DODGERS Daniel John Haren

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  1. carolinabluedodger

    carolinabluedodger DSP Legend

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    Prepare yourselves. Haren will be in Blue for 2015.

    His excellent effort last night gave him 150 IP (and another quarter million dollars) on the season. He should easily see 6 more starts (unless Donnie juggles the rotation again, a couple of times) and he's getting about 5.2 innings per start which projects to be 34 more innings on the year, thus vesting his option at 180 IP. With the current construction of the rotation I believe spot starts by other pitchers would be used in the place of Correia rather than Haren so I think it's likely he gets all his chances.

    With his incentives (he also made another quarter mill for his 24th start) he should make another 2 million unless he goes tits up, making his total contract about 12.5 million this year. If all of this holds true and his option vests, he gets the same incentive package in his contract next year.

    So....we've got that to look forward to...

    :eek:
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    in a weird way, kind of a win-win
    if he pitches well, he'll earn the vesting option
    if not, he doesn't get there*









    *then again, you can never gauge/rely on what donnie dumbfuck might do...
    sit the hot bat for a righty/lefty matchup, have one of our best hitters bunt, put out winning lineups...
    having dbb as manager makes me feel somewhere between :whew: and :suicide:
     
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    Well that's what the incentives are for. If he makes it to 180 IPs pitched, then he earned his money I guess.

    As shitty as he's been, we're getting a real lesson on how much starting pitching depth matters, especially with Coletti's reluctance to bring up the young pups in the farm
     
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    He won't get to 180 IP's... and I'll be livid if he does
     
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    I'm OK with him coming back. He's not going to have a worse year than this and should regress to his mean. I like Haren.
     
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    I'm sure that's what they said last year and yet he's been worse this year... do not want back, especially not at $10M
     
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    This thread ruined my day
     
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    No way the Dodgers can let him get to 180. When Ryu comes back, it is:
    Kershaw
    Greinke
    Ryu
    Hernandez
    Haren
    Have Correia and whoever comes up for Sept 1 call ups start skipping Haren's starts.
     
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    A fifth starter with a winning record. He's a'ight.
     
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    record is irrelevant
     
  11. carolinabluedodger

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    He hasn't been much worse than last year, walks a little higher, K's a little lower. It shows up in his FIP and WHIP, but other than that he's the same as last year. He's exactly what he is, a 5th starter-it wouldn't bother me to have him back unless he's blocking a young arm with a legitimate chance to succeed.

    It's kind of funny to me that the attitudes expressed here seem to expect our 5th starter to be the second coming of Nolan Ryan or something. A fifth starter on ANY ballclub is by definition a TURD. Expecting a turd to not stink defies logic.
     
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    Prepare to be livid.
     
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    it won't happen
     
  14. carolinabluedodger

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    I'm going to amend my statement above. The exception is when a club has a starter they feel is ready to begin a career but with little expectation of him rising above the level of #3 starter. They throw him in the fire as the 5th guy and sometimes they adjust and handle it and sometimes they don't. These guys are not necessarily turds, they just don't have 'star' potential.
     
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    We could have Tim Lincecum as our #3 starter for about $17.5M.....anyone?!?!

    HAHAHAHA.....:laff::laff::laff::laff:
     
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    Agreed. Look at the Tin Man.
    :duck:
     
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    Tin Man > Haren
     
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    lastatman DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

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    Haren gets a bad rap, indeed. 12 wins (with possibly 2-3 more) out of your #5 starter is not a bad deal.

    That said, I believe he'll regress further next year, so I'm really hoping he doesn't hit the innings bogie.
     
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    Dude ain't even pitching and your still bitching...haven't heard much chinchilla hate as of late...
     
  20. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    agreed
    career era of 3.77 -- 4.17 this year, pitching half his games in a pitcher's park

    so yeah...
    hit the road dan
    don't ya come back no more, no more, no more, no more...

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