DODGERS The KERSHAW Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by irish, Nov 7, 2014.

  1. LASports96

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    Fuck a minor league start

    Next start should be for the Dodgers (and not OKC Dodgers)
     
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    as long as the team is winning i see them taking their time
     
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    Rushing him one iota, at the point in time, after all this, with what should be coming up for us, is asking for a disaster.
    Fucking flat out stupid.
    And fuck it if he doesn't like it...he's not paying himself, last I heard.
    Gotta go easy here...be smart, not be impatient idiots and give in to frustrations.
    Not now.
     
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  4. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    totally agree
    and roberts letting kershaw "talking him into" one rehab start, anything, is ridiculous
    don't care what "he" wants
    you, as manager, have to do what's best for him (and the team) for the long haul
    it's great if everyone likes you
    but you have to be able to be the "boss" sometimes
    it's your job
    i, like everyone here, want kershaw back asap
    but it's not worth [potentially] risking the rest of his career to get him back sooner
     
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    Yeah...and shades of DBB if he does that.
    The one player that leaps to mind, who got away with never sitting down, and wasn't a pitcher, mind you, was Gena Martin.
     
  6. carolinabluedodger

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    5 gets you 20 he ain't callin' the shots here...
     
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    If we can't hit, it doesn't matter who's pitching.

    We were foolish to trust Puig, Van Slyke and Kike Hernandez, among others. We are a useless team against LHP.

    Joc + Grandal....Their inconsistency can eff off.
     
  8. doyerfan

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    Kershaw throwing a rehab game this weekend in Rancho
     
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    Tell us the game!!! I don't want to buy tickets for the whole weekend!!! LOL
     
  10. irish

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    When could we see Clayton Kershaw again?
    by Doug Padilla | ESPN Staff Writer — 2 hours ago

    LOS ANGELES – Outside of trying to calculate when the Los Angeles Dodgers might clinch their fourth consecutive division title, the other magic number that will prove vital is figuring out how many days until Clayton Kershaw returns.

    The staff ace is on his way back after throwing two innings in a simulated game earlier this week, but more still needs to happen before he takes his rightful place atop the Dodger Stadium mound.

    Before deciding to have their ace pitch in Single-A this weekend, the Dodgers hinted at a Kershaw return as early as the upcoming homestand, but that scenario always seemed overly optimistic at best and risky at worst. When a pitcher misses two months with a back injury, the normal course of events wouldn't have him returning to the majors after throwing just two simulated innings.

    The Dodgers have stayed relatively quiet when it has come to Kershaw’s status, outside of a blip when manager Dave Roberts dared to say that surgery wasn’t out of the question if he was being completely honest. That type of honesty, though, only maxed out the panic meter in Los Angeles.

    So subsequent Kershaw news has been released at a trickle. Water isn’t the only thing they are rationing in Southern California.
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    When could we see the NL’s best pitcher on the mound for the Dodgers again?

    Taking into account the front office’s tendencies, Kershaw’s own competitiveness, and the Dodgers’ need for starting pitching, a possible timetable could go as follows:

    SUNDAY OR MONDAY:
    Kershaw will pitch in at least one minor-league game with the first coming at Class A Rancho Cucamonga this weekend. The regular seasons in the three top levels of the minor leagues end Monday, so time is of the essence. Any Dodgers affiliate would like nothing better than to close out its season with a visit from a three-time Cy Young Award winner, but Kershaw’s objective won't be to add to the promotion schedule -- he will be trying to build up his pitch count in an outing to 60, while throwing four or five innings.

    SEPT. 10 OR 11: There will be a decision to be made the second weekend of the month. Do the Dodgers go with one more minor-league outing for Kershaw, possibly with Rancho Cucamonga or Triple-A Oklahoma City, both of which would be in the playoffs at that time? Or do they trust Kershaw for a six-inning outing at Miami against the Marlins? Kershaw has talked about enjoying his time under manager Don Mattingly, but he should still have no qualms about hurting Mattingly’s wild-card chances with a strong outing at Marlins Park.

    SEPT. 12: If the Dodgers are intent on taking it a little slower with Kershaw’s return, there is a chance one of baseball’s biggest names could make his major-league return on one of baseball’s biggest stages. The Dodgers open a three-game series at Yankee Stadium on Sept. 12, and what a spectacle it would be if Kershaw pitched in the series. The left-hander has never pitched in Yankee Stadium, a little detail that would heighten the experience even more – especially if the Yankees can keep their own playoff hopes afloat this long. Nothing like announcing your presence with a return in New York.

    SEPT. 13-OCT. 2: Simple math says that if Kershaw returns to the major leagues on Sept. 10 or 11, he could make four more regular-season starts to fine-tune his stuff for a potential postseason run. If his return is held off until Sept. 12 or later, then three more regular-season appearances are likely. Either way, it should give him enough time to work through any issues that would have arisen from a long layoff, assuming those issues are mechanical in nature and not physical. A Sept. 10 or 11 return also would line Kershaw up for potentially two outings against San Francisco down the stretch. If he returns on Sept. 12, he likely would not face the Giants during the stretch run.

    OCT. 5: So why would the Dodgers even consider a Sept. 12 return for Kershaw if he would miss the Giants twice and make three, instead of four, regular-season appearances? One reason could be that it would line up the left-hander to pitch in a potential NL wild-card game on Oct. 5 if the Dodgers don't win the NL West. Even if the Dodgers do win the division, Kershaw would be afforded a longer rest heading into the first division series game with a Sept. 12 return, although he would have one less regular-season start to prepare himself.

    All of this is speculative, of course, and dependent on how Kershaw’s back responds until his next outing.

    Yes, the Dodgers have shown they can win games without their staff ace -- they are now 33-32 without Kershaw (they were 41-36 with him). But getting Kershaw back not only strengthens the roster, it gives them an ace to lean on in the playoffs and could help the bullpen in September if the left-hander can give the team some length in his last couple of starts.

    While the wins and losses will be tracked closely down the stretch, so will the days until Kershaw might pitch in a Dodgers uniform again.
     
  11. irish

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    ^ kersh pitching for rancho or okc in the playoffs would be epic
    imagine the gut check for opposing hitters lol
     
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    I have tickets to two of those Dodgers Yankees games so that would be cool
     
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    Kershaw in the playoffs?

    Dude, you know they're gonna rock him.
     
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    kersh on his rehab outing...

     
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    There are times you have to look beyond the adrenilin of a pitchter eager to come back.

    Id rather he be fresh and rested and ready for the games that really count.
     
  16. irish

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    and healthy for the long haul
     
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    You don't consider 9 games left against the Gnats as games that really count?? Stretch run here, they all count, the guy needs to build stamina and the minor league season is almost over so it has to be the majors. Of course you treat his appearances as ST games with respect to pitch count but he has to pitch.
     
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    It's all good unless it's a Cardinal affiliate.
     
  19. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    there are milb playoff games he can pitch
    does no one any good if he comes back too soon and has a setback
     
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    We don't know it yet but he could be put on a pitch count and that isn't happening in a playoff game. He knows his body and yes he's anxious from all reports he's fine. He even threw some more after his start and still felt fine.
     
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    i think you're overestimating the importance of minor league playoff games
     

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