MLB 2020-2021 OFF-SEASON NEWS AND RUMORS

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  1. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    Its not my money.
    If the money guys want to have an all star squad to keep winning rings they will spend the money since winning prints you more and more
    If he is available at a prospect discount because the Indians waited and lost leverage then you gotta be in on that deal.

    RF: Mookie
    SS: Seager
    2B: Lindor
    3B: Turner
    1B: Bellinger
    DH: Muncy
    CF: Joc/Taylor
    C : Smith/Barnes
    LF: Pollock/Kike

    Guggs can afford it.
    If not Googs will buy the team.
     
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  2. ColoradoKidWitGame

    ColoradoKidWitGame DSP Legend Administrator

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    Lux and Verdugo are not the same in prospect terms and should not be compared to one another. Verdugo's ceiling is somewhat limited as he was never able to put together a full strong season in MiLB while also having his power numbers never really coming to the table. While Verdugo was a very good prospect and his contact oriented skillset was the perfect Ying to the Dodgers swing and miss Yang, he was still a mid top 100 prospect that was slowly trending the wrong way. Lux on the other hand is considered one of the top prospects in baseball and has considerable star power. Last year was too early for him to be up and this year was a mess as COVID legit fucked him up. He was still the #2 prospect in baseball only behind arguably the best hitting prospect we have seen in decades. You do not trade that for a player that you are likely not going to retain beyond this season. If the Dodgers really do plan to re-sign Lindor, Bellinger, Seager and Buehler, then more power to them, but that has almost no chance of happening.
     
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  3. Fall Winslow

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    Seager absolutely should move to 3B if it's to make room for Lindor. Lindor's just better defensively, so that'd be one way to improve the team. I'm hoping AF won't react unreasonably to the year that Seager had because the fella was shopped just last offseason. Definitely appreciate what he did and his commitment to returning to form, but was that enough to pass on upgrading the defense up the middle? Also, given his history, not certain that Seager's gonna stay healthy, so yeah, like you said they could sell a move to 3B as a way to protect his long term interest. If not, just play Lindor @ 2B

    As for the money, said it before already, but I'd let it play itself out if I'm the FO. Winning big is fun. If guys want to leave winning, great weather, a dynasty....leave. That's one way to weed out the guys who really care about being Dodgers and winning big. A culture of taking less has already been established by Kersh the 1st time around and likely even in his 2nd stab at free agency..also by JT in his last dip into FA. Even Mookie's deal was a major commitment from the player..no opt out clause to go back into free agency and rake in more $ in a few years. If Lindor says, " I want Dodgers "..Guggs needs to be creative and courageous and just make it happen. There's no other place in the NL that Lindor should want to play
     
  4. ColoradoKidWitGame

    ColoradoKidWitGame DSP Legend Administrator

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    The Mets are going to be in on him, but the Giants are going to as well. They should not be discounted by any means and we have known for years that their owners are desperate. There is just no way that he could come super cheap. Also if he is pretty cheap, remember that there is another team that will very much be in on him and that is the Padres. They tried last year as they have the prospects to make such a move without destroying their farm. If we get in on the Lindor sweepstakes, so will the Padres if for no other reason to run up the cost. Like you said, Turner is the likely endgame here.
     
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    Heyman saying he thinks LAD will still make a run at Lindor could be Lindor's reps telling Heyman, " hey..if we have to go to the NL, we like the Dodgers ". And if that's the case, it's malpractice to not pursue to some degree

    Stuff happens all the time. IIRC, we knew pretty early on that Stanton wanted Dodgers
     
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    I wasn't comparing their numbers head to head, but Verdugo was the big prospect at the time, and now it's Lux.
    Just timing, that's all.
    If that's the way it plays out at any given time to get any given player...a super star...then so be it.
    If the Padres landed him, and went on to dethrone us, and Lindor is the catalyst, like Betts was for us, Lux, should he be the stumbling block, is gonna look like an albatross compared to Lindor.
    Just as bad would be the Giants, but they don't have Tatis and Manny around him like SD would.
    Shit, it's all conjecture anyway.
     
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    Bullet dodged.
     
  8. doyerfan

    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

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    Mattingly won manager of the year

    never forget that loser (who won ONE playoff series) quit the Dodgers because it was “too much drama” only for the team to immediately: go to NLCS, followed by 3 pennants (and a World Series) in 4 years, multiple elite regular seasons, and very limited actual player or team drama that spilled out to the public. A 5 year run that could arguably be the best in team history, all after he left cause of “too much drama” lol
     
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  9. BlueMouse

    BlueMouse 2020 World Champions

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    I thought he was fired?
     
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    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

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    eh I guess it depends how you see it, since it was a “mutual decision”, but given that I recall the Dodgers actually floating an extension to him, and then some reports afterwards that “Mattingly seems happier away from the Dodgers”,... maybe quit is too hard but he definitely didn’t wanna stick around

    good for him winning an award after starting a COVID outbreak and having his first winning season since he’s left the Dodgers. But, to me, that Dodgers managerial position was one of the top positions in the game. You don’t let that go if you wanna win, and well, I’m glad he didn’t
     
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    Iirc he quit right before the hammer came down
     
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    darth550 Baba Yaga

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    uh huh....

    Nice to see CK rested to the point he can finally be effective in the playoffs too. DBB and Torre worked him to death, and $1.2MM bonuses...
     
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    Betts / Seager is better than Machado / Tatis. They already have him. Nevermind Bellinger and everyone else. Lindor is just cheating
     
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    That's the spirit of a dynasty. Yankees win 2 WS titles and then add Roger Clemens and David Justice. Patriots win 2 Super Bowls and then add Corey Dillon and Randy Moss. Cowboys win 2 Super Bowls and then add Deion Sanders and Larry Allen. Bulls win 3 titles and then add Dennis Rodman and Toni Kukoc. Warriors win a title and a record 73 games the next year..then add Kevin Durant. Dynasties are supposed to be unapologetic domination

    In a perfect world, you beat the league into the ground until they start coming up with rules to deter you. NBA banned zone defenses in 1947....then they decided to adopt the zone defense to stop Kobe/Shaq. As a result, 15+ years later everybody's shooting 3-pointers and skilled foreign players finally have a place in the league. When MLB convenes for CBA talks and they go out of their way to fight against Dodgers' domination..in the words of Rambo, " mission accomplished "
     
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    Lol.
    Yeah, I guess a team doesn't want to be too good...it ain't fair...after the 32 year wait, we definitely need to stand pat and let others get better.
    Guess we'll see how it all plays out if SD gets him.
     
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  16. ColoradoKidWitGame

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    The league already came down on the club. They said the team needed to drastically reduce payroll or their would be massive penalties. Acquiring Lindor and then signing him long term would put the club right back into that scenario.

    We aren't the Steinbrenner Yankees and everyone on here clamoring that we need to be are going to be REALLY pissed off then this offseason and the years to ahead. The team lost A TON of money this year. Ownership went on TV and said that this season dug the club into a financial hole that will take them YEARS to climb out of. They aren't spending money this season and the sooner everyone sees that, the sooner we can move on. That is not the M.O. of a Friedman or Kasten run team to spend, spend, spend either. It was done years ago to keep the team competitive, but they from the start said the goal was to build from within and use funds to retain their stars. Betts was the golden carrot, to expect the club to start doing that every year is not going to lead anyone here to be at all satisfied.
     
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    We really don’t need Lindor. We need to shore up our BP, especially the closer role. You can never have too much pitching.
     
  18. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    the team made tons of money this year
     
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    Yes. The arms out there right now could help build a dangerous bullpen for a fraction of what it would normally cost. That is our biggest hole going into next season and it would be nice to see 3 solid arms added to a point where Kenley is the only arm in the pen that we need to worry about.
     
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    How? MLB had to restructure TV deals to accommodate the shortened season, there was no gate, no food and beverage money. Contracts were reduced, but on average clubs lost over $100M according to reports. The Dodgers just spent a fortune to get the park updated in preparation for an All Star game that didn't happen. The Dodgers kept their MiLB players and staff on longer than just about anyone. Just cause the team is rich doesn't mean they find ways to make money when shit hits the fan like it did.
     

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