When will the aura around this guy stop? He gets the superstar treatment. He gets the game cover. He gets special treatment. He gets the crowd standing and the loudest cheer when he comes to bat. He gets the obligatory post game references from the press about inconsequential shit. Except, he's not a superstar. I'm not saying he's terrible, but he is simply just a solid major league player. He was great for a couple of months way back when, he isn't Mike Trout. As far as I can tell his charisma stat is only about an 11. It annoys me how he could have potentially been Trout, but he fucking isn't, and gets treated as if he is.
Agree 100%. So overrated it isn't funny. He is just an average player, and the only reason he is still on the team imo, is that he is cost effective/cost controlled at only $7m per
I think you guys are right about him, after all is said and done. Pretty accurate. He has the best arm I've ever seen, but after that, he's really not that player he is made out to be. But, it is all about meat in the seat, and he gets it there. Welcome to Dodger baseball...
Yes, he has been disappointing so far this season. I hope he can find some consistency in his game to take his game to the elite level. This season is a big test for him. But he is not an "average player" LOL
NZ didn't say he was an average player. Be careful with your quotation marks. They are not to be used frivolously.
Just reviewed the thread. Nobody said that. I think everyone agrees that when he's healthy, he is consistently above league average for his position. Whether they want Puig to have any real responsibility on the team, that's probably a different story. I'd rather have anyone else except Carl hit with the bases juiced in the playoffs instead of Puig. lol.
I would wager the mistakes he makes with his arm would outweigh the few highlight reel plays over a season. But, not an ideal night for me to be making that argument after he nailed Barney.
Yeah, second sentence in the second post. Whether he attains "averageness" or not is not the point...he is not the player he is made out to be, whatever label that level is at. He is treated like a superstar, indeed.
Speaking mostly just about the aura he gets, not based on his play, feel like it's a unique combo of things. Regardless of his play, media loves to shine attention on him in good times and bad, especially bad IMO. So that brings a lot of attention to him and ups his status like outside of the field he should be this superstar. He's an interesting guy with an interesting story who has a lot of energy and a bit crazy which is fun to watch over a long haul. It also doesn't matter if he's not producing, which is kinda your point. And then, the Dodgers are a high profile team with lots of position players who are either: boring, haven't had an exciting stretch to garner much attention, or constantly injured. Some special cases like Joc or Turner who could argue otherwise but yeah. The aura around the Dodgers is that they're a team full of high profile people and he's the one who gets a good amount of attention nationally for it. His play since 2014 hasn't deserved the attention he gets, I agree with that, but I also think another not great season will have him eventually have hype fall and someone will take his place
Well, I think the definition of "a not so great season" comes in play here. There are many who drool over 3 NLW winners in a row, but the reality is the very distant, ever-lengthening, even just an appearance in the WS. And of course, the kids with the "flogging a dead horse" emoticon are always waiting in the wings for what they consider a clever response to that fact. The prize is not the prize anymore...the deft spin rules. So what constitutes a not so good season then for us? We don't win the NLW? Or what? Hard to say...the Nerds relish "bargains" (their criteria, not mine and many others), and control, which they enjoy right now with Puig. And right now, attendence is OK I guess, so I see no change in the LF in the near future, no matter what.
Isnt he relatively new still? Joc did nothing and was vaulted as a savior. Same with corey. These guys are young amd have incredible stretches early on. But puig is still 25. Had 2 good seasons and so far 2 bad ones. Look at hiw much love kike got last year amd now? Puig is not to blame that his detractors made him a media star. The more folks hate on a guy the more the media us going to talk about him. Both for good n bad. Puig made himself with his arm amd bat and his physique that reminds people of bo or mondesi or others like that. Then he showed his immaturity and cultural confusion typical of someone fresh off the boat and the detractors jumped and so the media has a field day which then fuels the detractors some more. At this point singling out puig seems a bit extraneous. Specially in light of how much fun it is to see a player care about something as fundamental and often overlooked like gunning down runners from deep in the of.
Rube hit the nail Puig is 25 and has been through a maelstrom of attention since he arrived. That will mess with anyone's head, particularly some poor kid from a 3rd world island And we the loyal Dodger fans were led to believe that this kid is a superstar and he's let us down numerous times and he now appears ignorant of the value of clutch and he's still better than so many alternatives and he may yet become a star we're delighted with if not a superstar and if nothing else, at 25 he can still change a game in one swing or one throw and that is worthy of a roster spot so far
Idk, that excuse has been said since Day 1. I'm rather sensitive to the issue for him, but the thing is: the off the field stuff seems to be corrected. He's having lots of fun, teammates seem to enjoy him, and his energy is off the wall. All the noise has been corrected. It's about the play on the field that is the #1 concern. He can obviously still turn it around in a heartbeat, just saying that all the outside stuff doesn't matter if he's OPSing around .700. We don't need him to be Mike Trout cause that's unfair, but it would be nice to have him at least be a damn good player on this team consistently
consistent and clutch remain two primary failings we agree and if his OPS is 1.100 then he can stay out and dance all night for all I care all about results
The last thing i want from puig is averageness. Id rather he be a 700 ops guy with a cannon arm amd solid d if he learns how to hit in the clutch. Derek fisher was a horrible pg. Sucked most of the year/game. Couldnt shoot or create offense for others with deft passing. Not even a good defender skills or athletics wise. But he had one skill. Heart. Eventually he learned to shoot a lil bit. Enough to let his heart elevate his shooting to become real good in the clutch. His heart allowed him to become a good leader that others respected. And his heart made him gritty and a pest defensively by using his strength to body people up. Heart ie courage determination and being in the moment go along away. Which is why i prefer puig as he is. If he was average i would have less hope of him becoming better. Because averageness breeds complacency. And thats a rally killer.
