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  1. McCPRO55

    McCPRO55 Active Member

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    He won’t be a (D). He is a Libertarian like me, but I get it—say something against DT, and you get called a Democrat. I get it from the cult all the time. He stood against gun control, endless war, federal spending, elite pedophiles, and foreign aid. He didn’t lose because of anything on your list. He didn’t kiss DT’s ass, and the most butthurt, thin-skinned politician in history did what he does: acted like a bully and started calling people names. The cult ate it up, and Massie lost fair and square. He is a good man. I gave you the Constitution, and you gave me the list you have to follow or get the boot. I appreciate having my say.
     
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    Every time someone calls you a democrat he is showing his wings.
    His stormtrooper wings.
     
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    I think if you dig a little deeper into the statements on this propaganda leaflet, you'll see that many of them are straight up false, or misrepresentations of a position against government spending, government abuse, and/or foreign intervention rather that taking "democrat" positions.

    For example, the one that claims he voted against the SAVE act is factually incorrect. He voted against a rulemaking provision that would have allowed the SAVE act to move through congress without the standard 24 hour notice.
    Massie did, in fact, vote for the SAVE act.
    https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2025102
     
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    Fair enough. I'll address you and @TAFNAC at the same time if that's ok. i guess it has to be since that's what i'm doing right? i think i align more w Libertarian pov's but don't claim it and if i agree w DJT about most anything i'm called a racist or worse. seems like the way it is these days.
    I did just go to X and grab a massie blurb and didn't take the time i typically do to review. no excuses but i was sort of responding in a hasty manner since i'm running out of town guests to the airport, stores, etc. etc. after the kids wedding. still not an excuse but i think i typically do better and you were right to call me on it thanks. i'll be more thorough. i do know he's assumed an adversarial stance toward the POTUS and it makes a huge difference in todays political climate. really can't be underestimated how much of a difference it makes. outside of Fetterman the dems are lock step intent on being maximum obstructionists on everything. not some things. everything. where does that leave us as constituents? i think the democrats have lost touch with who they work for and just their minds in general. i'm hearing a mostly Marxist/Communist bravado i don't think this country has ever had in its history. and young educated people seem to be lining up behind the mamdani/aoc/sanders etc. and going all in on it. so for me personally its about making sure they don't get the chance to destroy the filibuster/stack the court/statehood for PR and DC...put a bullet in the head of someone who doesn't agree w them and force themselves into power.
    DJT is not a perfect man and i think I and others are pretty vocal in despising his need to attack a dead man like Reiner, piss on the political graves of oppenents, bring his family into office w him on and on. he IS thin skinned and that's very unattractive trait in a human no question.
    i just think we are talking about a fight for civilization at this point in time and if he says the guy goes to create solidarity and defeat the left completely i'm in. its a shame massie can't see that and possibly vote for something he doesn't 100% agree w for the cause. is it personal? possibly self aggrandizing? i don't know and it probably doesn't matter. its politics and this point in time appears to be one for the ages. maybe i'm old and maybe i'm wrong but that's how i see it. i don't gaf about trannies and teeth for tweakers. i want what Bukele is selling and people to be responsible and decent to each other. not wide open borders and defund the police. if massie is the great guy you say than its unfortunate he's collateral damage. but i sort of suspect its more about his personal fortunes and not ours. no time for it right now. good luck to all of us.
    as far appreciating having your say who doesn't allow that? i more than appreciate your say and the discourse. we're all bearing witness to an incredible moment in time especially internationally. it may be brilliant. i tend to think it is atm. and after all i'm just a guy posting on a sports site. my opinion couldn't matter less. but thanks for the attention!
     
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    slippery fish this one
    specially when moist
    no net can catch him
    the eel fish is a snake
    slippin by every time
     
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    rough blow for Tulsi and her husband. can not appreciate enough her service to the country. life isn't fair.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Bluezoo Among the Pantheon Moderator

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    Good broad.
    Did what she had to do.
    Fight the good fight.
     
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    Simon Magus type shit.
    Imagine believing in this shit.
    Imagine following leaders that entertain this shit.
    You dont have to imagine it.
    We have had astrologers and witches invited to the White House before.
     
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    If the rumors about the Iran peace deal are true, Trump is kissing the feet of the IRGC and making the USA look horrid
    He will have basically paid billions to the IRGC, who are more radicalized now than before, to keep a waterway open that was already open for free

    May be an all-time blunder in the history of the USA
     
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    Luckily all of us here are stoic libertarian puritans.
    No dirty democrats or randy republicans here!
    lol
     
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    Sandwich bread and water is what they feed prisoners in jail.
    One side will promise you a ham sandwich with all the trimmings.
    The other side will just promise you water.

    You get to pick the type of government you want to have.
    The only problem is what you dont know about the deal.
    The one between Wasserman and the Earl of Sandwich.
    They put shit in the sandwich and they poison the water.

    Everything they teach people is for social conditioning.
    It is self indulgent in order for you to buy into the propaganda and get re-educated 'willingly'.
     
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    there is no excuse for your ignorance
    ignorance of the law will not save you
    excuses about how they lied to you will fall on deaf ears
    that is standard operating procedure
    you have to stop believing the media

    the only salvation is to repent
    the sooner the better
    leave the democrats and the republicans
    leave babylon
    leave confusion

    or you will pay for all of their crimes
    they will all be placed upon your shoulders
     
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    5.5 weeks of air strikes and a successful naval blockade of Iranian ports resulting in taking 400kg of highly enriched uranium (enough to make 11 nuclear bombs) is not one of the biggest blunders in US history (if this deal even happens).

    As put by someone else:

    "Imagine Iran killed our president and our top 100 government and military leaders, obliterated our entire navy, destroyed our manufacturing base, and then forced us to hand over our nuclear materials in a deal just to get them to stop.

    It would be considered a complete and total defeat -- and rightfully so.

    Now, reverse the roles.

    That's what has just happened."


    Even if the strait was open for free before the war, that's not the point. Iran weaponized and basically closed it during the conflict. The US responded effectively with a blockade that cost Iran $500M per day. The deal reopens it for safe, free passage while forcing them to give up their weapons-grade (close to it anyway) uranium stockpile. That's not weakness, that's winning on multiple fronts without getting dragged into another endless war.

    If Trump goes all the way and takes out the IRGC instead of making a deal, he's warmonger traitor Israel puppet getting us into another forever war and doesn't care about the economic or humanitarian cost.

    If he makes a deal to avoid that immense cost, he's a weak failure.

    I guess I'm too naive to understand. Regardless, we're talking about a 'deal' that hasn't even happened.

    I'm glad war makes us uncomfortable, but there is a loud minority of Americans who actually root for our enemies. And as much as I'd hate to see "anti-semetic" become the new "racist", the irrational hatred for Jews is also getting louder.

    Should go without saying: Not accusing anyone here of being anti-semetic. I am talking about academia, the media, politicians, and podcasters.
     
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    True enough.

    I met more Israel haters in the teacher's lounge than anywhere else I've been in my life.
     
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    Contribution-Adjusted Baseball Ruleset (Version 3.5)

    Implementation Notes
    Fans will still see the Raw Traditional Box Score during and after the game for nostalgia and personal scorekeeping.

    Official Adjusted Stats are calculated by the scorekeeper at the end of each half-inning and finalized after the game. These adjusted stats are used for leaderboards, awards, contracts, arbitration, and Hall of Fame consideration.

    Video review is available for disputed bonus decisions in important situations.

    New Stats & Terms
    • RCV – Run Creation Value (hitters)
    • RPV – Run Prevention Value (pitchers)
    • PTA – Positive Team Actions
    • NTA – Negative Team Actions
    • PTA/NTA Ratio – Main team-player metric
    • AWR – Adjusted Win Rating (pitchers)
    • ABA – Adjusted Batting Average
    • AERA – Adjusted ERA
    • AWHIP – Adjusted WHIP
    • PCR – Productive Contribution Rate
    • PHRC – Pinch Hit Run Contribution
    • Run Setup Assist – Partial credit for actions that help runners score later in the inning
    Core Philosophy

    The goal is to reward actual run production, run prevention, and team contributions while reducing the value of empty stats (hits, walks, or baserunners that do not lead to runs scored in the same inning).

    Traditional stats are recorded live. Only contributions that help score or prevent runs in the same inning receive credit.


    1. Hitter / Baserunner Rules

    Direct Run Production
    • Any action that directly drives in a run (RBI hit, walk, HBP, sac fly, solo HR) = 1.0 full credit.
    Run Setup Assist (partial credit only if the runner(s) score in the same inning):
    • Getting on base (single, walk, HBP) → 0.5 credit
    • Advancing runners → 0.4 – 0.7 credit per base advanced
    • Successful steal → 0.5 credit
    • Sacrifice bunt / productive out → 0.7 credit
    Late Inning Adjustments (added decimal points instead of percentages):
    • 7th inning: +0.1 to all setup credits
    • 8th inning: +0.2 to all setup credits
    • 9th inning and beyond: +0.3 to all setup credits (this is the maximum)
    Pinch Hitters
    • Receive +0.1 extra on all setup credits.
    • They are especially valuable in late innings.

    2. Pitcher Rules

    Baserunner Damage
    • Walks and hits that do not lead to a run → heavily discounted or removed from adjusted stats.
    • Only runners who actually score count as full damage.
    • Stranding runners (especially inherited runners) = strong positive credit toward RPV.
    Inning Depth Bonus
    • Completing 5 innings → small bonus.
    • Completing the 6th inning and beyond → +0.3 RPV per inning pitched.
    Early Hook Protection
    • Starters pulled early while pitching well (under 3 runs allowed) still receive full credit for stranded runners and partial Win Contribution.
    Late Inning Adjustments (added decimal points):
    • 7th inning: +0.1 to positive actions
    • 8th inning: +0.2 to positive actions
    • 9th inning and beyond: +0.3 to positive actions (maximum)

    3. Universal Team Action Stats (All Players)


    Positive Team Actions (PTA)
    Actions that help the team score or prevent runs (RBIs, setups, productive outs, defensive plays, depth innings, clutch work).

    Negative Team Actions (NTA) Empty hits/walks, GIDPs, baserunning errors, fielding mistakes, strikeouts with runners in scoring position, damaging walks/hits that score.

    PTA/NTA Ratio Shown as X.X : 1 and Net Team Actions (PTA – NTA). This is a key “team impact” statistic.


    4. Pitcher-Specific Stats


    Adjusted Win Rating (AWR)
    = Official Wins + Win Contribution Points

    Win Contribution Points (0.2 – 0.9) are given to any pitcher who helps the team win — including starters who set up the win and relievers who maintain or improve the lead.
     
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    Comparison: Contribution-Adjusted Baseball vs. Sabermetrics

    Here's a clear, balanced comparison between our Contribution-Adjusted Baseball system and traditional Sabermetrics (the data-driven approach that gave us WAR, wOBA, FIP, xERA, etc.).

    Core Philosophy
    Aspect Sabermetrics Contribution-Adjusted Baseball
    Main Goal
    Isolate individual skill & predict future performance Reward actual run production and team impact in real games
    View of Stats Process-oriented (how good was the outcome independent of teammates) Outcome-oriented (did it actually help score/prevent runs?)
    Empty Stats Still values them (e.g., high OBP even if stranded) Heavily punishes them unless they lead to runs
    Context Adjusts for park, league, defense, position Adjusts for whether action led to a run in same inning + late-inning value


    Key Differences

    1. What Gets Rewarded

    • Sabermetrics: Values creation of value even if it doesn’t immediately show up in runs. A leadoff walk in the 1st inning is still highly valuable because it increases run expectancy.
    • Our System: Only gives full or partial credit if that runner (or the chain started) actually scores in the same inning. A leadoff single that gets stranded = mostly empty.
    2. Approach to Context
    • Sabermetrics: Uses advanced math (linear weights, park factors, aging curves) to remove noise and luck.
    • Our System: Uses direct game outcome (same-inning run scoring) + simple late-inning added decimals. More “what actually happened” than “what was likely to happen.”
    3. Subjectivity
    • Sabermetrics: Highly objective (though some debate exists on defensive metrics).
    • Our System: More subjective. Scorekeepers must decide setup assist values and whether an action “led to” a run. Video review helps, but human judgment is required.
    4. Pitching Evaluation
    • Sabermetrics: FIP/xFIP removes defense and luck by focusing on strikeouts, walks, and home runs allowed.
    • Our System: Heavily rewards stranding runners and going deep into games (Endurance Bonus). A high-walk pitcher who strands everyone looks much better here than in FIP.
    5. Wins & Team Play
    • Sabermetrics: Downplays Wins for pitchers (sees them as too team-dependent). Emphasizes individual WAR.
    • Our System: Brings Wins back with Adjusted Win Rating (AWR) and shared contribution points. Strongly rewards team-first plays (productive outs, sacrifices, setup work).
    Strengths & Weaknesses

    Sabermetrics Strengths:
    • Excellent at predicting future performance.
    • Reduces luck and teammate dependency.
    • Very good for player valuation and front-office decisions.
    • Objective and consistent across games.
    Sabermetrics Weaknesses:
    • Can overvalue “empty” production that doesn’t actually produce wins.
    • Sometimes feels disconnected from what fans see on the field.
    • Can undervalue clutch performance and team chemistry.
    Contribution-Adjusted Strengths:
    • Much closer to “winning baseball” — rewards what actually helps teams win games.
    • Brings back value for small ball, productive outs, and durability.
    • More intuitive for fans (“He helped score runs” feels fairer).
    • Protects against early hooks and stat padding.
    Contribution-Adjusted Weaknesses:
    • More luck-dependent (a great setup can be wasted by later hitters).
    • Harder to project future value.
    • Requires more scorekeeper work and potential controversy.
    • Less stable from game to game.

    Bottom Line

    Sabermetrics tries to answer: "How good is this player at creating value, independent of his teammates and random outcomes?"

    Contribution-Adjusted Baseball tries to answer: "How much did this player actually help his team score or prevent runs in real games?"

    Our system is not meant to replace sabermetrics — it is a complement or alternative philosophy. It sits closer to traditional baseball values while still being modern and data-trackable. Many sabermetricians would criticize it for re-introducing outcome dependency, while traditional fans and old-school scouts would love it for punishing empty stats and rewarding winning actions.

    It would change how contracts are valued, how managers make decisions, and how fans judge players — shifting focus from “best slash line” to “best contributor to winning.”
     
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    Cornyn blown out damn! [​IMG]
     
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    C3 on X

    Sitting down?
    1970: 8 welfare programs 2026: 80+ welfare programs
    1970: 1 million illegals 2026: 50+ million illegals
    1970: 4% foreign born population 2026: 16% foreign born population
    1970: $371 billion Debt 2026: $39 trillion Debt
    The planned demolition of America.
     
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