MLB NEWS/RUMORS Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by irish, Nov 2, 2017.

Tags:
?

If the Dodgers could acquire one player at the deadline, who would you prefer?

  1. Machado

    10 vote(s)
    43.5%

  2. Front line starter (degrom, thor, et al)

    13 vote(s)
    56.5%
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Page 287 of 360
  1. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    53,327
    Likes Received:
    40,979
    Trophy Points:
    278
    if this is true, the deal is 100% off
     
    irish, Jul 18, 2018
    #5721
    ColoradoKidWitGame likes this.
  2. ColoradoKidWitGame

    ColoradoKidWitGame DSP Legend Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 2013
    Messages:
    11,710
    Likes Received:
    10,087
    Trophy Points:
    198
    Yup, best pitcher in our system and he+Diaz is a huge freaking return.
     
    ColoradoKidWitGame, Jul 18, 2018
    #5722
    irish likes this.
  3. ColoradoKidWitGame

    ColoradoKidWitGame DSP Legend Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 2013
    Messages:
    11,710
    Likes Received:
    10,087
    Trophy Points:
    198
    One country heard from
    Jon Heyman
    the medical holdup in the Machado trade isn't over top OF prospect Yusniel Diaz, the key prospect in the trade and one real name that's out there & confirmed. since it's apparently over a complementary piece (at least compared to Diaz), the chances to work it out are much better.
     
    ColoradoKidWitGame, Jul 18, 2018
    #5723
    irish likes this.
  4. spanky006

    spanky006 DSP Legend

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    1,449
    Likes Received:
    672
    Trophy Points:
    153
    Yea, if all that comes true then we will need Lux.....but lets be realistic. But focusing on the middle inf and not worrying about 1st or 3b, he is blocked. Seager played a full season in 2016 and got hurt some time last year, then chose to rehab instead of TJ. Yes in hind sight he should have had TJ in the off season but they didn't. The kid is 24 years old and has had no other injuries. With TJ success rate of 90 now days and he is not a pitcher, im pretty confident he will be fine. If Manny is signed then Lux is not needed because you have the middle inf locked up. But lets say Seager has problems, ok Kiki is only 26 years old and has proven to be a valuable commodity. Im pretty sure when he is a FA at 28 he will get an extension or be resigned. Back to Muncy, who is 27 years old and probably could be locked up for 3 - 5 years real cheap. Now we are back to Taylor, he didn't play alot from 2014-2016 because he was a journeyman. MGT gave him a chance to be full time and he responded with a full season last year. He has not looked good and if he is a regular on the DL then MGT might let him walk. If Manny is signed blocked might not be the right word but expendable yes.
     
    spanky006, Jul 18, 2018
    #5724
  5. Bluezoo

    Bluezoo Among the Pantheon

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    27,588
    Likes Received:
    21,794
    Trophy Points:
    228
    And tbh, even with all cursing at them, and the badass scumbag rep they have cultivated by being previous douchebags, why should they take damaged goods?
    Did the FO think they had the same MRI staff as we did when we gave Jason Schmitt the mother lode?
    Didn't they know?
     
    Bluezoo, Jul 18, 2018
    #5725
  6. Chiefdodgerslkrs24

    Chiefdodgerslkrs24 Among the Pantheon

    Joined:
    Apr 2014
    Messages:
    18,475
    Likes Received:
    6,276
    Trophy Points:
    208
    Chiefdodgerslkrs24, Jul 18, 2018
    #5726
    Gebbeth likes this.
  7. Gebbeth

    Gebbeth DSP Legend

    Joined:
    Jul 2013
    Messages:
    8,817
    Likes Received:
    6,162
    Trophy Points:
    173
    What a bunch of two timing douche bags. If this falls through, I would believe going after DeGrom would be a priority(?)
     
    Gebbeth, Jul 18, 2018
    #5727
  8. CapnTreee

    CapnTreee Guest

    Yeah knowing DeGrom is in play does make that an attractive option
     
    CapnTreee, Jul 18, 2018
    #5728
  9. ColoradoKidWitGame

    ColoradoKidWitGame DSP Legend Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 2013
    Messages:
    11,710
    Likes Received:
    10,087
    Trophy Points:
    198
    The Orioles are notorious for this though. They red flag guys when others don't and rarely does it come back and be proven right(only does it come to fruition when they tried to initially overpay for someone that everyone knew was shit). This is why the Machado rumors had the running tagalong of "but it's the Orioles". They do this both in trades and with FA and the belief is they do it for leverage. It is a scummy way to do business by a franchise that is known for ownership interference and being a total shitshow behind the scenes.
     
    ColoradoKidWitGame, Jul 18, 2018
    #5729
  10. Bluezoo

    Bluezoo Among the Pantheon

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    27,588
    Likes Received:
    21,794
    Trophy Points:
    228
    Who are the two timing douchebags then...the Orioles? Why? Would you take a package that had damaged goods, honestly.
    I know the info isn't all available yet, but if the FO knew one of the kids was damaged ( and they certainly should have), then they appear to be the two timers.
    Where am I going wrong here?
     
    Bluezoo, Jul 18, 2018
    #5730
  11. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    53,327
    Likes Received:
    40,979
    Trophy Points:
    278
    also now gives angelos a reason to pull out...
     
    irish, Jul 18, 2018
    #5731
  12. doyerfan

    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    26,713
    Likes Received:
    13,016
    Trophy Points:
    228
    I think part of it is that the orioles are notorious for doing this even if a player really isn’t hurt. I agree that teams should be wary of trading for players who are hurt, but this is more about the Orioles rep about being disfunctional and having a history of using medicals to hold up a deal
     
    doyerfan, Jul 18, 2018
    #5732
    fsudog21, Bluezoo, irish and 1 other person like this.
  13. darth550

    darth550 Baba Yaga

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    5,602
    Likes Received:
    4,311
    Trophy Points:
    173
    Ask Preller?
     
    darth550, Jul 18, 2018
    #5733
    Bluezoo and dodgers like this.
  14. Bluezoo

    Bluezoo Among the Pantheon

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    27,588
    Likes Received:
    21,794
    Trophy Points:
    228
    I agree, if the med report shows nil. But if it does show something, then no matter what they have done in the past, imo, is irrelevant. Maybe the info will back up what you say. But...
    Damaged is damaged.
     
    Bluezoo, Jul 18, 2018
    #5734
  15. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    53,327
    Likes Received:
    40,979
    Trophy Points:
    278
    to go w/the previous reports...

    Medical reviews reportedly holding up Machado to Dodgers
    by Jeff Todd | MLB Trade Rumors — 24 minutes ago

    [​IMG]

    There’s a “possible snag” in the reported agreement between the Dodgers and Orioles that would send star infielder Manny Machado out west, according to Steve Phillips of MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM (via Twitter). Precise details aren’t known, but it seems that some concerns arose in the physicals of the prospects that would go to Baltimore in the swap.

    That said, the new wrinkle doesn’t by any means preclude the deal from ultimately being tweaked and coming together. Fancred’s Jon Heyman tweets that the holdup doesn’t involve outfielder Yusniel Diaz, the centerpiece of the return going to Baltimore. Rather, it’s an issue with a more “complementary” piece, per Heyman, which creates more optimism that the trade will ultimately be agreed upon and pushed through as had been widely reported.

    While all indications are that the two organizations came together for an All-Star Game deal involving Machado, there has, of course, yet to be any formal announcement. And many have cautioned not to assume anything until all the boxes are checked. The Orioles, after all, have blown up several deals — trades and free-agent agreements — over issues identified in physicals. Baltimore’s medical medical standards are notoriously stingy, and today’s reports only serve as the latest entry in a fairly lengthy history of such hiccups.

    If the snag ultimately proves to be insurmountable, then it could be that the Machado situation will return to the forefront of the trade deadline market development. It has seemed for several days that Machado would head out of the All-Star break in a different uniform, leaving about two weeks for other movement to occur. That doesn’t appear quite as certain now, though, which means that clubs who’d believed themselves to be runners up will likely hold off on making other deals.

    To that end, USA Today’s Bob Nightengale tweeted last night that the Brewers’ offer was considered by the Orioles to be the second-strongest proposal they received. The Phillies, Diamondbacks, Yankees and Indians are among the other teams that were prominently connected to Machado.​
     
    irish, Jul 18, 2018
    #5735
  16. Gebbeth

    Gebbeth DSP Legend

    Joined:
    Jul 2013
    Messages:
    8,817
    Likes Received:
    6,162
    Trophy Points:
    173
    They pull this crap all the time and their word cannot be trusted.

    Players are injured all the time because they play all the time. But you trade for the talent and unless his arm falls off, deals for prospects don’t get called off for this stuff. Plus the key prospect is apparently not the player they are hedging on because of an “injury”.

    It’s complete O’s bullshit yet again.
     
    Gebbeth, Jul 18, 2018
    #5736
    ColoradoKidWitGame and Bluezoo like this.
  17. doyerfan

    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    26,713
    Likes Received:
    13,016
    Trophy Points:
    228
    Damn, if it is Dustin May, pretty crazy that the trade offer is Yusniel+May

    According to a MASN reporter (more reputable than others) May is not in the deal. Who knows. I want this over with
     
    doyerfan, Jul 18, 2018
    #5737
    Fall Winslow, ColoradoKidWitGame and Bluezoo like this.
  18. Bluezoo

    Bluezoo Among the Pantheon

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    27,588
    Likes Received:
    21,794
    Trophy Points:
    228
    They have a history of using medicals as a holdup and they proved to be bullshit? That is different then, and the commissioner should be involved.
     
    Bluezoo, Jul 18, 2018
    #5738
  19. darth550

    darth550 Baba Yaga

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    5,602
    Likes Received:
    4,311
    Trophy Points:
    173
    Yeah, but an X-Ray or an MRI is what it is. Neither side can lie about that.
     
    darth550, Jul 18, 2018
    #5739
    Bluezoo likes this.
  20. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    53,327
    Likes Received:
    40,979
    Trophy Points:
    278
    potato, potatto
    they're both annoying, self-righteous and bad at their jobs
    half racist
     
    irish, Jul 18, 2018
    #5740
    ColoradoKidWitGame likes this.
Page 287 of 360
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page