DODGERS NEWS/RUMORS Thread

Counterpoint: it might be due diligence to see how he performs for a few months without Alex Cora before throwing $400 million at him.

 

...and that's your biggest error. You were thinking like a fan and GuGG's thinks like a company that invests in actuarial tables.

... and while you're at it think about this: GuGG's got lucky, again, with all the Astros cheating stuff. Not only did they have their "Dream season" in '17 after ingesting every last dollar of revenue they could by hosting the absolute MAX amount of home games, now, the fans have been galvanized by empathy and hate so the narrative has shifted away from resenting their greed and they're getting way more of a pass. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Kasten was high 5'ing Boehly the morning the scandal broke since it basically ensured maintaining next season's attendance numbers.

Bottom line: They don't have to do a fucking thing to the roster that costs any significant money.

BTW, I was wondering something..... Where exactly is the payroll sitting at this moment in relation to the tax line?

 

Not like the nay sayers have a leg to stand..on, eh? Damn unjustified pessimism !
Only thing wrong with the cockeyed optimist thing...you can't see shit.
Robots is like an AA 12 step program...you think you've got it beat, then you fall off the wagon.
Dave is the Dodger fan's wagon...he'll find a way.
But hey, still ridin' the signing high Alex Wood . It causes my heart to saw like a hawk, man.
Oh, and Jimmy Nelson, the Edgar Bergen guy...

 

No extension according to this article. Greeeeeeed yes
https://apple.news/AFtyLzjRAQLaOpOyyVkTqhQ

 

Aliens are real and they abducted my sister.

Baby Jesus Christ this is some want to hate bullshit. You just want to hate. You have a right to do so but only a wants to hate guy would attempt to convert insanity to reason. Come on man. Guggs didn't luck out with 2017. They lost the series. No luck there.

GuGGs isn't tapping your phone and siphoning your gas. It's not a guggerment cover up.

 

That def could impact the return for the Sox as well. Some teams will agree to let you negotiate if it means they are rewarded for it. I would not be shocked though if the Dodgers also were hesitant to go beyond the 10 years that the Sox are offering. Betts is a hell of an athlete, but there are definite dangers to him long term. Speed being a major attribute to your game, always worries me. Though a good thing about Mookie is he may be able to go to the IF when he loses a step.

 

I don't believe that due to what has come out in recent days about him willing to look at an extension, just not being anywhere close on numbers with the Sox. He helps the union if he gets a big contract, whether it be free agency or signing an extension.

 

That is nothing but yesterdays assumptions. No news there. If he can set the market early he the union and his pocketbook will be sending him dick picks and begging for love.

 

The rumors this morning:

• The Dodgers are believed to be solely out in front on Betts now as the Red Sox have focused in on the Dodgers system.

• The Padres are still in, but word is their negotiations have stagnated and any deal would require Wil Myers going to the Red Sox.

• There are believed to be multiple standing offers at this point from the Padres and Dodgers. The Padres has been pretty well understood that it will be some package around Manny Margot/Josh Naylor, Joey Lucchesi/Cal Quantrill, Luis Campusano and Wil Myers. Campusano has big upside and Naylor could be a good bat, but everyone else is pretty meh. Naylor was expectedly awful in the field last year which showed many that his future is that of a DH. Campusano has a lot of work to do still defensively, which makes his trajectory at the catching position still a bit wonky, but his bat is considered pretty special for the position. The Dodgers supposed offers are all over the map and people do not seem to have a good grasp on that part yet. You will hear something like Verdugo and lower prospects, then Gammons chimes in with "the Dodgers will need to part with top prospects 3-6", then it will be Pederson, Taylor and Stripling or some shit. My guess is that there are 6+ potentially acceptable offers out there with all sorts of different scenarios. This is where the Dodgers are in a stronger position than the Padres as they have players WITH big league success already that they can send back, but if the Red Sox pivot to just the best prospect, the Pads will be back in front.

• One thing that seems to be certain is that at least one Dodgers OF'er will be included if a deal were to happen, whether it be Verdugo, Pederson, Pollock, Hernandez or Taylor.

• There is belief that there are some other teams still kicking around, but internal belief is that the Dodgers packages will be hard to beat. The D'Backs were in on Betts up to the last couple of days, but them trading for Marte has some believing that they are now out on Betts.

• As I said last night, one belief on the hold up is that the Dodgers internal brass can not come together on what is an acceptable deal and that was reiterated this morning. Some want Betts, some want Betts AND Price.

 

Bowden said the Dodgers are currently more focused on Betts, Lindor and Arenado right now, but could pivot to Kris Bryant if nothing works out on that front. All speculatory, but interesting if true if they are still pursuing a Lindor trade as well as potentially in the hunt for Arenado.

 

Arenado is not happening. Even speculating Arenado being traded to the Dodgers ruins the strength of the rest of the speculation.

I'll take any of them.

 

Yeah, I have been saying the same thing, but I was thinking of something when looking over the Rockies payroll. With the talk about interest in Price, I wonder if the Dodgers would consider doing something like taking on Desmond to coax the Rockies into dealing with us for Arenado. He still has 2 years left at a $14M AAV, but only owed $8M in 21 and $2M in 22. Dodgers could flip him at the end of the year or at the deadline and eat most of the contract while pawning him off on a lower payroll franchise where AAV does not matter.

 

But it still affects his value. For example, he asked for 12/$420. If he's a 5 WAR player, he's not close to worth that. If he's a 10 WAR player, he is definitely worth that.

 

Puig is supposedly getting NO interest on the open market. His reputation has been shot from the sounds of it as none of his former teams apparently have good things to say about him. The Asian market is also not interested as he supposedly did something that upset them(no idea what). This is crazy to think, but we may have seen the end of the Wild Horse in pro ball.

 

I guess those letters of recommendation from Greinke didn't help.

 

Puig was a good player for longer than the MSM gives him credit for, but he was every bit of the idiot he was made out to be.