FEDIT POLITICS Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by CapnTreee, Aug 12, 2016.

  1. LAdiablo

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    give it 3 weeks
    the libs own open borders now
     
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    in 3 weeks we will have more theater
    the president will ask for a relatively small sum of money from the democratic congress
    money to continue building a fence that presidents have been building and congress has been funding for decades
    the democrats can say yes or no
    either way they look bad

    which is what the president enjoys doing to the democrats
    and when they try to do it to the president it fails to work
    you cant make Donald Trump look bad
    his supporters don't care/forgive him
    it only feeds the sweettooth of people who already hate the president
    the president does not give many fucks about what they think

    if dems say yes to the money the president wants then they look incredibly dumb because they ultimately caved 100%.
    they want to avoid this as much as possible but trump will manipulate them to this

    if the dems say no trump will say that he did all he could and made concession after concession but the dems would not negotiate
    this he can say when he signs an executive order to do what he wants with the border

    either way trump wins
    either the dems cave or trump takes more power onto himself under cover of defending the country setting a bad precedent
    he shut down the government for the longest time ever over theater
    its theater because the border fence can be built by the military corp of engineers and be paid for by national defense funds
    the dems have to know this
    are they really this dumb?
     
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  3. THINKBLUE

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    Unfortunately when the media and academia are complicit, public perception (as evidenced in the polls) will be mostly on the dems side.
     
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    honestly idts
    remember these are the same polls that had pillory winning
    and what exactly are the dems doing?
    in their effort to deny trump anything they are advocating for open borders and the continuation of the madness
    they can scream things like "manufactured crisis" all they want but now we are all living it everyday
    those people sleeping in tents all over your city are real
    the debt, overcrowded schools, medical insurance costs and the strain on our system are all real
    not to mention the fact most everyone i know doesn't believe a word from the media no matter what side they're on
    i think he goes w national emergency and rightly so
    if we don't control that border we are going to be a third world nation soon enough
    its already happening
     
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    Trump will not get his wall. He will not get any funds for the wall. And he will not be able to declare a national emergency to build the wall.

    You can’t claim a “national emergency” when he waited 2 years to do this. Or waited 35 days during the government shutdown. And now an additional 3 weeks. Not to mention the several years it would take to build the wall.

    There is absolutely no way this would hold up in court as a national emergency. You simply can’t use that as an excuse to bypass congress whenever you don’t get your way. The wall is a farce.
     
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    No its a fence.
     
  7. CapnTreee

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    Yep, even if a few short years ago they were for closing borders. How soon they forget.
    Yep.. but those aren't the immigrants.. those are the local dropouts that society has no clue what to do about... so we bus them to San Diego.. LOL
    Sooo true and many fail to come anywhere close to grasping this. Ala young friend @Sauce
    Yep you got that one dead right
    But not that one. Due process. Rule of Law. Do it the right way. It remains possible. And ole' tRump might just have the savvy to pull it off. If he's not impeached first.
    Doubling down on the Amen's that time brotha. Close the door. Open from 9-5 and let them in, once vetted. But documented taxpayers. Like You and Me.. and @rube even cranky Liberatarian uncle @TAFNAC paying what little of his taxes as he can imagine.. but he supports the Federal gubberment which supports us all. Thus the wall/fence/border has immense popular support. And populist tRump knows it and you are not getting him off that scent. So? So.. Close the door for the night already. Document them during business hours and Then move on.



    Now if only #corporations, not just only small biz, paid 'their' taxes then we'd actually all be fine

    Until Singularity.. LOL
     
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  8. CapnTreee

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    young padawan, Yes he will. and Yes they can.

    Sometimes things get done while protests abound
    in full public light
    prolific liar tRump might not know that but his GOP handlers assuredly do

    And besides it's on the lying Dems now since they clamored for a better wall/fence/border only a few short years ago.
    History son
    It's a bkitch
    You bein' played
    Ain't ye been listening to @rube ??
     
  9. Sauce

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    Debt, overcrowded schools, high medical insurance costs are all real things. But they are not a result of illegal immigration. And if you are suggesting that illegal immigration compounds those issues and adds strain on our system then you are wrong. There are numerous studies that discuss the economic impact of undocumented immigrants. If you consulted actual literature (and not Fox News talking points) you would find that illegal immigrants are beneficial to the US. You would see that illegal immigrants contribute more in taxes than they cost in social services. There’s several benefits actually, and I’d be more than willing to provide articles if you care to read. But whatever it is you think the wall will accomplish, I can assure you it won’t.
     
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    There is no such thing as an undocumented immigrant. The language has been perverted to gain your sentiment.

    Illegal aliens do not contribute more than they take the second they start popping out kids.

    And even if that wasn't an issue, why does it matter? They cheated the system and broke the law. Funny how we have to forget that part. The left shifts the debate to make everyone forget that a crime is a crime.

    Illegal aliens are not the cause of all our problems. But we have our own shit to worry about without the added strain. Stockton pays losers 1k per month just for staying out of jail.


    Gavin Newsom is suing the City of Huntington Beach for not bending over backwards to create low income housing in their city. He's so concerned about supply of housing, yet advocates for open borders? Makes zero sense.

    With the growth of socialism in this country it makes zero sense to allow people to come in unvetted with no consequence. It is economic suicide and it has to stop.

    Screw California and its leadership. Sanctuary state status is a disgrace.
     
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  11. CapnTreee

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    Prove it. Show your work.
    Prove it. Show your work.
    Immigrants Yes, illegal immigrants not so much at all.
    You don't really pay attention at all do you?
    Have you never noticed how many times I rail upon those daring to quote Faux News?
    Got a better source?
    Prove it. Show your work.
     
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  12. CapnTreee

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    Whomever is not in control shifts the debate.. This season its the Left pretending that they were not clamoring for a border just a few years ago.

    Mark my words, as soon as a Dem becomes Prez then it will be the GOP claiming a border is wrong.
    Bait and switch is the only game in play
    Yep. This.
    He's an idiot and idiots rarely do make sense
     
  13. CapnTreee

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    Worthy of a rant of its own... but I have other things to get done ATM
     
  14. rube

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    No.
    You are completely wrong here.
    GOP will always talk about the wall.
    GOP big money donors don't want the wall.
    But the base does so the donors pay for wall ads even though they do not want the wall.
    What they want is the rhetoric that will get their guy in office.
    It is sophistry. Sophistry tends to win the masses.
     
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    story of my life....
     
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  16. CapnTreee

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    True that.
    They rail against 'whatever' the other guy (Dem) says. Sophistry is just a prettier word for lying sack of shit.

    But show me the data from when the GOP 'supported' Obama when he sent home more immigrants than any US Prez in history.
    Gets real quiet ...
     
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    If Dylan Hernandez wasn't a bad enough sports writer....he hit a new low today.
     
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