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  1. fsudog21

    fsudog21 DSP Legend

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    You act like that's a bad thing.
     
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    Felipe is under contract through 2023. He comes with 4.5 years of team control at a very reasonable salary, the last 2 seasons being team options. Ruiz has never played in the majors. The deal starts with Ruiz, but it should cost more.
     
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    Congrats on the wedding!
    • I don’t see how the Dodgers make a move for Vazquez or Syndergaard without moving a top-4 prospect.
    • Could the Dodgers and Giants match up in a trade of Joc for bullpen help?
     
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    I give up Ruiz without thinking twice for Vasquez.
    You just have to hope the second piece isn't someone we need at the MLB level or we can use to acquire someone else.
     
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    Thanks! and yeah, I don’t know how they make that trade without including one of those 4 just due to both those FO’s scared of looking like asses. With that said, I also don’t really see them trading for either guy as well. Relievers are too finicky and control for Vazquez doesn’t mean shit to me. This seems to also be a growing feeling around the league. I think earlier this morning(yesterday for you guys), Moriyama posted the top 10-15 relievers from 3 years ago. It was like Jansen, Kimbrel and like nobody else that’s good(not like either of those two are anyway right now). It was kind of surprising, but shows exactly why high prices on relievers are bullshit. The Cubs overpaid for Chapman and they have even admitted to it. Things worked out as they won the WS, but I would love for people to remind me how Chapman looked for them in that decisive game 7. They didn’t win cause they had Chapman, they won cause they were hands down the best team in the league that year and they happened to have Chapman as well. There aren’t too many great examples of relievers being worth a high asking price. Vazquez very well may be the missing cog to landing us a championship, but for a team to say “we want an all star level position prospect and an all star level pitching prospect for a guy that will play 70 innings a season” is bullshit and I think the league is catching up.

    As for the Giants and Dodgers, I don’t see them sending Joc to a division rival. I think if they did a deal it would be for a quantity of spects, since Zaidi could see that as a way to replenish the system.
     
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    You could copy and paste this on a yearly basis.
     
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    Don't disagree with that contention, but I don't see any way in hell this team with this bullpen as currently put together even with a couple of marginal additions, can win the Series. They need a horse. I say this fully aware of how finicky bullpen arms are.

    PS.....congrats on the wedding from someone with over 40 yrs experience in that area.
     
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    Exactly. Felipe Vazquez, Felipe Lopez, Felipe Alou. Don't give a damn. Top flight catching prospect for a reliever is a joke. Don't care that they'd still have Willie Smith. Doesn't mean you burn Ruiz.

    They had better not be contemplating doing this. Friedman is supposed to be the expert at patching up the pen, has done a solid job of doing so thus far without making that sort of deal. Find another way. Ruiz should be used to upgrade at starter. A controllable starter. If not this year, then next. Still some Wall Street guys in the FO, so I know they're smarter than this. It won't happen
     
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    Pretty much smooth sailing for Strasburg today against LAD and in his last 8 or so starts, as well. Opting out of DC at season's end is looking more and more likely.

    Boras really should try and get him traded to the Yanks, Astros or Dodgers. His baseline offers should be fair if he opts to hit the open market, I'm thinking at least a Greinke-ish 6yrs/$200M. But a strong run to the World Series with one of these teams and maybe there would be the potential to land in the $220-240M range and smash Greinke's mark
     
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    burn ruiz, burn...
    dodgers dont win because they afraid to lose
    tommy traded away a lot of good prospects, we hate that memory
    tommy won world series, we love that memory
    tommy was the man though
    when teams like the braves had bean counting overprotected mothers leading them
    we had a man

    Tommy would have turned Kershaw into a bulldog.
    And he would have traded Kenley by now and given someone else a shot to win the job.
    He probably would have run Julio hard until he hurt himself or became Fernandomania.

    You don't baby players, you throw them in the deep end and see if they can swim or not.
    He could be the most talented player but you need to see his spirit. That is the most important in sports.
    If he survives then you have a star but if he fails you move on to the next one.
    The minors are full of them and the draft brings more every year.

    Dodgers got too big to fail. Team stopped being artful trolley dodgers.
    Our rogues of old have gone from being dem bums having to use skulduggery and skill to being just another team run by metropolitan carpetbaggers using other peoples money to make a stack for themselves.
     
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    And it really sounds more and more like the Pirates aren’t even serious about trading Felipe. Only dangling him to see if someone will give them an outrageous offer (like May, Ruiz and other pieces). I mentioned this before, but a good plan B is getting 3 relievers from a 2nd/3rd tier, not having to give up anyone elite, and putting together an effective bullpen that way.
     
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    Stroman going to the Mets... that’s lame
     
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    a good modern definition for the word may be mindfucking
    probably originally comes from someone not being able to win face to face so he sneaks up behind him with a club and sticks the guy in the back of the head.
     
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    They gotta be moving Syndergaard soon.
     
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    Then your next teach word has to be onomatopoeia. ;)
     
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    When did this happen. I thought the A’s were in on Thor.

    If it’s true, what are the Mets thinking. Get Stroman and then trade away Syndergaard? What does that gain them?
     
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    Feel differently about May. I mean like him, but I just value Ruiz more because of what a top flight catcher can mean for every pitcher that a team is employing. Basically a young, cost controlled, star quarterback coming up in the system, so we're talking immeasurable impact. But wouldn't lose my shit if they forked over May for Vazquez. Don't really like it either, but it's much better than the thought of Ruiz going for a reliever..can talk myself into that way, I guess.

    Some foresight..once again pointing to this coming offseason's starting pitching market. Once Strasburg, and to a lesser degree Madbum, are signed and off the open market we may see a solid amount of mediocre guys getting overpaid because it's just going to be slim pickings out there. Would be wise of LAD to hold onto Ruiz as a trade chip that could represent great value in a weak market this winter. They've done a solid job in trades..now, let's stop handing mediocre guys $30-50M in free agency. How about lets not overpay Ryu this offseason and instead let's strike out for a true ace using Ruiz? Who is that ace? Identifying that guy is their job and I wish they'd hurry up and do it so they can win. Nothing against Ryu, really, but the overpaying of players has to stop at some point. Or at least you have to hope it will. Who ever sets out to overpay 4 of the top 5 guys on their payroll? Doesn't feel like the goal at all.
     
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    Smh Can't get a bead on the Mets, whatsoever. It's pretty good theatre, though. Maybe that's it? Just making big name additions to say, " hey we play baseball too " in a market with the Yanks. Probably means Puig will be landing with the Mets too at some point
     
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