Discussion in 'Los Angeles LAKERS' started by limeytech, Apr 7, 2012.
buss jr is going to have to bite the bullet on this one and fire this dip shit
if g lock and ebanks got more PT, the bench would be faster and healthier
those 2 guys, hell maybe morris too, would compete better than using the old guys =/
if those guys got more time kobe wouldn't be as run down either
I notice, across lakerland the mike brown apologists have taken refuge. It is hard to use the “short season" excuse now. Let's face it. The guy is obviously inept and there is no way we will contend outside of some miracle ball by kobe. By that i mean a stretch of 40+ ppg and shooting 50+%.
Coach Mike Brown said he didn’t find out Bryant wasn’t going to be able to go until just before tipoff.
“Gary came to me and said that Kobe is out,” Brown said. “I said `OK.”’
9 Players have had Issues with Mike Brown this season
Dec. 25, 2011Matt Barnes confirms he is not in Mike Brown's rotation"Just got to deal with, just got to deal with it man. It's tough at times to not play at the start, to not play coming off the bench. But I'm not only one going through that roller coaster, as a team we're kind of going through that."Barnes tweeted this on Christmas Day after the opening game loss to the Chicago Bulls:I am #VERYHEALTHY just NOT in the #10Man rotation rite now, but the season is a #Marathon S/O the homey @NipseyHussleNote: Mike Brown's decision to play Luke Walton ahead during the Sacrament Kings game over Matt Barnes, made Walton the most trended topic on Twitter for the first time ever.===================Apr. 2, 2012Matt Barnes talks about Mike Brown's rotationsQ: How much of a handle do you feel like you’ve got on what Coach Mike Brown is looking for?“It’s been tough for me personally. I went from not being in the rotation, to not playing, to starting, to have Ron replace me, to not really playing, and now my minutes are back picking up. It’s been a roller coaster year to say the least, for everybody. I think the shorten season with no practice have played a hand in that.”“ I think at this point now, [Coach Brown] is trying to shorten the rotation down for playoff minutes. You see that Goudelock is out of the rotation now despite for somebody that’s playing well in that short amount of time. He’s got his hands full. So many things to do in such a short amount of time, and to really try to figure this team out in a shortened season is tough to do.”Q: Does Mike Brown communicate with you sort of managing your minutes, what he expects from you?“He does but it changes from time to time (laughs). It’s hard you know, some nights the bench we’ll play significant minutes, some nights we won’t. There’s been a lot of guys complaining about that, because as a player the one thing you ask more is consistency. They want from us, consistency as a player, consistency on the court. I think as a player all we really ask for is consistency as far as minutes and knowing what we’re getting into before we get into the situation. It's starting to get to that which is good because we’re headed down the home stretch.”
Pau Gasol (Jan. 24, 2012)
Pau Gasol critiques Mike Brown offenseGasol is averaging a career-low 15.8 points per game this season and shooting 50.9 percent from the floor, down from 18.8 points and a 52.9 percent shooting percentage last season. He struggled particularly in his last two games against the Magic and the Pacers, averaging just 10.5 points while shooting a combined 8-for-24 from the field (33.3 percent)."We have to make sure we use our interior game as other teams do," said Gasol before practice Tuesday. "Like I mentioned last game, Orlando goes to the interior game. I don't think Dwight Howard is that much more talented than me and Andrew [Bynum] in the post. Indiana used their post game with [Roy] Hibbert and [David] West. I don't think they're as much talented as we are. Why don't we? I think that's always a very effective way to play this game."Lakers coach Mike Brown downplayed the issue, pointing to Gasol's stat line of 10 assists and zero turnovers against Indiana as proof positive that the four-time All-Star still has a vital role in the offense."Pau's getting touches down there," Brown said. "Sometimes he may get more; sometimes he may get less depending on the flow of the game. But he can operate down there [and] he can operate from 15 feet. He does a great job facilitating, just as well as he does scoring."
Josh McRoberts (Feb. 4, 2012)
Josh McRoberts latest target of decreased playing time by Mike Brown"This is my fifth year now and this isn't the first time this has happened where you're playing big minutes and all of a sudden you're not playing," said McRoberts, who was averaging 3.1 points and 4.0 rebounds in 17.1 minutes before Saturday. "I mean, everybody wants to be out on the court for 48 minutes, but it's not discouraging for me. I'm going to keep working hard and continue to get better."
Metta World Peace (Feb. 14, 2012)
Metta World Peace and Mike Brown appear at odds"His background is video coordinator or whatever. So he's all stats," World Peace told CBSsports.com. "But Ron Artest is all feel. [Brown] doesn't understand that. Having me in the game at the end, he was worried about me shooting bad from the free-throw line. And I was like, 'I could care less because I'm gonna get a stop [defensively] at the end of the game.'"
Derek Fisher (Mar. 10, 2012)
Derek Fisher speaks as players told by Coaching Staff to curtail external chatter
In place of practice, Lakers coach Mike Brown scheduled a film review at the team hotel and invited players and his coaching staff to speak their minds.
"I utilized my assistants a lot because I don't like the players hearing my voice a lot," Brown said. "I talked a lot. I said, 'You know what? I'm going to have someone else talk.' After two losses like that everybody's feeling kind of down. So, I wanted to hear other guys' voices."
When no player volunteered to speak up, Brown said he requested that "my three leaders" share their thoughts; first Pau Gasol, then Derek Fisher and finally Kobe Bryant.
Fisher, who has a reputation of knowing when to say the right thing at the right time, including calling an impromptu players' only meeting following a win over Portland earlier this season, said that from a player's standpoint "it wasn't a time to go there," but he, Bryant and Gasol engaged in the conversation out of respect to the coaching staff who had spoken up.
"If there's too much talking and not enough playing, then yes (it could be a bad sign)," Fisher said. "I don't know if communication for us is bad. We're trying to do something that we've done before, in terms of winning a championship, in a completely different way. So, we're trying to recreate something with a new model and that's the challenge. Communicating and working through our differences and talking about things and ultimately holding ourselves accountable, I don't know if that's a bad thing for us. It's in some ways part of the process."
The film session came on the heels of a report by ESPNLA.com's Ramona Shelburne that players were unhappy with Brown's offense and were holding private discussions about the desire to return to former coach Phil Jackson's triangle system.
"When you're trying to continue to have a culture of excellence and championship success, the commitment and the time that that takes, you become like a family and there are going to be times when the family is just not clicking or it's not getting along," said Fisher. "We've all been there. There are just some cousins at Christmas dinner that we all wish weren't there, but you know, they're part of the family and you got to welcome them and do your thing and you'll see them next Christmas. But, in this business, you got to see them everyday regardless. So, sometimes it's not flowing the way you'd like it to, but we've been pretty good at figuring how to work through those things and we'll continue to do it that way."
Devin Ebanks (Mar. 20, 2012)
Devin Ebanks’ agent says lack of playing time may affect Ebanks’ Lakers future
Ebanks' Agent said a lack of playing time could affect his Lakers' future after the second-year player becomes a restricted free agent July 1 … especially if the incumbents returned.
"If Coach Mike Brown is going to play with Matt Barnes and World Peace next season, Devin's not going to come back and do that," agent David Bauman told The Times. "He'll find a better opportunity where he can have a chance to break into a rotation."
Ebanks, 22, was expected to be a sleeper for the Lakers but was removed by Brown from the starting lineup after four games. Since then, he's either at the end of the bench or in the Development League.
"Just staying a professional at all times," said Ebanks, averaging 2.5 points and 1.8 rebounds in only 13 games out of a possible 46 played.
Kobe Bryant (Mar. 25, 2012)
Kobe Bryant not pleased with benching by Mike Brown
With Brown subbing Metta World Peace in for Bryant with about 3:56 left in the game, the Grizzlies held onto their lead and went on to win, breaking a three-game losing streak.
Asked whether he was unhappy about Brown’s decision, Bryant responded, per the Orange County Register, “That’s a very astute observation.”
Said Brown, per the L.A. Times, "I felt I wanted to make a sub at the time so I did. Not one particular thing. Went with Metta for a couple minutes and then tried to go back to (Bryant). Obviously it didn't work."
Kobe Bryant sat during a critical stretch of the Lakers' game against the Grizzlies. (AP photo)
Bryant, who returned to the floor with 1:51 left in the game as the Lakers trailed by 9, said he won’t hold any grudges toward Brown.
"It's his decision to make," Bryant said. "He makes the decision. He's the coach. If you guys are looking for a story, I'm not going to give you one. I can't sit here and criticize his decisions. In leading this ballclub, that's something I can't afford to do. I got to have his back. I've had his back the whole season; I can't start doing something crazy now. It wouldn't make no sense.”
Lakers center Andrew Bynum didn’t seem to understand the move. "I have no idea what was going on,” Bynum said, according to The Times. “Obviously, it was something (coaches) wanted to prove. You should ask those guys about it."
Brown said he probably will not discuss his decision with Bryant.
“I treat him the same as everybody most of the time," Brown said. "Obviously he's a superstar. And when you have superstars, you try to give them some leeway because they've been there and done that. But if I make a sub for somebody I don't feel like I always have to go explain to them why I made a sub."
Andrew Bynum (Mar. 26, 2012)
Andrew Bynum doesn’t agree with Mike Brown benching
Brown yanked Andrew Bynum from the game early in the third quarter after the center badly missed a three-point shot, though Bynum appeared amused on the bench as he mimicked the form on his release.
“That’s something that I thought could have taken us out of rhythm, so I took him out of the game,” Brown said.
Bynum sat out the rest of the third quarter and played only 2:50 in the fourth quarter, finishing with 11 points and five rebounds in 23 minutes.
“I don’t know what was bench-worthy about it,” said Bynum, who indicated he wanted to continue taking shots from beyond the three-point arc. “I made one [Sunday] night and I missed one tonight.” Did Brown talk to him about the shot? “Not yet,” Bynum said. “I’m sure he wants to.”
Ramon Sessions (Mar. 30, 2012)
Ramon Sessions said to still be in "Search Mode"
“He’s in search mode a little bit,” Lakers coach Mike Brown said Thursday. “He’s with a different group now. Before, coming in with the second unit, he had a little bit of freedom or whatever to just go out and play the game and not worry about taking too many shots or not getting the guys enough touches in the right spot. It’s going to take a little bit of time for him to figure out how he can continue to help us.”
Sessions’ addition has already been a sight for sore eyes for the Lakers’ offense as his penetration and ball handling ability has resulted in easy layups at the rim. He may have bucked the learning curve with his instant success upon arrival, but now that Sessions has the additional challenge of fitting his personal offense in while still getting Bryant, Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum touches, it’s important he gets comfortable with that balance as quickly as possible.
“I’m still getting there,” Sessions said. “It’s not one of those things that’s 100 percent yet, but that’s no excuse at all … It’s definitely a whole new thing for me with everybody – with Bynum, with Pau, with Kob’ – it’s definitely one of those things you have to get familiar with. It’s not going to happen overnight. Just keep grinding.”
Just 10 days prior, it was reported by ESPN's DaveMcMenamin that Session approached Mike Brown because he was unsure of his role during the loss in Houston.
Mike Brown: "He (Sessions) said after the game to me, ‘You know coach, going down the stretch, I didn’t have a great feel for what you wanted to do offensively.’"
players are going to have issues w any coach but its just clear this one is because mike brown is what he is. over rated, out matched and clueless how to make it work. put a stake in it already jim.
Not to mention Drew seems to be actively sabotaging the season because he doesn't like Potato head.
some of those quotes seem to be misinterpreted
Or simply acting out now that he is having an all star season?
the whole team is acting out now
Mike Brown talked his way into this job, but his players are not listening to him. Kobe is the leader of the team and we can all tell he doesn't like Mike Brown. The others feel empowered by that, they don't respect Brown, and they show it. Unfortunately, Bynum shows it too much. He needs to be more subtle about it, the way others do. They claim to stand behind the coach but then take digs at him in the press every now and then.
so who thinks he'll get fired at the end of the season after the lakers get knocked out of the 1st round, cause i know thats gonna happen =/
Mike at his best LOL
lol at whoever added the titles...
makes sense to me
sounds like he was a spectator or should i say spectater talking about what happened
thats pretty much what he is
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