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Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by irish, Apr 2, 2017.

  1. fsudog21

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    Wish the Rams had grabbed someone like McCarron. If Goff is injured they're fucked. Mannion is shit.
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    totally agree
    mccarron is a solid backup
    mannion to goff is what sweetan was to gabriel... mierda
     
  3. Fall Winslow

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    So it's 2019 1st round
    2020 1st round
    2020 3rd round
    2019 6th round
    from the Bears
    Plus the 23M in cap space by sending Mack out
     
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    Steelers just axed Landry Jones. Maybe they take a look?
     
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    Hope so. Mannion is awful and the other guys they had in camp (Perez and Allen) were worse.
     
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    Was kinda mad when the Saints landed Bridgewater to back up Brees
     
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    GREAT deal from that perspective. The Bears fans should be more pissed than the Raider fans!!!!!!! Mack is a franchise player but IF the Raiders draft even remotely well they are set up. In retrospect to rid themselves of the a large cap figure going into Vegas is a coup.
     
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    Most picks ever traded for a defensive player. Not quite the Dallas/Minnesota Herchel Walker deal, but being that it's a defensive player moving, close to it. Long term health of the team could be greatly effected if they draft well. 4 first round picks over the next 2 years. And this 2019 draft is loaded with defensive stars, like 3 or 4 from Clemson alone.

    Packers' fans are probably pissed..they had the ammo to get Mack and they were in on him, and then he lands in their division. Especially with McKenzie's Packer connections, but Chucky was at the helm, so. Bears' fans probably should be pissed, but they get a star, so they don't know it yet. You trade all that and you should be in line for 1st or 2nd place in the division and they still aren't.
     
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    6/141MM, with 90 guaranteed.
     
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    OK now I'm mad..Martavis Bryant's weak ass couldn't stay off the weeeeeeduh and is about to be suspended indefinitely by the league, has already been released. Chucky gave up a 3rd round pick for him. Now, this past draft wasn't a very strong one, but they could've flipped that pick into something in the 2019 draft or targeted another guy. Gotdamn what a waste.

    Fuck it all..sign Dez. Lol
     
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    A future HOFer and a defensive MVP in his prime for draft picks. I have faith that the same Raiders who drafted Kolton fucking Miller in round 1 this year and traded a 3rd round pick for a druggie who they later cut won't mess up the picks they received lol

    Such a joke. They'll be lucky to get someone half as good as Mack with the picks they received. Maybe Gruden can flip them for another QB.
     
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    Bottom line Davis is going to be raking in the dough when they get to Vegas so IMHO I don't think he gives a fuck like his dad sure did. Best illustration is his haircut!!
     
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    He doesn't even majority own them, he just gets to run everything. He takes in less than half of their profits.
     
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    Daddy's idea?
     
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    Definitely a complete waste of a 3rd round pick. Even if you look at it as an extra 3rd round pick because they picked it up in the trade w/the Cards, still sucks to have wasted that asset. Chucky put his trust in his buddy Mike Tomlin, that Bryant was on the right path, and Chucky paid for it. Was the talent worth the gamble? Probably, but after he fucks up yet again we have the right to be bitter about that shit. A true lotto ticket, but an expensive one. The 5th round pick for McCarron, though, is a drop in the bucket..it's the QB position..1 snap away from being the leader of the team. Easily worth it and every team should value backup QBs that way.

    Should probably relax on Kolton Miller. That's actually another part of the general hypocrisy I was talking about in regards to Belichick/Chucky. Patriots were targeting Miller with their 1st pick in the 1st round..ended up taking the Georgia OT ( who's not as good) instead because Miller was already gone..reportedly discussed trading up for Miller because they saw him as the replacement for Nate Solder at LT. The guy Belichick drafted ( Wynn) had already lost LT duties in NE before he was hurt for this season. They speak to Kolton Miller/Patriots some here -> https://theathletic.com/318444/2018...e-makeup-to-fill-patriots-gap-at-left-tackle/ Now, if Belichick takes Miller in the 1st round, nobody's appalled or anything of the sort just because it's Belichick making the pick.




    I'll be quick on the hyperbole there because if the RAIDERS just draft multiple guys that are as good as Bruce Irvin they'll be a solid unit moving forward with Guenther in command..starting with 1st round talents Key and Hurst this year. And I think we can both safely say that Bruce Irvin is solid, now a Top 100 player in the league. I think back to 2016, when the RAIDERS were making their 12-4 run and both Carr and Mack were playing at an MVP level. During this time, the questions about the team didn't have anything to do with the offense. All of the questions were surrounding the defense and if they could actually stop anybody..and that was with Mack playing light's out.

    Problem is..as valuable as pass rushers are, they outnumber the DBs that can hold up in coverage and tackle by a lot. And with the short passing game that so many teams use today, pass rush can be negated..look no further than the Super Bowl and how Philly's great pass rush eventually ended up on their heels and just trying to hold on with Brady picking them apart. And Brees and Foles ran up the numbers on the Vikings' vaunted pass rush as well. And these teams have multiple top notch pass rushers..not just 1 and a half like the RAIDERS did. Scheme and blitz efficiency can mask not having a single elite to good pass rusher on your team. What Guenther is doing with A-gap pressure, quickest path to the QB being right up the middle, it can work well enough against pocket QBs, pushing them out of the pocket and limiting where they can go with the football. Now, I'm not saying that there a bunch of guys like Mack out there, of course not. There's probably half a dozen that are close or on par with Mack, and then after that a dozen that are really good like Calais Campbell/Malik Jackson, and then a dozen that are solid like Irvin.

    Overall point being, you're going to find pass rush much easier than you're going to find cover ability, especially in today's game, and that's factored in at times..and it is going to be tougher to build a good defense if you sink that much cost into one guy. Look at Denver and how that defense fell apart after giving Von Miller that big contract. And even when they won the Super Bowl, Miller was the headliner, but they had arguably the best secondary in the league at that point as well, so it wasn't Miller carrying them. Now, did Mack deserve to be paid? Absolutely. And he did get paid..by a team that has a QB on a rookie contract and not a lot of other sunken cost. Mack deserved to be the highest paid player somewhere, but it wasn't likely going to be on any team that has a 20M+ per year QB. That just doesn't happen. And if somebody wants to argue that they should've picked Mack over Carr, that'd be a solid argument on caliber of player alone, but throw in that the RAIDERS can dump Carr after this season for a smallish cap penalty and it could've made some sense. But Chucky is a QB guy and Carr is very talented. But that's why I say Carr just has to work out now..shedding a hall of famer in Mack in favor of Carr just makes it even more imperative that he works out. And RAIDERS aren't just paying big for Carr, but also paying big for Carr's protection. However, none of this will matter if the RAIDERS don't start having better drafts, starting with this year..because Reggie McKenzie - big picture - has been trash as far as the draft goes. Just has. Although, he has been pretty good as far as free agency goes and they do get more cap flexibility with Mack gone, so maybe Reggie can do it again and go out and land 4 or 5 solid free agents to help next March? But certainly not going to try and talk you into staying a RAIDER fan, not that I could anyway. I mean, you gotta do what you gotta do.
     
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    Now, who's going to get Earl Thomas? Because he is one of the few DBs that can do it all
     
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    Leveon Bell still holding out as well
    Rams gave Gurley 40M guaranteed..Steelers offered Bell 10M Lol
     
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    Darnold the man in NY, ready or not. Smh
     
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    Jiminy Christmas, Falcons. Stuffed at the 1yd line on your opening drive
     
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    Saints D lookin like trash
     

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