DODGERS NEWS/RUMORS/AROUND MLB Thread

if not sooner, but yeah, that was a big part of it all.

 

It's not of great import or anything, but is this guy kidding?
A free and easy swing from Joc? Maybe we are watching different guys, but it's pretty much a done deal on the opinion universally that Joc loads up on every cut, and if he runs into one...goodbye.
But free and easy...I don't think so. Main reason his Ks have been with him always.
Certainly doesn't get cheated...I have to listen to the opposing announcers (don't get Dodger broadcasts), and every set of opposing twerps so far have remarked on it.

 

i'm thinking that Olivera won't be pitching in until next season. i've seen some reports that have said that we shouldn't expect to see him at all this year ( which is crazy because he's about to turn 30). of course they could let Rollins go next year and Seager could slide to SS and Olivera would move into 3B.

there's also perhaps a scenario in which we win the World Series this year and Rollins plays enough of a part in it all that they wanna give him a year extension to sort of continue to lead some of our young players. that would put pressure on them to clear up the LF situation, but hell, in almost any scenario the Nerds are gonna be looking to do away with the overpaid guys in Ethier and Crawford and clean up LF, so Olivera could perhaps fit there once they get that squared away..at least for a year.

 

yes. you see that right. Maddon has put Russell in the 9 spot.

 

You'll excuse me if I don't want to go in there...

 

I just don't see it happening. Dodgers still have plenty of IF's capable of starting like Guerrero and Turner, in addition to Urine and Rollins. Even when Uribe has his yearly injury, the Dodgers have people who can step in for him. If Seager is up, IMO, a lot would have to go wrong, like both Rollins and Uribe getting injured.

 

I think Addison Russell is going to steal the prospect show for the Cubs. He's the real deal

 

We replaced Hanley, Kemp, and Gordon with Rollins, Joc, and Kendrick. As well as the guys we let go are hitting, our guys are hitting just as well, plus they are much better defensively and we are committed to a lot less money (about $160 million less after you add in what we are still paying Kemp). Also, we don't have 2 corner spots available for these guys, we got a catcher somewhere in all that wheeling and dealing so that we don't have to watch AJ be our starter, and we got an extra draft pick.

I'd call it a huge win for us at this very moment, let alone 3 years down the road.

Just my

 

don't forget Kike Hernandez..he's capable too. gotta love the depth. however, if Seager is up it could also mean that he was just ready..that's what Shaikin reported in the winter..that they feel Seager will be ready in June or July.

if they think he's ready, and they feel like he's the best option at both the dish and at 3B..why not? because of Guerreo, Juan Rojas, Hernandez and Turner? God bless them all, but Seager takes precedence over every single one of the current 3B options. http://lasordaslair.com/2015/04/17/a-scenario-where-corey-seager-starts-at-3b-for-the-dodgers/ <--he does a good job of hashing it all out.

 

Just with our options I don't think it would be smart to throw him into the middle of a pennant race even if all those things happen.

 

if they do it'll signal their confidence in his maturity and perhaps give off the notion that they feel he can learn from a Juan Rojas and Jimmy Rollins before both are gone.

 

J-Roll will be gone regardless but I'd love to keep Howie for longer.

 

his chances of returning don't look good right now, but they have just enough versatility to keep the door open and keep him buying into what they're trying to do this year.

imo, if he makes it to the open market he'll get a 4yr contract from somebody.

 

Olivera will either be at 3B or 2B.
If howie walks which I assume will happen we will collect a type a compensatory pick and then plug Olivera at second. Seager can play third or short

 

Why would you assume Howie walks?

 

Mostly contingent on if Seager is to play 3B (which he's been playing in AA as of late)

In that scenario my assumption is management would prefer,

Olivera + 1st round pick

Over

Kendrick who would probably get 15-20 M contract over 4-5 years. Plus if Seager plays third this would make Olivera expendable. I think they signed Olivera with a plan for the future. They knew he'd be out this year and would be back in 2016. Why sign him to sit a year then have no starting position for him the next? Still possible that they just sign talent but I like to think there's a plan for everything

Olivera is cheaper and I'm sure they would really value a possible 1st round pick. They just paid 2.75M for a second round compensatory pick so I'm basing my assumption on that.

 

Dodgers worked Olivera at 3B exclusively in those workouts. now, can things change? no doubt, but it would seem as if the plan is for Olivera to take over at 3B by 2016 at the latest.

don't know how you can assume that they let HK walk..both Kasten and Friedman have long been after his services and Friedman's been forthcoming about being willing to discuss a deal with him before free agency.

but if HK does walk, i don't think that necessarily means that Olivera is taking over at 2B..still have to account for Kike Hernandez who can play 2B pretty well and is much younger giving Seager a more dynamic DP partner.

 

OK, i see..yeah, all bets are off if Seager moves to 3B for the long term. for sure.

part of that plan has to be continuing their house cleaning..Ethier and Crawford getting moved out and opening up LF. like i was saying earlier about them working Olivera out at 3B exclusively..him moving to say LF would be a surprise, but things happen. may be a possibility..

Olivera is cheaper, indeed ( and younger too, btw), but he's still a wild card. they definitely liked what they saw and believe in him, but giving up Kendrick because of that..a long time, trusted, righty/middle of the order bat..that's not a " baseball man " move. and they only have to be baseball men now that they aren't in Tampa and Oakland anymore.