I think you're right, both are gone and probably a guy or two that we weren't expecting. The plan was to get younger and they've acquired a solid core to build from.
I say the entire coaching staff besides maybe Honeycutt should go. Not their fault but just do it. Carl, Dre, Howie...gone. to start.
Leaving runners on base inning after inning and falling asleep in the field. Shitty way to lose a game if this holds up. Inexcusable
Winning the NL West isn't much of a feat. The Rockies, Padres, and Dbacks would have no chance in any division...they're bad teams. We just have to beat out an injury riddled Giants team that has half the talent we have...not much of an accomplishment at all.
and if the Cubs win we become the newly minted most pathetic tema and laughing stock w the biggest payroll always been a fear of mine because i too loved to laugh at other teams in that situation