DODGERS The ROLLINS Thread

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  1. irish

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    Oh, I paid attention..and Rollins hit between .277 and .296 every year during the time in which he had primed/respectable protection behind him in the lineup, so with you saying that " he's never being one to hit for average " now I have to question your education.
     
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    .267 career hitter, .327 career OBP. Not good for a leadoff hitter. He's a HR hitter in the body of a leadoff hitter and he should consider hitting adjustments.
     
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    So you typed all that to say that you were wrong about Rollins never being a guy who hit for average, yes?
     
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    thanks Mr. McGuire
     
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    And considering that he saw 4.15 pitches per plate appearance just last season, suggesting that he make adjustments makes no sense either.

    I've watched the fringe hall of famer spit on quite a bit of 1st pitches this spring. I think he can handle himself.
     
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    I am not wrong, .267 career average isn't good, especially for a leadoff hitter
     
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    It wouldn't be that hard of a change, just don't uppercut everything.
     
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    Lol Quit tryin to change the topic..it's sad. You said Rollins has never been one to hit for average and you're wrong. Period.
     
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    Translation: I was wrong about Rollins never being a guy who hit for average...now, I'm gonna try my hand at being Rollins' hitting coach.

    :chief:
     
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    nope
     
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    :argue::bitchslap::maniac::fork::snap out of it:
     
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    You're both wrong.

    Rollins hit between .277 and .296 for a span of 5 years, which is what passes for "hitting for average" these days. Those were his age 25 through 29 seasons (i.e., a long time ago.) Since then he has not made it to .270 and has been .252 or BELOW 5 of those 6 seasons. So NO, he does not hit for average, anymore. All that being said, it doesn't mean shit because OBP is more important, especially in the leadoff spot. Rollins has never been higher than .349 OBP, and his career mark is .327, which is not that sparkling for a leadoff hitter.

    FWIW, I tend to agree with Chiefs, Rollins average is less than desirable in the leadoff spot, and his OBP is not that great either. However, I expect to hear a ration of shit from b2b simply because he has never ever been wrong on the internet.
     
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    Except here are the origins of this back and forth:


    ..which is simply stating that maybe he could do quite a bit better than his recent seasons because he's usually a slow starter ( including the spring).

    The last line is a nod to Rollins not having much protection in Philly since 2008. 2009 was the last season in which both Utley and Howard were still performing up to snuff and in tandem, so Rollins is now in a position where he has high level hitters ( who are primed and still producing) behind him in Puig, AGon, Kendrick and even Crawford when he gets rolling as we've seen. There's not a easy out in the lineup, so he'll also have quite a few guys from the bottom of the lineup on base when he's due up and that helps get pitches to hit as well.

    Do I expect Rollins to go back to being " .296 Rollins "..no. But .280-ish? Sure. He could do that if he gets off to a good start. He's older now, but he's obviously still in pretty good shape having stole nearly 30 bags last year and we can assume that he has some cuts left ( 17 homers last year - 11 coming away from Philly's park).




    Well, after sorting through a bunch of your bs, I do remember telling you that Rollins would get the leadoff spot and that Howie would be protecting AGon, so there's at least that. Lol He basically saw 4.2 pitches per plate appearance last year, so his approach is that of your typical leadoff man.

    Chefs' remarks have been pretty much a shit show since the beginning. 1st not knowing how to piece together a sentence that makes sense and then his failed venture into being a fringe hall of famer's hitting coach. With you being the guy that said Juan Uribe should be protecting AGon from the cleanup spot, it makes sense for you to co-sign.
     
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    I laughed to myself the first time you used that "fringe hall of famer" crap. On what fucking planet??? I have nearly the same chance as Rollins of making the Hall.

    Gleeful that you were right that Rollings got the leadoff spot? It was mostly by default, and considering that Mattingly bestowed that honor on him hardly means it's the right decision.

    Rollins hasn't hit ".280-ish" since he was 29. You can continue to believe that it was because he didn't have much protection but you'd be wrong, again. Since 2008 Philly hasn't changed rank hardly at all in terms of batting average as a team. Coming to LA won't change his average much, except he may get more gap hits.

    Looks like I was correct. You've never been wrong on the internet.

    :facepalm:
     
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    For a guy who said he's gonna continue to play after this year and go for 3,000 hits, that's exactly what he's gonna be..perhaps even assured a spot in this day and age.



    Regardless of team BA, the Phillies took a huge shot in presence when Utley and Howard started spiraling downward and it reflected in the win/loss column as well.

    and ummm..Chefs is the one that was on about Rollins' ability to lead off..not me. Nobody forced you to jump in and go wild over a topic that you were wrong about back in December. I'm not concerned with Rollins' leading off..it's done..that's the plan for now and I told you that's what would happen when we 1st got him back when you were all on " Kendrick leading off " for some reason when we had just lost Kemp and Hanley and we needed a righty bat like Kendrick's protecting AGon.

    There wasn't any brilliance on display when I predicted that..I was only being reasonable. I suppose the non-shit ration was you saying that Juan Uribe should protect AGon, yes? smh Yeah, Uribe protecting AGon sounds reasonable..
     
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    I'll tell you what, the day he gets elected to the Hall I'll kiss your ass, and give you an hour to draw a crowd. There is no way in hell he gets elected. He's going to have to average nearly 150 hits a year for 5 more years to make 3000. And THAT is the only hope he has to make it in, he has no other stats worthy of hall election, none. You are borderline delusional. But you still have never been wrong on the internet, so you've got that going for you.
     
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    Rollins needs 5 good more years to reach 3000 hits, it's not happening. A .267 career average isn't putting him in the hall of fame when the other statistics aren't there.
     
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    With the way your predictions have been going..I'm gonna go ahead and pass in advance.
     

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