MLB NEWS/RUMORS Thread

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If the Dodgers could acquire one player at the deadline, who would you prefer?

  1. Machado

    43.5%
  2. Front line starter (degrom, thor, et al)

    56.5%
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  1. ColoradoKidWitGame

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    Keeping Machado would make things really interesting and I would wonder how the team would even maneuver that one. There is no trading of Seager or Turner that the club would consider and the emergence of Muncy makes for a situation where you can't really move him off of 1B. So someone is going to have to play 2B and I have a hard time seeing any of those guys doing that capably(though Turner looks solid in shifts there). Only thing that could work is Muncy learning a capable LF. Kemp to me is as good as gone after this season. He had a nice bounceback early, but his numbers overall are not good enough to block guys like Verdugo or Rios or probably even Toles. Plus, he's a goddamn travesty in the OF.

    What is your idea to then fill the C vacancy? If your ideal scenario plays out where it is, then the Dodgers are looking at an everyday lineup of LF Joc/Verdugo/Taylor/Hernandez, 2B? Turner, 3B? Seager, SS? Machado, 1B Muncy, RF Puig, CF Bellinger... so they could sacrifice offense at the position if they chose to go with Barnes. Not to mention they would have a shit ton of money back on the books so they could elect to go cheap here anyway.

    Walter is saying all the things to make me think that there is just no chance that they even let Kershaw opt out, so I expect to see him back. I think there is nearly zero chance that they move Maeda as his contract is just too sweet to move, but I kind of felt that a Wood trade could be on the docket. I don't think there is a chance in hell that they'd re-sign him after next season and they may try to get what they can now. I've felt that Joc could be expendable, but you would have to think that a contract driven Puig may be something to keep around.
     
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    I’d play Beli in CF for the year if you can bring back Manny. Either play Manny at 3B/Turner at 1B or Seager at 2B. It’s not ideal but it happens. Washington moved Rendon and Turner around to accommodate things. Turner at 1B is probably an inevitability at some point and with shifts and how good our offense would be what’s it matter. More than enough playing time to go around for Turner, Machado, Seager, Muncy and Bellinger.
     
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    I think the days of penciling in a lineup are over. Too many platoons and off days.

    Turner, Machado, Muncy, Seager and Bellinger should get consistent AB’s next year. Taylor and Verdugo are cool too. Puig and Joc are at the end of their deals and probably not worth paying considering we have cheaper comparable options, but if we did move Verdugo and extend one of them I wouldn’t be upset. Play the young catchers even with the steep learning curve that comes with hitting for C’s at the MLB level. I forgot Kiké he can stay too.
     
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    I don't like the thought of Seager at 2B. That's a big, big guy that they'd be asking to make those turns and sometimes awkward angle throws, and there's such a difference in the footwork there. I know there's big fella Lemahieu in Denver handling himself well at 2B, but Seager's just never struck me as that guy. But if his offense returns, to have that offense at 2B would be appreciated, so it wouldn't be terrible.

    JT moving off 3B for Machado would be fine I think, I'm with you there. Machado's maybe better than JT at 3B right now, or with a respectable amount of work he would be. But if you lock Turner and Machado at the corners, basically, and have Seager returning and taking 2B, that's a squeeze on Muncy. I know you like Muncy, but a scenario where Machado returns puts Muncy in a bad spot..which I'm fine with, I'm just saying. And then of course Lux could play well enough to break into the IF by September. Machado re-signs and maybe they'd be better off selling high on Muncy, sending him to some club that can get him 500ABs and value him like an everyday guy?
     
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    Seager's arm has been iffy so you put him at 1st. Personally I put odds that Manny stays at 0.000%
     
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    Maeda ended Christian Walker's season with that FB to the face last night. Apparently has some broken bones from it. Maeda was pretty visibly upset after the fact, so I hope that the D'Backs use that as enough reason NOT to retaliate. Gonna be interesting to watch with the tentious recent history of these two clubs.
     
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    Same page. Muncy has to play LF in that scenario..and Seager at 2B definitely doesn't feel right, none of them do. Maybe they deal Muncy, sell high before he wakes up and realizes what he's done ala Taylor this year? But yeah, with you 100%, Kemp is trash out there. The resurrection was fun and so necessary with so many other guys playing like shit earlier, but this 2nd stint with the team wasn't meant be long lasting.

    We've thrown around some catching options before, the one that always sticks is Wil Ramos on a short term deal to bridge to Smith/Ruiz. Contract year Puig feels like its going to go great or just flat out terrible, no in between. All it'd take is one injury where he misses a couple weeks or a month and we're probably back to pressing/contract year Hanley all over again trying to hit 4 HRs every game
     
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    They have to win something, so I imagine a benches clearing dust up is on deck. Which they also may not win, but they probably have a better shot there. If they injure one key Dodger in a benches clearing ep it'd probably be worth it to them. Lol
     
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    Oh I didn't hear about that I hope he can recover enough to still be a pro. Highly doubt they retaliate Maeda has never been known as a head hunter.
     
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    Seager at 1B seems like the way to go if Machado returns. Especially with Lux potentially moving into 2B in '19 or '20.

    0% feels strong, but they have to do hell of a lot of maneuvering if he does return. Might be easier to just sign Harper and fit him in if they want a big bat..even though Machado has a pretty good shot to be the better buy long term given that he's an infielder
     
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    Probably not as much as three world series championships.
    I get it, but we know they won three times, the cornholing is all conjecture.
    Unless there's eyewitness accounts...
     
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    Worked for Steve Garvey. I think Harper re-signs with the Nats but he will delay it for a long long time to see what the Nats do to replace pitchers who are FA's. Their everyday line-up is good IF healthy.
     
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    Seager definitely looks the part of a 1B. If he can just give us Olerud like production, we can win with that. He doesn't have to be McGwire or Bagwell.

    With Boras getting the deal done for Stras before free agency, it makes me wonder if the Nats were also given a real shot at re-signing Harper early ( during his cold streak earlier in the season)
     
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    Retaliate for what? It was a pitch that got away in a one run game. Last thing Maeda wanted is to give Ariz a free pass.
     
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    Garvey wasn't coming off an arm injury. He couldn't hit the ocean from the pier (or third base). He became a very good 1B, especially at digging throws out of the dirt. His arm was rarely tested, as he mostly refused to make anything but the simplest of throws.
     
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    Ohtani has decided to have Tommy John surgery
    Don't you just hate when MFs put off Tommy John and wait for months to have it when they know good and damn well that they need it?
    What does he miss, all of next season now?
    Should've had the surgery in June..or even May
     
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    If Machado is at 3B and Turner is at 1B then Seager is the SS though. That leaves Muncy to play mostly at 2B but also the primary backup at 3B and 1B, and the first option to DH. I think that’s enough AB’s for him considering Turner never plays 150 games and Machado can slide to SS and Muncy to 3B on Seager’s off days.
     
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    But Machado has stated he considers himself a shortstop. It's one thing that if he's already on the team to tell him he's playing third, but in this scenario you'd have to convince him to take your offer over any others while accepting third base. Sounds like a longshot at best.
     
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    Muncy needs to play everyday at either 1B or LF.
    Kemp should go into next year as a very expensive backup.
    Verdugo should be given the shot to start in CF.
    Bellinger in LF.
    Puig in RF.
    Joc and Kemp back them up.
    Machado, Turner, and Seager as the main infielders next to Muncy or Bellinger at 1B.
    Taylor, Kike, and Freese as the infield backups.
    Rookies at Catcher.
     
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    That could play for a solid amount of games, but I'm with CKWG on this one. If Muncy starts playing everyday, I think he's more likely to settle into LF ( or 1B). This FO in particular, they don't seem keen on sacrificing defense up the middle/have been more willing to just drop a soul into LF - Howie and Kemp

    But lets say Muncy gets 200 PAs at 2B ( maybe generous), maybe he could get another 200 PAs spread around from 3B/1B/LF. Still not quite the target number of ABs, but 400 could be a solid enough number to hold onto him - for at least next season/before Lux lands.
     
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