love in action is better than a showing of love i dont think dave knows the difference cuz one is for real and one is for the cameras/image one will work even if it takes a while the other one will never work but for a little while it will feel good real love is the truth even if it hurts you when you do it roberts prefers to feel and look good than actually do his job we need a manager who is willing to look bad and get mad
It is so embarrassing that this guy is the manager of the Dodgers. A clueless fucking clown. @awfulannouncing "I just wanted to clarify that Mark went out there to talk to Alex...And I was asking if I could bring in Evan at that moment. Once he already visited, he's got to face a hitter." Dave Roberts acknowledges that he didn't understand a rule, leading to a pitch clock violation. https://x.com/awfulannouncing/status/1818515745506041961
i'm almost certain he already did this in the last few years someone said it was against the Mets 2 years ago but no way any reporter will search it out maybe it was this gem https://www.sportingnews.com/au/mlb...-player-dodgers-mets/kw1hblumplgnxuqhqxmg13gw
I know I've said this before, but I'd say it everyday if I had the time... If DEI Dave is going to be lauded when the stacked roster wins (divisions), then he must be blamed when the injury-riddled roster loses. He can't be given credit during good times and excused during bad times. If he's as great a manager as some make him out to be, he'd find a way to lead the current team to wins.
I have problems with Dave but the current state of this roster and the way they are performing is Shohei Ohtani and a bunch of trash. the guys playing right now? Biggio replacement level player, Ahmed replacement level player, Kiké replacement level player, Will fucking Smith has been playing like a replacement level player since May, Pages replacement level player, Heyward replacement level player. Dodgers have 3 above average bats currently and they are Ohtani, Lux, and I guess Teoscar. Combine that with a bullpen that has completely shit the bed lately because overuse and that overuse happened because the entire starting rotation got injured/also completely shit the bed. Dodgers are currently lucky to have one above average start every time through the rotation. there has been 1 quality start in the last 35 days.
I'm not denying any of this, but over the past 8 years the Dodgers have tried to upgrade every position but one. When do they upgrade manager?
This is what a blind, totally different priorities for the bottom line FO will get you. Like buying a Ferrari and putting a Chevette engine in it. Looks stunning, put really, just a little putt-putt that won't win the race...
none of that is wrong but how much of the general malaise and slumped shoulders are a result of no competent leader or direction beyond an ass slap?
when your coach-speak is riddled with DEI the effect will be that your team morale will eventually DIE
Dave has always had the luxury of managing a team that is far and away better than the rest of the division in the regular season. All of his mistakes do not matter when the Dodgers win a lot of games based on pure talent and build 10-12 game leads in the division. This year is starting to look a little different with the Padres 4.5 games behind and Arizona 5 games behind. SD has a really easy schedule the rest of the way while the Dodgers play a lot more teams over .500. This is where losing the 5-0 game to Houston because you brought in Evan when your starter was dealing is costly. Using Treinen to close when he’s 9/18 on save attempts since becoming a Dodger is foolish. He clearly has shown he’s not comfortable in that role since becoming a Dodger. Costly loss vs SD. Using Ramirez when Kelly was available in a 1-2 game vs SF and letting the game get out of reach and then bringing Kelly in when it’s a 6 run game. Costly. Blowing a 9-3 lead to Detroit because you brought out a guy that had no business being on the mound to start the 9th and allowed Detroit to build momentum and comeback to win that game. These are just recent games where very questionable managing cost the Dodgers three games that should have been locks and 1 game that was still winnable and got punted. Dave can get away with this bullshit year after year because the Dodgers still easily win the division but not this year. The lead should be about 7-8 games right now but it’s only 4.5 and SD is gaining steam while the Dodgers lick their wounds.
Haven't seen any games and don't know what you guys are talking about but I'm liking all posts that trash Dave
I can't really chime in with anything extra here, everything has been said and I agree with most. HOWEVER, there is one other thing that is much harder to gauge and could be nothing (or something), but I often wonder about how engaged or motivated he is to succeed. It's pretty common in standard jobs (and there is data) that shows most people kind of just keep the wheels spinning after they've been in a role for 3-5 years. Not really super motivated to do their best, look for ways to get better, perform better, etc. Dave is in year 8. Since 2000 (and somebody check me if I'm off) there are only 4 managers who have served 8 years or longer - Bochy, Scioscia, Maddon and Francona. All-time that number appears to be 15 managers. This could also be an element at play.
I could absolutely see this. Afterall, everyone is getting paid. DEI Dave has his lucrative salary and extension, the superstars have mega contracts, the role players are still getting millions to play a kids game, and the turnstiles, merch sales, and TV contracts are filling the coffers for ownership. All they have to do is achieve a minimal level of success like winning the division, they break out the champagne and goggles in the locker room, and the casual fans say, "Yeah, that's my team, another winning season." And next year they tee it up again. But I'll see that and raise you one. I also think the team's (and the manager's) wokeness plays a part. I'm going to generalize here, but I feel that the subsection of our society that is "woke" is also the same group that doesn't believe that those who work the hardest should be rewarded for that work. That they're entitled to the best in life simply because they exist, not that they have to earn it. That everyone should get a participation trophy. That bad history should be erased instead of studied to understand how to avoid it in the future. And that becoming a world champion will be given to them eventually, instead of having to fight for it every day to make it happen. I'm not saying every player fits this mold, but when the overriding attitude of the organization SCREAMS this - and without a manager in the dugout who can fire up the players - everyone eventually slips into "just collecting a paycheck" mode.
yeah meritocracy is a thing of the past if you don't have the right skin color or sexual preference you can't be a figurehead like dave or any of the mayors, DA's, police and fire chiefs etc. in this country tom bradley was mayor for 50 years or some shit and dude flailed on every major issue but the biggest was mass transit and he was probably paid off still he had zero vision just like the current mayor who will probably be on the job for eternity and she seems intent on keeping the homeless bureaucracy intact davey is like a lame ass politician that knows he really doesn't even have to do a good job let alone a great one and he's going to stay employed hasn't he said he wants to manage the Dodgers the rest of his life? but i think he sees himself as one of the best in the game and will be expecting Counsell money or better and that could be interesting
No it's not much of an accomplishment. But to be honest, losing a game to the A's or some of the other losses this year don't mean a whole lot to me. Neither do the streaks - the hot streaks early, the losing streaks more recently. The one thing that tells me all I need to know about this team is that after getting embarrassed by Arizona in the NLDS last year, they let the Diamondbacks come into LA and take 4 of 6. Absolutely no heart. No pride. No will to avenge. No chance of going far this October, if they even make it to the playoffs. And that starts and ends with the manager.
The only possible explanation for DEI Dave to bat Kike in the cleanup spot is that he believes he's getting one over on the Phils. You see, they might mistake him for a power hitter and play their outfielders deep - then Kike's Texas-leaguers can drop-in in front of them all game. By the way, this is akin to the fat kid standing behind the narrow pole during hide-and-seek and thinking, "They'll never find me."
The DEI brain rot is so bad from believing their own lies that they start believing in fantasies that break the laws of physics. "What if I fool them into thinking Kike is a power hitter like back when he was on steroids so we can get some easy plop singles" BTW I dont think we need the FIRE ROBERTS thread anymore. Its become dodgers standard time, the clock has been stuck at midnight for a good while now. Every Dodgers game = Fire Roberts thread.
