DODGERS Grade the Nerds

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Grade the Nerds

Poll closed Nov 5, 2016.
  1. A

    6 vote(s)
    16.2%
  2. B

    16 vote(s)
    43.2%
  3. C

    3 vote(s)
    8.1%
  4. D

    5 vote(s)
    13.5%
  5. F

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    18.9%
  1. Gebbeth

    Gebbeth DSP Legend

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    And lose in a 1 game playoff? Will you be laughing then?
     
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    With Kersh on the hill? Nah son.
     
  3. Gebbeth

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    He might want a trade by then.
     
  4. IBleedBlue15

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    You're too much haha.
     
  5. irish

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    in 2019? :duck:

    but seriously
    i hope they prove us naysayers wrong
    i just don't believe they will :sulk:
    at least not with how the roster is currently constructed
     
  6. IBleedBlue15

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    I think we need to give some of our guys credit and accountability. Yaz, Puig, and Joc rebounding makes it a dynamic offense. I still think they'll improve the staff and pen.
     
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    of those three you mention, i have the most faith in grandal
    hard to completely retool a guy like joc's swing so quickly without working on it all winter (which we can only hope he did)
    and i just think puig lacks the maturity/unselfishness/commitment to want to work on getting better
     
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  8. rube

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    Joc can hit .250 but with a near .400 obp and slam 30 hr playing good d in center and I'll be OK with his production.
     
  9. irish

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    ok?
    i'd be ecstatic
     
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  10. CapnTreee

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    knowing that we still made it with a weaker team? So we can lose in the wildcard playoff game?
     
  11. IBleedBlue15

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    That "weak" team strategy seemed to work pretty well for the Giants. It's baseball. Anything can happen. Just get to the playoffs and make less mistakes than the other team.
     
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    I just read that The Rays specifically don't want to deal with Friedman and a lot of other FO's consider the nerds to be a pain in the ass as well. They are being skewered alive by The Times on a daily basis. Maybe the wheels are coming off? I'm starting to feel the same way I used to about McCourt and how he wrongly fucked with a public trust.
     
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    Yeah...I kind of just got that feeling...who the fuck wants to get screwed by the "wunderkind" reputation boys...they'd just rather deal with someone else. Nobody wants to be part of the debris left behind as a result of their "brilliance".
    As long as the come up with good Goebbels propaganda once in awhile like Kasten's recent statement about criticism ( like they really give a shit), and people slurp it all up as they are...they're right on point.
    Exactly what they did before, and still are....
     
  14. rube

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    Its sports, your job is to sit there and watch the game, buy food and drink and be entertained.
    That something is called an RBI and if they choose to show the games on TV is not your call.
    Nor is it your call what the ownership decides to do in terms of player personnel.
    As a fan of a team its our job to be entertained and to root root root for our home team.
    Its your job to go to the game, buy tickets, and talk about the game with your buddies.
    Overdemanding fans are the #1 cause for failure within sports teams.
    It poisons the media and poisons the decision making in the front office and poisons the players.
    If it bothers you that the players make a ton of money, then you a hater.
    If it bothers you that the owners make a ton of money, then you a hater.
    If it bothers you that the front office spends too much, then you a hater.
    If it bothers you that the team fails to sign every big fa, then you a hater.
    As Dodgers fans we have the makings of a pretty good thing right here.
    We got an owner showing the ability to spend to bring in good players.
    A GM team shown to have restraint in using all that money as best they can without losing the trust of the man with the checkbook.
    You can only sign so many giant contracts to players that dont pan out before ownership gets done with you.
    Its why we for the most part dislike Ned.
    Now these GM's have money and they are turning that into a huge nest egg of prospects and buying international depth in order to have lots of ready to play guys coming in every season.
    That is smart. Its smarter than trying to sign max contract pitchers like we have in the past and getting burned.
    I would have busted the bank for Greinke too, but im a fan not a GM with a job and a teams future on the line.
    We have the money, we have talented decision makers in terms of not blowing through all that money, we have loads of quality farmhands, and we riding one of the strongest organizations in sports.
    Our situation is great for now and the future.
    Before we tried a lot of these get rich quick schemes of signing players and trading away our Pedro Martinezes and Paul Konerkos while having bad ownership living on borrowed money. Now we have good money to back up the spots where the young prospects dont fit.
    Thats how the Yankees did it during their run of WS.
     
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    If you tell people how they should be a fan then you a hater and full of yourself.
    You act like they sat back and waved off Greinke like somebody was offering them a syringe full of heroine...they were way up there with the big money/years, so let's not kid ourselves that it was genius that prevented us not signing a historic pitcher we had...it was something quite different.
    Amazing that no matter what these guys do, even if it amounts to almost, so far, nothing, there is always someone to admonish those who question them...and label them...like haters do.
     
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    well said bz
    i don't hate on anyone who chooses to support the front office
    i'm just not sure i agree with them
    there's a lot still to prove
    maybe the nerds are geniuses... or maybe they're bullshit artists over their heads
    i'm leaning toward the latter, but i can't say for sure
    i just hurts to watch other teams get better when we were so close
    but if it's time to shed excess then i get it
    i don't like it, but i get it
     
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    I think if they do get Fernandez for Urias (gasp!) and say Wood and some mid tier kids, then they will have probably gotten as close to Greinke as possible...maybe better, all things considered.
    They seem to be having trouble pulling the trigger...and some of that comes from other FOs and the rep that precedes ours..?like everybody gunning for them.
    We'll see..
     
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    would certainly get a lot of doubters off the ledge
    myself included :cliffjump:
     
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    Naw, In not telling people how to be a fan, im telling people what being a fan is.
    We can all choose to be whatever we want, its a free country.
    You could be a fan of sports entertainment and watch and enjoy. Baseball is our national PASTIME.
    You can be a fanatic that lives and dies with every move in a black or white world of geniuses or bums.
    Folks can choose whichever type of fan they want to be.
    Nobody was being saved and nobody was being demonized in my post. I think the GM's are better than NedCo and everyone else we have had.
    What we are having is hate. Hate at things that you dont like. A venerable podesta of hate.
    Because this remains me a lot of the DePo situation. With these types of GM's there will be some hard choices to be made for the future of our team.
    People that hate change will hate on every move and non move until its proven successful all the way.
    Forgetting how the old way hadnt provided any success for decades.
    But once the new way proves to work then these same types of fans will hold to the new way as hard as they hold to the old way.
    Because the new way will become their old way.
    And when another new way comes (which may be the old way coming back) the fans of the new old way will resist this old new way even if its exactly the same as the old old way they used to hold so dear.
    And they will feel that everyone is persecuting their ways.
     
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    seems like a contradiction of terms
    not telling someone "how" but defining the rules/parameters...
    isn't that the same thing?
     
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