Discussion in 'CARDINALS PAGE' started by CardsShark, Oct 19, 2013.
Right when you think the Cardinals minor league system might be running out of gas, Guess what you are WRONG .... The Cardinals have done an awesome job with player development and signing those players. The Cards have done it the right way but one must have some luck on ones side and I'm glad that we have had it.. I can't wait to see what Taveras has to offer for this team and for the future... There is one thing tho with the hole Rasmus and Taveras thing, Taveras is a teachable kid were Rasmus just wanted to learn his own way.. I think that Taveras is going to be a way better all around hitter and defender then Rasmus... On the other hand Rasmus was a great talent and seems like he is starting to turn the page and I wish him the best...
The Cardinals just have so much pitching, I'm glad to see some position players come up the ranks... These young players are winning in the lower levels and that is the way that you want them to learn...
On a second note the one guy that I am keeping a eye has to be the young Carson Kelly... This guy could be a stud!!!
Grichuk is the other guy that the Angels traded to the Cards for Freese & Salas... I think the Cardinals have stolen this guy he is a power hitting outfielder and looks like he has the skills to play great defense as well... The injury bug has gotten to him but heck the kid is only 22... I like all the news that I am getting on this kid and he should do great things with this franchise, since he won't be the trivia question mark in the Angels... The Cardinals know that Hollidays contract is coming off the books in 2016 so they are getting there outfield set up for that... great move Moe and I sure hope the kid can turn things around...
Taveras looks to report '100 percent' at camp
By Jenifer Langosch / MLB.com | 1/18/2014 9:25 P.M. ET
ST. LOUIS -- Oscar Taveras, a day after having his surgically repaired right ankle examined by a Cardinals team physician, said he expects to be "100 percent ready" when he reports to Spring Training next month.
Taveras has been rehabbing his ankle since undergoing a procedure to repair torn ligaments and clear out loose cartilage. He has not resumed running at full speed, though general manager John Mozeliak said Taveras should be cleared to do so within the next few weeks.
"With the work that I've done this week and what I've done at home with the trainer, I feel 100 percent," Taveras said Saturday through interpreter Marissa Diaz, a member of the Cardinals' community-relations department. "In Spring Training, I hope to get stronger and be back with the team."
Taveras, who enters 2014 as the organization's top prospect, was limited to 174 at-bats last season due to the ankle injury and subsequent surgery. The Cardinals are open to considering him for an Opening Day roster spot but first want to see how/if the lost time has affected him.
Taveras will get spring work at all three outfield positions during Spring Training, though with the offseason addition of Peter Bourjos, he'll more likely find a big league fit in right field.
"He absolutely looks great," Mozeliak said. "By the time we get to Spring Training, he should be cleared to run. But just from a physical standpoint, I think he's in the best shape of his life.
"I think for all of us, including myself, I'm just excited to see where he's at and where he may fit in. I think the one thing you always have to remind yourself is to be patient. The fact that we have a Matt Adams and an Allen Craig interchangeable does give us flexibility."
The Cardinals have brought Taveras to St. Louis about once a month this offseason to monitor his progress. During his stays, Taveras has participated in workouts alongside Trevor Rosenthal and Matt Holliday. He has been taking batting practice for some time now.
"I've been working really hard with my ankle," Taveras said. "Physically, I feel prepared. I feel good. Last year was off because of the ankle. I felt bad because I wasn't on the team. But I was watching the team, watching my friends play hard. That got my spirits up to work hard this year. If God has it, I will be on the team this year in 2014."
Taveras said he plans to report to Spring Training on Feb. 10, a week earlier than the first official workout for position players.
It will be great to see OT on the field again... The kid would have been up with the Cards if not for the injury. This kid knows how to hit the play the greatest game ever..
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Redbirds’ Grichuk Aiming to Make a Name
By Don Wade Updated 2:51PM
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It’s going to come up, so let’s get it out of the way now: Randal Grichuk was selected one pick ahead of Mike Trout in the opening round of the June 2009 First-Year-Player Draft.
Trout, who is still with the Los Angeles Angels, is widely regarded as the game’s best player – the golden brick if you were building a team from the ground up.
Grichuk had never played above Double-A when, last November, he and fellow outfielder Peter Bourjos were traded to the St. Louis Cardinals for third baseman David Freese and relief pitcher Fernando Salas. Bourjos has become the starting center fielder in St. Louis and, most days, that’s Grichuk’s job description with the Triple-A Memphis Redbirds.
Randal Grichuk finds himself manning centerfield for the Memphis Redbirds after being traded to the St. Louis Cardinals in November. He’s part of a loaded outfield in Memphis.
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“I felt like being traded, that’s fresh eyes, new opportunity,” Grichuk said. “Get away from my past and start over. It’s a great feeling.”
Don’t take that the wrong way, though. Grichuk and Trout were, and are, friends.
“It just happened we got drafted by the same team,” Grichuk said.
Grichuk is only 22. And his 6-foot-1, 195-pound frame boasts Popeye arms and fast-twitch legs. In a different circumstance – another team – he might be getting force-fed in the majors now. Occasionally, that’s the best thing for a player. More often, it’s the worst.
As an outfielder in the Cardinals’ organization, however, Grichuk could put up big numbers this season and still not see St. Louis until September. Even as a member of the 40-man roster and the No. 10 prospect in the organization as rated by Baseball America.
Oscar Taveras, deemed the Cardinals’ top prospect and the No. 3 prospect in the game by Baseball America, and Stephen Piscotty, who opened eyes with a great spring training, are also playing the outfield for the Redbirds. And Joey Butler, essentially the team’s fourth outfielder, and who got 12 at-bats with the Texas Rangers last season, was actually leading the Pacific Coast League in hitting (.464) through the first week and a half.
“The system’s loaded in outfield depth, that’s for sure,” Grichuk said, and that includes James Ramsey and Mike O’Neill at Double-A Springfield.
Grichuk, who bats and throws right-handed, was hitting .300 with four doubles, a homer and seven RBIs through the Redbirds’ first 11 games.
He lost much of his 2010 and 2011 seasons to injuries – everything from a torn thumb ligament to a broken wrist to a fractured kneecap. Last season at Double-A Arkansas for the Angels, he hit .256 with 22 home runs and 64 runs batted in. He also had 27 doubles and eight triples. But he took just 28 walks with 92 strikeouts over 500 at-bats.
“He has to find a way to strike out less, work his way on base, and still use that power to his advantage,” Cardinals general manager John Mozeliak said. “If he can do that, he might become a very special player at the major-league level.”
During the Redbirds’ first homestand, Redbirds manager Pop Warner and hitting coach Mark Budaska had a talk with Grichuk. Budaska already had started working with him on making some subtle, but not insignificant, changes in his swing and approach.
“He wants my elbow a little bit back, keep that down angle and get to the ball as quickly as possible,” Grichuk said, offering the short explanation.
“He just has to manage the strike zone and try and stay in the middle of the field,” Budaska said.” That kid has a lot of athleticism, and the ball really comes off his bat nice. He’s got bat speed.”
Warner’s message to Grichuk: “Look at the big picture. We’re doing this for your future, not just so you can put up Triple-A numbers. We want you to be a mainstay in St. Louis and help us win championships.”
Grichuk understands. Doesn’t mean it’s easy, but he gets it. This isn’t like when he was 12 and hitting home runs at the Little League World Series.
At Double-A, he had to adjust to pitchers starting him with breaking balls while he was forever sitting on the fastball. There will be more adjustments this season at Triple-A – and whenever he reaches the majors; the Cardinals do believe it is when, not if.
“Obviously, you want to perform now,” he said. “I think it’s a process. Give yourself the best swing, the best opportunity, so when you do get called up there you can perform.”
And there is the possibility of getting called up there. The Cardinals made liberal use of the Redbirds’ roster last year on the way to the National League pennant. It could happen again.
“That’s one of Mo’s big things,” Grichuk said, referring to Mozeliak. “They’re not afraid to call their guys up. I like that.”
I love this pick up for the Cardinals... Bourjos & Grichuk bring a lot to the Cards and in my mind didn't gave up that much... I love Freese but he needed a change. Grichuk has so much upside and I'm tired of hearing the Trout thing... Who gives a shit! This kid has a lot of potential and he looked great in spring training. Will post what he has done so far in Triple A in a minute.
The Cardinals do have outfield depth and that is a great thing to know... Holliday is signed thru 2016 with a option year and either tho he is still one of the best left fielders and hitters in the game, how much would he have left afterwards..
I would like to see Taveras come up first but the only spot right now is CF and with the injuries to his ankle I kind of wonder how he could handle that... I don't know if Grichuk has the long term stay for a CF but it would be great if you could... Then you have Piscotty, a good looking hitter that could come into a lot of power... Piscotty in LF,Grichuk in CF and Taveras in Right... Sounds like a great looking outfield if everything works out that way... That would have to been years down the road tho..
I love the talent the Cardinal have in the outfield .... It all starts with Oscar Taveras, the word is that this kid can hit and hit. Then they have Piscotty who has opened up a lot of eyes during SPT, the guy is a gap to gap hitter but there is more room for power when he ends up filling out... The one guy that I want to see first would have to be either OT or Grichuk. I like the trade the Cardinals made to get him and Bourjous, they stole him from the Angels. Grichuk has power and that is the one thing this game is lacking and its a good thing to see the Cardinals have some of that coming up...
I think it is time for the Cardinals to send down Sugar Shane Robinson, I like the guy but our bench has no power at all.. I know it is better to have the young guys get there at bats down in the minors instead of rusting on the bench up here... On the other hand think about it Boujous is really pressing right now and Jay is hot but how long his that going to happen... I love Jay and Bourjous but come on Jay is a fourth outfielder bc of all the hot and cold streaks... The jury is still out on what Boujous can bring to the team, the guy just needs to relax. I don't know how much time Taveras has seen in CF but I would bring up Grichuk and let him play and send down Robinson for now... If Bourjous doesn't get it going let him also go down to the minors and see if he can get on track there... If that was to happen you could bring up Taveras...
The Cardinals do indeed have a log jam when it comes to the outfield... I think the Cardinals need to trade one of the outfielder or send Adams or Craig packing to make room... I don't think that they would send Craig bc of the long term contract that he signed... Adams has plus power but the Cardinals aren't giving him much a chance when it comes to left handed pitching.. I like OT bc of the high end potential and I think I have a man crush when it comes to Grichuk... That mans power and the sound of his bat when the ball hits off of it is just sick.. With sending either Adams or Craig out that would free up the chance for Taveras in right since the Cardinals don't know yet if he can handle the position in CF... Then you could also send either Jay or Bourjous out with whomever and let Grichuk play CF bc he has shown that the man can handle the spot... Then there is someone that we haven't even talked to and that is Piscotty... I love the players make-up and everything that he brings to the table... The Cards have a problem and I don't want to hear that it will settle its-self... I don't want to see anyone traded but man what are they going to do...
imo, they should trade adams while he still has value
he was solid last year and doing well this year
idk, i could be wrong, but i don't see him as a long term solution
kinda like a cross between adam dunn and mike morse
I think you are right bro. The Cardinals have some hard choices to make. I like the power that he brings to the game but man there is just something that I don't like and that could just be it... Allen Craig is not having a good year and that is something that just might be a fluke and then he catches on fire from here on out.. I just hope the Cards make the right choice.. I'm sure that every fan wants that for there teams tho...
If the kid can find his secondary stuff and throw it for strikes he could be a late inning option for the Cardinals... The Cards have there ways in turning former SS into pitchers just look at what Rosenthal has done..
I hope he doesn't make it simply because I don't want to type his last name more then once... lol
Nah bro I think they call him just Tuvi
Sounds like The Rock named him. If you smellllalalalalala what the rock, is cooking.
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