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If the Dodgers could acquire one player at the deadline, who would you prefer?

  1. Machado

    43.5%
  2. Front line starter (degrom, thor, et al)

    56.5%
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  1. Dodgers99

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    You are pretty spot on with that number, $135M + MadBum $12M option = $147M

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...b1JCi5QPTUyhTACCAPd7Kx_Jw/edit#gid=1947418443

    Will be interesting to see if they use him to try to off load money or acquire assets.
     
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    It has at the bottom an estimated 14.5M in benefits so I was not sure what that was taking into account, but yeah they have got a lot of money committed(I think that is arb raises). Bumgarner is said to want to stay in SF, so I wonder if they would really want to trade him. I have talked about how their farm had improved this season, but going over some end of the season reports and a lot of folks seem to be really mixed. Bart is a superstar in the mold of a Posey 2.0(fuck), but the rest of their system has a ways to go and is filled with mostly second tier starters and bench guys. It would be interesting to see what an outsider would think needs to be done with this team.
     
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    Speaking of interesting off seasons ahead, the Diamondbacks are another team to keep an eye on. The D'Backs are expected to lose FA's to be A.J. Pollock and Patrick Corbin. Pollock is probably not a HUGE loss as his inability to stay on the field has always been a factor, plus after coming back from an injury earlier in the season, he put up an abysmal .691 OPS over his last 69 games. A healthy Pollock will always be a "what could have been?" story for this club, but his 102 OPS+ over the last 3 years should be something they are able to replace if they are looking to compete.

    Corbin is the real piece that could set this franchise back. He stepped into the role that Robbie Ray played behind Greinke last season giving the D'Backs a strong front two. Him leaving with Walker expected to miss the first half of the season AND likely no god like performance from Clay Buchholz to rely on in 2019 could make the D'Backs consider selling some pieces off as well. Goldschmidt being the last year of his deal could be the real factor here. They have a fairly weak farm system that had a good year in the lower levels. So they could look to sign him long term and if he says no, maybe they move him for whatever they can as well as Greinke too.

    The D'Backs and Giants have the weakest farms in the division. The Padres have what is generally regarded as the best farm in baseball, while the Rockies and Dodgers are kicking around the Top 10. With young cores in place with both the top two teams in the West, it will be interesting to see how the two middle franchises go about the seasons to come.
     
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    Well for one thing it would be 'worth' knowing how you acquired said data.. LOL
     
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    you already forgot?
    i left the mountain early when you started that shit around the campfire
     
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    Buehler, Hill, Maeda, Stripling, Wood, Urias, Santana, Ferguson and Stewart. Not to mention, expected 2019 arrivals of White, May and Gonsolin. Once again, they should have tremendous depth in the SP department, but a capable number 2 behind our new Ace would be nice. ;)
     
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    Things change in October and based on asking prices but in theory I’d

    Keep Machado, Kershaw and Ryu
    Let Dozier, Madson and Yaz leave
    Try and move one of Puig, Kemp or Joc and one of Wood and Maeda
     
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    What's your plan with Machado, Seager returning, and Lux charging in full speed ahead to gobble up another IF spot? Not that Lux will be on the big club early next year, but I'm assuming 1 part of the plan would have Belli in the OF somewhere..and Muncy?
     
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    Keeping Machado would make things really interesting and I would wonder how the team would even maneuver that one. There is no trading of Seager or Turner that the club would consider and the emergence of Muncy makes for a situation where you can't really move him off of 1B. So someone is going to have to play 2B and I have a hard time seeing any of those guys doing that capably(though Turner looks solid in shifts there). Only thing that could work is Muncy learning a capable LF. Kemp to me is as good as gone after this season. He had a nice bounceback early, but his numbers overall are not good enough to block guys like Verdugo or Rios or probably even Toles. Plus, he's a goddamn travesty in the OF.

    What is your idea to then fill the C vacancy? If your ideal scenario plays out where it is, then the Dodgers are looking at an everyday lineup of LF Joc/Verdugo/Taylor/Hernandez, 2B? Turner, 3B? Seager, SS? Machado, 1B Muncy, RF Puig, CF Bellinger... so they could sacrifice offense at the position if they chose to go with Barnes. Not to mention they would have a shit ton of money back on the books so they could elect to go cheap here anyway.

    Walter is saying all the things to make me think that there is just no chance that they even let Kershaw opt out, so I expect to see him back. I think there is nearly zero chance that they move Maeda as his contract is just too sweet to move, but I kind of felt that a Wood trade could be on the docket. I don't think there is a chance in hell that they'd re-sign him after next season and they may try to get what they can now. I've felt that Joc could be expendable, but you would have to think that a contract driven Puig may be something to keep around.
     
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    I’d play Beli in CF for the year if you can bring back Manny. Either play Manny at 3B/Turner at 1B or Seager at 2B. It’s not ideal but it happens. Washington moved Rendon and Turner around to accommodate things. Turner at 1B is probably an inevitability at some point and with shifts and how good our offense would be what’s it matter. More than enough playing time to go around for Turner, Machado, Seager, Muncy and Bellinger.
     
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    I think the days of penciling in a lineup are over. Too many platoons and off days.

    Turner, Machado, Muncy, Seager and Bellinger should get consistent AB’s next year. Taylor and Verdugo are cool too. Puig and Joc are at the end of their deals and probably not worth paying considering we have cheaper comparable options, but if we did move Verdugo and extend one of them I wouldn’t be upset. Play the young catchers even with the steep learning curve that comes with hitting for C’s at the MLB level. I forgot Kiké he can stay too.
     
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    I don't like the thought of Seager at 2B. That's a big, big guy that they'd be asking to make those turns and sometimes awkward angle throws, and there's such a difference in the footwork there. I know there's big fella Lemahieu in Denver handling himself well at 2B, but Seager's just never struck me as that guy. But if his offense returns, to have that offense at 2B would be appreciated, so it wouldn't be terrible.

    JT moving off 3B for Machado would be fine I think, I'm with you there. Machado's maybe better than JT at 3B right now, or with a respectable amount of work he would be. But if you lock Turner and Machado at the corners, basically, and have Seager returning and taking 2B, that's a squeeze on Muncy. I know you like Muncy, but a scenario where Machado returns puts Muncy in a bad spot..which I'm fine with, I'm just saying. And then of course Lux could play well enough to break into the IF by September. Machado re-signs and maybe they'd be better off selling high on Muncy, sending him to some club that can get him 500ABs and value him like an everyday guy?
     
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    Seager's arm has been iffy so you put him at 1st. Personally I put odds that Manny stays at 0.000%
     
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    Maeda ended Christian Walker's season with that FB to the face last night. Apparently has some broken bones from it. Maeda was pretty visibly upset after the fact, so I hope that the D'Backs use that as enough reason NOT to retaliate. Gonna be interesting to watch with the tentious recent history of these two clubs.
     
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    Same page. Muncy has to play LF in that scenario..and Seager at 2B definitely doesn't feel right, none of them do. Maybe they deal Muncy, sell high before he wakes up and realizes what he's done ala Taylor this year? But yeah, with you 100%, Kemp is trash out there. The resurrection was fun and so necessary with so many other guys playing like shit earlier, but this 2nd stint with the team wasn't meant be long lasting.

    We've thrown around some catching options before, the one that always sticks is Wil Ramos on a short term deal to bridge to Smith/Ruiz. Contract year Puig feels like its going to go great or just flat out terrible, no in between. All it'd take is one injury where he misses a couple weeks or a month and we're probably back to pressing/contract year Hanley all over again trying to hit 4 HRs every game
     
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    They have to win something, so I imagine a benches clearing dust up is on deck. Which they also may not win, but they probably have a better shot there. If they injure one key Dodger in a benches clearing ep it'd probably be worth it to them. Lol
     
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    Oh I didn't hear about that I hope he can recover enough to still be a pro. Highly doubt they retaliate Maeda has never been known as a head hunter.
     
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    Seager at 1B seems like the way to go if Machado returns. Especially with Lux potentially moving into 2B in '19 or '20.

    0% feels strong, but they have to do hell of a lot of maneuvering if he does return. Might be easier to just sign Harper and fit him in if they want a big bat..even though Machado has a pretty good shot to be the better buy long term given that he's an infielder
     
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    Probably not as much as three world series championships.
    I get it, but we know they won three times, the cornholing is all conjecture.
    Unless there's eyewitness accounts...
     
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    Worked for Steve Garvey. I think Harper re-signs with the Nats but he will delay it for a long long time to see what the Nats do to replace pitchers who are FA's. Their everyday line-up is good IF healthy.
     
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