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  1. C2ThaB81

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    Melvin upton is making over $15 mil a season?! What is this? The NBA?
     
  2. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    plaschke

    For Dodgers and Andrew Friedman, this is the time to step up, not stand pat
    by Bill Plaschke | Los Angeles Times — 88 minutes ago

    With baseball’s trade deadline looming, the backward buzz at Chavez Ravine on Tuesday was about whom the Dodger would not be acquiring before next week.

    They’re not going to be adding Clayton Kershaw. He sat gloomily on the dugout bench and said he had no idea when he might return from his back injury.

    They’re not going to be picking up Andre Ethier. He stood in front of his locker with an unsettled wince and said he just hoped to return from his leg injury sometime this season.

    The Dodgers are hurting. And they are winning. They are fighting through the pain by playing their best team baseball in several years, nearly everyone unselfishly contributing, feisty at the plate, focused in the field, winning 16 of 24 games since Kershaw last pitched and moving to within a whisper of the first-place San Francisco Giants.

    “It’s been so fun to watch,” said Kershaw. “Makes me really want to be part of it, just the way these guys are playing. It’s a great team, it really is . . . one of the closest teams that I have been a part of.”

    It’s a team that has played hard enough to deserve a chance to keep playing in October, a team that has outworked all reasonable expectations to climb out of the smoldering injury wreckage and into legitimate championship contention.

    With two months left in the season, the Dodgers don’t need to shrink, they need to grow. They don’t need to fold, they need to expand. They don’t need to use their injuries as an excuse, they need to use their healthy play as an inspiration.

    Instead of giving Andrew Friedman a license to pass on the Aug. 1 trade deadline, the Kershaw and Ethier ruminations should instead compel him to move even bigger.

    They need help. Get them help. They need a starting pitcher and a right-handed hitting outfielder. Find them somewhere.

    Kershaw and Ethier will both probably return before the end of the year. If the roster is right, they could literally put this team over the top. If the roster is still depleted, it will probably be too late.

    If Friedman makes big moves this week, he’ll be rewarding a versatile clubhouse he created to play in this manner. If Friedman gives up now, he’ll lose that clubhouse.

    “I know Andrew, Farhan Zaidi and all the guys upstairs are canvassing every type of opportunity we have,” Kershaw said. “And it’s a weird trade market this year; just from my perspective, I’m not sure. There is not a lot out there and what is out there costs a whole lot. So we’ll see. But our team is playing really well right now. I don’t know if we need it but it would always be nice.”

    In veteran baseball parlance, “always be nice” is loosely translated as “absolutely necessary.’’

    To punt on this summer is to punt on potential last-chance great seasons from Kenley Jansen and Justin Turner. Both men will be free agents this winter, and both are having the richest of contract years. Before Tuesday’s 3-2 victory over the Tampa Bay Rays, Jansen led all National League relievers with a WHIP of 0.69 while Turner was among the league’s hottest players with 15 homers and 42 RBIs in the last two months.

    Giving up on this season also means giving up on rookie-of-the-year favorite Corey Seager’s terrific year, a hot second half by Howie Kendrick, and a bounce-back stretch from Adrian Gonzalez. Not to mention, the Dodgers bullpen led the league with a .198 batting average against before Tuesday, and how often does that happen?

    “The players in this clubhouse have the utmost confidence in our front office to do whatever it takes to push this team to the next level,” catcher A.J. Ellis said.

    Adding an impact player at the trading deadline — something Friedman failed to do last year, ultimately leading to another early playoff exit — is a bigger issue in this clubhouse than it was in the past.

    Most of the players on this team actually like each other. They play hard for each other. They quietly feel that if given a chance, they could actually play deep into autumn.

    Much of this comes from the emerging leadership of Manager Dave Roberts. But some of it comes from the realization that without Kershaw and last year’s second ace Zack Greinke, they have to play more focused just to survive.

    “Every night, it’s a fight, and we’ve embraced that fight,” Ellis said.

    It is a fight worth embracing. It is a fight that Friedman needs to fight with them.

    Kershaw is right, there’s a strange group of available players, led by Chicago White Sox clubhouse seamstress Chris Sale. There’s Oakland’s struggling Sonny Gray and blistered Rich Hill. Then there’s Chris Archer, a former phenom who faced the Dodgers on Tuesday and, in seven resilient innings, allowed three runs, one earned, and four hits with eight strikeouts and no walks.

    There are no easy answers here. But Friedman cannot be afraid to make tough decisions to find those answers. Those decisions could come with names like Julio Urias, Jose De Leon, Joc Pederson and Yasiel Puig. For an organization mired in a 27-year World Series championship drought, the future is the next three months.

    “This team is hungry to keep playing,” Ellis said. “The trading deadline is always a good time for the front office to target areas to push us over the top. We’re excited to see how this one turns out.”

    That pushing time is now.
     
  3. LAdiablo

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    excellent article and great points
    guys like toles and and wilson combined with whoever we hopefully get could be really exciting for LA
    we have potential for sure
     
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    Lets go cheap, raid the A's.
    They have plenty of middle of the road veterans who they wont be resigning and who are blocking their prospects.
    Lets give them some more prospects that are 2 to 3 years out. Giving their current batch of kids a chance to show what they are made of as well as restocking their farm system.
    SP Rich Hill, C Stephen Vogt, RF Josh Reddick 1B Danny Valencia and relievers Sean Doolittle, Ryan Dull.
    They are really thin when it comes to OF prospects.
    So they get Verdugo, Bellinger, Yusniel Diaz, SVS for the OF.
    Austin Barnes, Willie Calhoun in the IF.
    And Walker Buerhle, Chase De Jong, Ross Stripling for pitching.

    That would project a significant upgrade for our team.
    Even if we have to give up a bit better prospects. It still would leave our top guys intact.

    2B: Utley/Kendrick
    RF: Reddick/Puig
    SS: Seager/Culberson
    3B: Turner/Valencia
    1B: Gonzales/Valencia
    LF: Kendrick/Trayce
    C : Grandal/Vogt
    CF: Toles/Joc
    DH: Valencia/Vogt

    Bench: Vogt, Valencia, Puig, Trayce, Joc, Culberson (Ethier as a deep backup on the DL)
    Starters: Kershaw, Hill, Maeda, McCarthy, Kazmir (Norris, Ryu, Wood, Anderson, Urias, JDL as backup starters)
    Relievers: Jansen, Blanton, Baez, Doolitle, Dull, Liberatore (Howell, Avilan, Coleman as backup relievers)

    Valencia serves as good insurance if we lose JT to FA. As well as some good hitting and power when we need a DH.
    He is versatile and can play in LF as well.
    Vogt is a former TB player so the FO will like him, and he was a recent all star.
    The two relievers are in the low 2 ERA, and old Rich Hill is pitching better than when he was young the past couple seasons.
    Would give us a deep and powerful bench for pinch hitting.
    Incredibly deep pitching staff that could weather any injury situation.
     
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    Fuck Plaschke, then he'll write another article how stupid it was to empty the farm for overvalued players and cite the Royals as an example. Dude changes his opinions with the wind.
     
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    Simply reading Plaschke's name is enough to negatively affect my happiness.
     
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    Yeah Plaschke is corny AF
     
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    It's funny how he mentions needing to go all in to complement Seager, when Seager is a guy who wouldve been traded before to go all in.

    And not saying we shouldn't go big. Just saying, it's very simplistic to say "go all in!" When you need the context of what's available, at what cost, and what type of hits your minor league system can sustain
     
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    That article is garbage. Kershaw said it himself, the prices are prohibitive for what is out there. If the right move is available, they will make it. If a player doesn't like that the Dodgers refused to send their top 5 prospects for one player, they can GTFO for all that I care. Probably some guy pissed they didn't trade the kid that is coming up behind him to take their position in a year or two.
     
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    FYI, Plaschke advocated trading Seager and Urias for David Price a few years ago:


    http://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/la-sp-dodgers-plaschke-20140801-column.html

    From the article:

    For the first time in eight or nine years, we think some of the prospects we've got are not only big league players, but everyday players and even, at one point in time, star players," said Colletti.

    Maybe. Who knows? But until they reach the major leagues, they are only question marks. A guy like Price is already an exclamation point.

    One of the prized young Dodgers, center fielder Joc Pederson, is in triple-A. The others are further below, shortstop Corey Seager at double-A and pitcher Julio Urias in Class-A. It turns out the real winners Thursday were Albuquerque, Chattanooga and Rancho Cucamonga. Now those teams are built for October. If only the minor leagues had an October.
     
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    Lol the Plaschke hate remains strong
    All I hear him saying is the team is building momentum and its worth a roll of the dice at this point
    The team is talking about Urias in the mix and not him
    Watching the offense starting to gel and knowing guys like Turner and Jansen are in contract years...
    The truth is the team could be in an awesome position to go deep w the right tweaks and a few nice surprises
    Don't let the hatred of the messenger cloud that fact
    If we can flip Urias for Sale I do that in a heartbeat personally
    Another bat would be nice but I think Toles has a chance to be a part of something special too
    The team is looking interesting and if you don't take a shot now then when?
    Not pushing to empty the farm system at all
     
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    Make no mistake about it, CK has seen this act before, has the pull and he's warning them to lose their pen protectors and do something, or else, in the most gentlemanly way possible since that's the kind of guy he is. Imagine if he were LeBron or Kobe '07 or Magic Johnson fof that matter how that would sound?

    Good on him for trying.. Dumbfuck Nerds are playing with fire.
     
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    He always says that every year. Every FUCKING YEAR. Trade every prospect you have for the hot guy of the moment (be it Price or Sale). If Plaschke was the GM we would be the Angels or the Phillies of last year. No farm system to speak of and no hope in sight.

    Just imagine this team without Seager right now.
     
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    Nah, some material hungry MLBTV head just reported such while also reporting that Sale wasn't even available.
    And he's probably wrong on both accounts.
     
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    I thought that he did write some good, complimentary things about the team...in a bb world that seems to dilute anything the LAD do compared to other teams, it was refreshing to read the truth, for once, I thought. What they are doing right now, in the non Kershaw era. I guess it is, is a fan source of pride. Should be.
    All the other shit about who to/ not to trade for whoever is just a mystery jumble, just like it always is...except for the extra perceptive few. Those in the know;)...
    Seems like there is some nice possibilities out there though. Yup.
     
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    ...and no one ever will. Murray was the Chicky-baby of the LAT and the imagery he created, along with the emotions he stirred were second to none, although Downey did have some chops. We were lucky to have him, like almost on the same level as Vin, Chick and Bob.

    *Edit.... There are books out there of his writings and I suggest you guys check them out.
     
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    Jay Bruce's career line against SFG - .310/.371/.533 in 206 plate appearances
    It appears as though Jay Bruce is a Giant killer
     
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    (cont.)

    Bruce's line @ ATT Park - .322/.386/.556, 102 plate appearances
     
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    Rich hill
    Danny valencia
    Josh reddick
    Sean doolittle

    All the help we need this year.
    Sets us up for next year.
    Wont cost us the better part of the farm.
     
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    not sure why anyone would compare anyone to jim murray
    those are impossible shoes to fill
    the only time i read plaschke is when its posted here
    not a big fan, but as with this article, he can be pretty close to the truth
    does anyone think there isn't some good chemistry on this team?
    or that we need a few pieces to see what the team is made of?
     
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