NEWS/RUMORS/DISCUSSION Thread

Ryu is #3. Wood is #4 and we still have McCarthy (gag) for the neext 3 years. Anderson is gone after his recent failure. Losing 2, 3 or even 4 games in such a short post season career is bad but 7? Irish we've been going back n forth about post season failure and you like Price???????????????

 

I thought ERA doesn't mean shit these days? Price is really good but he ain't no Kershaw and Kersh has a win as a starter, lol.

 

Greinke gave up 12 earned runs in 16 innings in the post season before joining the Dodgers. Just because a guy's struggled doesn't mean he's gonna keep struggling. In this scenario Price would also be going from the AL to the NL and you know what that usually means.

Price is going to the highest bidder and if the Dodgers don't get Greinke re-signed I have a hard time believing the Cubs would bid more for Price. They have business with Arrieta coming up.

 

ERA still has value. " Wins " is what gets frowned upon nowadays.

For instance, last year with the Tigers Price had 1 start in the post. He pitched 8 innings of 5 hit ball and gave up 2 runs, but got the " loss " because the Tigers' offense didn't show up against Bud Norris. Tigers scored 1 run and it came after Price had exited the game.

 

You've got 6 more chances to justify the other losses . A loss by any other name is still a loss.

 

Just to be clear, that wasn't a justification. The contract he receives on the open market will justify his value.

Care to take a guess as to what teams will put in front of him in terms of contract value...since he's a nothin? He's getting more than Greinke.

 

Judging Price based on 6 or 7 starts would be hilariously silly.

He's the 3rd best lefty in baseball behind Kershaw and Sale.

 

Well actually timing of contracts has as much to do with the amounts as his talents. Don't get me wrong Price is great but I don't think he'll sign here or even if we go after him. Joe Maddon has the inside track. IMO I don't think we are going after anyone of the big ticket guys (other than Greinke). I know nobody wants to hear that but we got Urias, DeLeon, Holmes and Buehler on the horizon and if you have 4 or even 5 guys with 4, 5 or 6 year deals where's the room?

 

Not dissing his talent but he's signing with the Cubs. The whole conversation we were having is the disappointments of our post seasons and having a guy with barely any success there is a point of contention. 6 or 7 in the playoffs isn't silly, now if we were talking regular season obviously not. Performing in big games is the standard like it or not.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/priceda01.shtml

 

Money is the inside track. And regardless of timing Price would still be looking at 180-200MM this off-season. The Nats didn't even really need Scherzer, but what happens is teams make room for stellar arms.

And signing Price actually makes more sense than re-signing Greinke because he's younger than Greinke and he'll take a deal with an opt clause in it after the 3rd year. Greinke's probably done with the opt out clauses and will likely be locked in for the next 5 years for better or worse. Price opting out after the 3rd year would be perfect timing for established youngsters like Urias, DeLeon and Holmes. Buehler had Tommy John. Nobody can be sure of what that means for his future.

 

So why do contracts keep getting bigger? 6 years deals even 10 years ago weren't triple digits. Greinke is lights out versus the Western division which makes him a better option than Price.

 

Dude if you sign everyone there won't be any spots in the rotation and the FO is not going to eat monies anymore mark my words. Fair enough on the wins stat you're correct but I guess it was more shocking to me that he has the record.

 

Regardless of the size, he would still lead the way in terms of earning power. The point is he'll arguably be the most sought after guy...which not the picture you paint.

 

No read back I said he's signing in Chicago and I even wrote that he's great but we aren't even going after him I firmly believe that.

 

I thought the Guggs had the cash to win now and win later. We're not giving up any of our prospects to sign a FA like Price. And he gives you the backup in case none of those prospects amount to anything, which is a possibility, or injuries like we had with Ryu.

 

Fair enough, so then how did you get to the point where you were killing him over his post season starts?

 

One should not assume, or really even dream for that matter, of the FO signing both Greinke and Price.

If we're lucky we'll get Greinke and Zimmermann, but even Zimmermann's probably gonna command at least 80 million.

 

Irish and I were discussing post season failure and I pointed out that Price wasn't successful there and yet the board for the most part wants him here. Truth be told I was losing steam as well, lol.