Something About the Name Robinson?

and yet robinson crusoe gets no love

 

hard to say
i think most hardcore giants fans get pissed about us getting any extra attention, and vice versa
i agree with bz that jackie's story was big in and of itself; baseball just happened to be his chosen (high-profile) profession
if jackie had been the first african-american (almost) anything else, it would have most likely been a non-event
but back in 1947, baseball was america's game
that whole "baseball, hot dogs, apple pie" mantra rang true back then
jackie was up on the national stage, front and center, for all to see and judge
what he had to endure was horrific, and the temptation to fight back must have been immense
personally, i don't see how he did (or more accurately, didn't) do it
branch rickey certainly picked the right man for the job and, to be honest, he should also get more recognition for what he did
but i digress...
had jackie been a giant i would despise the fact that the giants were getting recognition
but for jackie, the individual -- regardless of what team/organization he played for -- i would stand up and applaud
just happy and proud it was us
:soapbox:

 

I dint think it's a big a deal that he caught a lot of hate and didn't retaliate in kind.
Other than the fact he's black.
It speaks less of Jackie than it does about the stupidity and evil of our society.
Jackie was a good man, how others behave.doesn't change.a good man easily.
A bad, evil, or simply dumb man who is not a man would treat people the way a racist does.
The active part of the word man is not masculinity as bot men and women are "man"
Man = mind in a spiritual sense.
Jackie was a man.
Racists fans were jungle beasts in round hats and shiny shoes.

You have seen other blacks break down when being race baited.
Robinson was from a different time and place.
Blacks weren't always so defiant.
That was worked out of them till most became docile enough for their freedom.
The wild bucks and tall poppies all lost their heads to the genetic manipulation we did of blacks here.
Of course now in the jungles of concentration cities where they are ghetto fabulized and prepared for a life of confusion, contempt and want.

White people are so dumb though.
Just like white people come from Africans so do white people over time adopt all things black to the point that whites are hated by other whites for being too much like blacks.
Racism is so dumb.
It's a race to the death, to the netherland, to hell sinking fast.
You get to the north side and as your reward you get trial by fire.
Survivors join the Borg or die trying to actually be free to choose who to serve. Your self, country, friends, family, or God. It's way better when you choose for yourself.
Either the only win is a trip to the cathacomb tombs down below where all black stones are cut down to size and polished white over years of being completely in the dark waiting for ctulhu to call.

Racism is dumb.
A little xenophobia is healthy though.

 

totally disagree
had jackie responded in kind it would have shattered everything he was trying to accomplish
jackie wasn't just a player, wasn't just a dodger -- he was the sole representative for the black man in baseball
it would have given every racist the right to play the "i told you so" card

 

No.
Do you think if Robinson was not a class act and broke down a couple of times that the racists would then be justified to play the card?
No way.
They ha no right because they are wrong.
Wrong at every turn of the situation.
And society has programmed people to think from the pov of idiotically superfial racial superiority.
For Jackie to be sorta accepted by white America he must be a perfect.
And then on only a perfect black that knows his role and shuts up and makes the best of it is tolerated.
If you weren't "one of the good blacks" you basically just another nigger back then.

Jackie was representing Jackie.
To think any other way is as inadvertently racist as saying the first Japanese player represented Asians and if he gets mad getting called a jap Kami loving Hiroshima survivor then that proves that Asians can't handle professional white man baseball.
Never mind that Asians were most likely the first whites on the planet.

My over all point was that Jackie being Jackie was not about the racists, wasn't about all other blacks. It was just about Jackie being Jackie.
A good mind will remain a good man no matter the obstacles placed on him by lesser type of men soon left to the scrapheap of history.
And their time is nigh when they will be evolutioned out.

 

we're just going to have to disagree on this one
haven't seen 42 so i don't know if it's in there
but there was a point where jackie asked rickey (and i'm paraphrasing from memory) if he wanted to know if he had the courage to fight back, and rickey said no he wanted him to have the courage not to fight back
not sure how you can say jackie wasn't representing all the other blacks

 

i plan to, maybe even tonight... not like there's anything else on direct tv