DODGERS/RED SOX Blockbuster

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by doyerfan, Aug 24, 2012.

  1. SC_Ed

    SC_Ed DSP Legend Damned

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    Let me bring some sensibility to this issue.

    If we are just talking recent memory which it seems we are.

    Carson had a great couple of years pro bowler but as guys get older they get injured. He is still a highly servicable qb in the nfl.

    Matt Leinart's attitude screwed him. Toss into that his injuries and 99 out of 100 would call him a bust. Rightly so, however, if you look at how he has performed on the field since his last year in Arizona and he could have started anywhere. Injuries have killed him but his numbers are good.

    I think anyone would agree Matt Cassell is a slightly above avg starting QB. Albeit a system QB.

    Sanchez has been screwed by shitty play calling. If you look at his career they have never let him throw downfield. For all of his interceptions last season how many hit the receiver in his hands and were tipped into the hands of a safety or corner playing zone? I'll save you the research it was about 75 percent. All of his throws are underneath. He would kill in a system that used him properly.

    Barkley is better than any of those guys and to call him a potential bust shows they have no idea about football.
     
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    #thefuckisthisabout ?
     
  3. SC_Ed

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    ^ read the previous page.
     
  4. LAFord

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    Oh I see...a highjacked thread lol, wow really highjacked in a bad way! fuckin moderator is suckin balls! :whistle:
     
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    Sorry to get off the subject, but did anyone know that for his career, Adrian Gonzalez is batting .218 in Dodger Stadium???
    It must be a road game thing, then.
     
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    After I read the entire post I went back to that line and got a good 10 minute chuckle out of it.

    Carson did have a really good couple of year to which I thought he was gonna be great but he got injured and has been extremely mediocre since. Carson has literally only had 2 good seasons out 8 years as a pro and is very mediocre as a pro now.

    Matt Leinart is a fucking scrub through and through, huge bust. Not just an attitude thing.

    Matt Cassell is FAR from a slightly above average starting quarterback. I'd rank him in my bottom 1/3 of starting quarterbacks.
    Who's better?
    Aaron Rodgers
    Tom Brady
    Peyton Manning
    Eli Manning
    Drew Brees
    Ben Rapistburger
    Philip Rivers
    Jay Cutler
    Tony Romo
    Mike Vick
    Matt Ryan
    Matt Stafford
    Matt Shaub
    Cam Newton
    Josh Freeman
    Alex Smith
    Andy Dalton
    Joe Flacco
    Sam Bradford
    Carson Palmer

    Mark Sanchez just a joke. Show some objectivity dude it.

    The saddest thing about your post is easily "Barkley is better than any of those guys and to call him a potential bust shows they have no idea about football." by FAR. That is the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. Seriously, I'm not just trying to be a dick. I'm not saying this because Barkley isn't better than all those buy and they have almost nothing to do with him. I'm saying this because "to call him a potential bust shows they have no idea about football", that is the epitome of football retardation. EVERYONE is a potential bust, QB's bust all the time and to say that he has absolutely zero bust potential is fucking insane. Andrew Luck arguably the greatest QB prospect ever has bust potential, albeit a smaller chance than others he can still bust. Everybody is a potential bust.

    The funny thing is I was just being a dick and not serious at all with my previous post and you come with this extremely serious post and it's a complete joke then you tell me I have no clue about football lol. Keep on smoking brother.
     
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    Ben Rapistburger :laff:
     
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    Well, i'm hoping it was the Dodger pitching+Dodger stadium that contained him. For most of the years as a Padre, he was really the only threat in the lineup and we knew how to pitch around him and make him hit stuff he probably didn't want to.
     
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    I seriously dislike Leinart personally I think he's a dick but he had a decent rookie season and then started 7 games since? His attitude is clearly a factor. Not to mention his complete inability to stay healthy.

    Anyway about Sanchez he has an avg 6.5 yards per attempt which means most of his throws are thrown under safety coverages and linebackers in a cover 2. To that add shitty receivers and you get a lot of tips which leads to int's. Its pretty simple. Not to mention he's been sacked 92 times in 3 years. I think he needs a better system to be successful.

    Cassel isn't good but he is slightly above avg. he has an 82 career rating which like it or not is slightly above avg.

    Of course everyone has potential to be a bust but Luck and Barkley have about as much as Peyton Manning. He will be the no.1 pick and will flounder with a shitty team but from what I've seen at USC he's the best QB by far to come out in a long time.

    Wasn't trying to be a dick either but you have to give credit where it's due.
     
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    Matt Cassel's QBR rating last year was 48.8 and average is 50, so yeah below average quarterback.

    Mark Sanchez QBR was 33.6 so he is an extremely shitty QB and it's not because he doesn't get to throw the ball deep. Also since Sanchez can't even complete 5 yard passes with a piss poor accuracy of 56.7%.

    Lienart is complete shit dude, period.

    Does Barkley have as high a bust chance as Ryan Leaf? See what I did there

    I wish I subscribed to PFF right now so I could show you just how pathetic Sanchez really is.
     
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    Totally irrelevant discussion, because other players have nothing to do with Matt Barkley. Literally zero.
     
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    I can't wait to see who we trade the Red Sox for this year.
     
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    Probably we'll send em Joc Pederson, Zach Lee, Corey Seager, Yasiel Puig, and 100 million for John Lackey and Ryan Dumpster.
     
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    this trade's starting to look like a total fail for the dodgers
    i think we'll look back and see a-gon, crawford, beckett, greinke, and hanley all as bad moves in the end
     
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    Hanley for Eovaldi was a great move, no way that can be bad. I also think Greinke was a good move as well. If AGon just doesn't have power anymore then it will be a bad one.
     
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    it seems like he's always injured
    what's the point of having a star if he never plays?
    i don't think he'll live up to the contract, but we'll see
    it seems like none of those three are really producing
     
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    dude...please look up their stats before you post this stuff. Please. I don't want to go off here, but man where are you getting that information from?
    Punto playing better than he ever has, has the highest BA on the team...around .330. He's also been invaluable because of so many injuries and his ability to play almost any position and play it well.
    AGon is having a fantastic season so far, .316 avg, leading team in HRs, RBI, name it. While you were posting this, he was going 3-3 with a double, HR and 3 RBis, with 2 walks.
    Crawford is absolutely killing it and has been the best leadoff hitter we've had in a few years...since a healthy Furcal long ago. He's also tied with AGon for HRs.

    That trade so far has been great. Without the 3 guys above, I cannot imagine how far back this miserable and crippled team would be.
     
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    a-gon's off to a pretty good start
    crawford hitting under .300 with 5 HR and 13 RBI - nothing special
    there's no way punto's going to keep hitting like this - he's always been garbage
    beckett was 0-5 with a 5.19 era this year before going down with an injury
    considering all the money they pay for those guys, i don't think it was worth it
     
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    How is this trade looking like "a total fail"? A-Gon is one of the best hitters in the game, Crawford and Punto have been extremely valuable, and well, you can't win them all with Beckett. Too much value is being put on unproven guys in Webster and De La Rosa. The Dodgers stack up on pitching prospects and with the addition of another solid starter, the Dodger rotation would be set for many years. Not to mention, it's May and the Red Sox are banking off ridiculous over-achievements from Buchholz, Lester, and Napoli. I don't get you guys sometimes.
     
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