The let's bitch about KAZMIR thread

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  1. CapnTreee

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    I get to see today's game because At&T will give me Angels ball

    Kazmir sucks. Same old suck.
    but then it was nice to see that Weaver sucks worse

    SVS makes up for shitty fielding turning Trout's hit into a 3B.. OK the bat is nice
     
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    I know, early, but is Kazmir starting to worry anyone?
     
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    no
     
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    Aside from giving up a lot of hits and runs, the staff looks fine.
    I think if we can score about 7 runs a game, we'll be fine.
     
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    Not in the slightest.
     
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    Remember a couple of years ago when a team won the World Series in spring training?


    Yeah, me neither.
     
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  7. CapnTreee

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    Nah man a 17.18 ERA means nothing.

    Until it happens after opening day.


    Fucker best take a grinder to that rust of his and Now!!
     
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    spring pitching stats can be deceptive
    especially early on
    sometimes pitchers are working on one pitch, and throw nothing else
    sometimes a location
    other times just throwing strikes
    same can be said about hitters teeing off late in games against lower minor league pitchers
    just my :2cents:
     
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  9. CapnTreee

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    Yeah all early stats can be deceiving .. but 17.18 ERA's from a journeyman pitcher who has been kicked all around the league isn't awe inspiring.
     
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    I guess my concern is that absent Greinke and Ryu, we paid him to essentially compete for the 2nd SP in the rotation with Maeda. Now it looks like Maeda is the clear 2 with Kazmir being....well who knows at this point.

    Anyway, just my 2 cents.
     
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    Still too early to worry about him honestly.
     
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    Kershaw usually gets shelled every spring, how does that end up working out?

    Baseball players don't randomly just suck. Well, unless you're Andruw Jones. He'll probably be consistent with the numbers he's put up the last 2-3 years.
     
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    Yeah, of course it is...but you can't even joke around...
    What can you possibly tell after a week?
    Except keep dat Eckersley looking porno 'stache dude Murphy around somewhere close. Dude can rake.
    Plus it's my dog's name...so somethin' going on there.
     
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  14. CapnTreee

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    Umm cowboy did you just associate the performance characteristics of one repeat Cy Young winning Clayton Kershaw to one weak ass rubber armed journeyman Scott Kazmir?!?!?!

    And, as if that alone doesn't thoroughly invalidate 'whatever' opinion may follow, please note that Kazmir does not have that same history. In fact Kazmir does have a history, that of sucking. That of giving up long balls.. to shortstops. That of losing focus in the 2nd or 3rd inning.

    OK we agree that he'll get better, please please please... but under no conditions will I equate anything Kershaw does to anything Kazmir does.

    Thoroughbred versus jack mule. Apples and bananas.
     
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    Kazmir also has a history of being pretty good.
    Ups and downs.
    Cueto didn't go to SF with a spotless resume...quiet as kept Cueto got shit on yesterday, gave up 5 runs in 1 inning of work.
     
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  16. CapnTreee

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    LOL about nose candy loving Cueto.

    He's gonna need to show something good this season to dispel his own set of 'finished' rumors
     
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    And with a monster price tag around his neck...in a place where they know all about big signing bust, Barry Zito, Cain
     
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    .. it couldn't happen in a better location..
     
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  19. Fall Winslow

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    Nooooooooo, let's not bitch about Kazmir


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    Kazmir attempting to maintain positive outlook amid frustration
    by Matthew Moreno | Dodger Blue — 3 hours ago

    With Scott Kazmir making his second start with the Los Angeles Dodgers on Wednesday, it was an opportunity to extract some revenge on the club who cut ties with him in June 2011. Kazmir’s tenure with the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim came to an unceremonious end after 35 starts.

    Acquired in a trade from the Tampa Bay Rays in August 2009, Kazmir posted an 11-17 record and 5.31 ERA with Anaheim. Injuries played a role in the lefty’s decline as Kazmir was placed on the disabled list three times while with the Angels.

    His lone start during the 2011 season came in April when he allowed five runs, issued two walks and hit two batters in 1.2 innings pitched. Kazmir was 1-0 with a 0.60 ERA and 1.00 WHIP against the Angels last season in two starts (15 innings pitched).

    However, his former club got the better of the matchup on Wednesday at Tempe Diablo Stadium. Spotted an early 1-0 lead, Kazmir threw 36 pitches, issued two walks and allowed three runs in the bottom of the first inning.

    He threw 20 more pitches in the second, and was lifted after allowing an RBI single to Albert Pujols, which came on the heels of a Mike Trout RBI triple — albeit Scott Van Slyke didn’t do his pitcher any favors in fielding Trout’s hit.

    Kazmir threw a total of 56 pitches, retired five of 13 batters faced, issued two walks and allowed five runs on one triple and five singles. Despite the rough outing, Kazmir told Kelli Tennant of SportsNet LA he was pleased with certain aspects:

    “I actually felt good. The fastball was coming out and the location was good. There were just a couple bad breaks, hopefully I’m getting it all out of the way early. It’s frustrating not getting the results I want. But, I have to continue to look at the positives, it’s still early and I just have to keep at it. I just get pissed seeing all the shit posted about me on DSP.”​

    The last sentence apparently hit at nerve with Kazmir, as he went to Twitter to vent:
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    Kazmir had echoed a similar message after his debut with the Dodgers last week. However, the 32 year old was critical of his fastball, having allowed two runs on six hits in 2.0 innings against the Texas Rangers.

    Kazmir did succeed in limiting the damage in his first spring outing as he induced two inning-ending double plays. His next opportunity to atone for two shaky starts is expected to come March 14 when the Dodgers host the Milwaukee Brewers at Camelback Ranch.

    As it currently stands, Kazmir projects to follow Clayton Kershaw in a Dodgers’ rotation that’s looking to overcome the production lost with Zack Greinke now in Arizona, and temporary losses of Brett Anderson and Hyun-Jin Ryu.
     
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