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  1. CardsShark

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    I hope this time you are wrong bro... I sure hope so. Then again you might be right.
     
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    The NL needs the DH Imo. Pitchers hitting around .120/.140/.150 across the league so that at bat is just not exciting and is basically like giving an out 3x a game.
    It's become a pitchers league and the league needs offense.
     
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    Delete double post
     
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    Why? So we can see 13-11 slugfests? Or more 14-2 blowouts? That shit is boring as hell, watching hitter after hitter reach base like a merry go round. Give me an old fashioned pitchers duel every time. There was an old joke about a lady who didn't arrive until the top of the 9th, as she took her seat she asked the guy next to her what the score was. The guy replied excitedly, "it's nothing to nothing!" The lady said "Good, I didn't miss anything."

    Ask yourself why you like watching Kershaw pitch. Is it because the offense has to score a lot of runs to keep him in the game or is it because he makes opposing hitters look like rookies?

    IMO they need to raise the mound back to where it was in the sixties, tell the hitters not to cry about the high hard ones, and let the pitchers fucking pitch. Personally, I would have loved to see Barry Bonds hang over the plate while facing Drysdale or Gibson in their prime. There was a time when the hitter had to be wary when digging in to the box, now if they get one inside pitch they look at the pitcher wild-eyed like he's holding his kids hostage.
     
    carolinabluedodger, Apr 27, 2015
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    :this::applause:

    You are a gentleman and a scholar.
     
    BlueCrewFan_1965, Apr 28, 2015
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  6. CapnTreee

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    I agree with him too but I wouldn't go that far
     
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    Due to the ongoing selfishness of the Baltimore protests, the Orioles game tomorrow will be played but closed to the public. I got to see that. They also moved 3 home games to Tropicana Field and will be the home team, which makes no sense at all, I mean MLB could at least make them the road team and give them the games back later in the season. It's not like Tampa has fans that would have shown up regardless.
     
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    Kike Hernandez might be getting called up, he isn't in the lineup for OKC
     
    Chiefdodgerslkrs24, Apr 28, 2015
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    Some random numbers for today

    joc is 12th in the league with 1.0 war as of today...
    You know who else is t-12 with the same war?
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    Alex Guerrero in only 24 PA and 36 innings at third

    Back to joc. He's 2nd in the league in batted ball velocity at 97.52. Hanley is first at 99.05. Alex Rodriguez, Jorge Soler, and Grandal (94.63) round out the top 5
     
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  10. CapnTreee

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    I love that they track this stat.

    and that somehow Grandal (BA = .200) shows up on the same list in the proximity of Guerrero (BA = .500) tells what the stat is worth.

    So maybe there is hope for Grandal?? Hey he's still better than AJ.
     
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    Joc also only trails Stanton in the swing and miss category. not to be " negative Nancy "..just sayin. like to see that part of his game improve..knowing when to shorten up. he looks good, though.


    interesting to see Grandal in there. i think he could be decent in the 2 spot, given fatter pitches and more fastballs. he walks enough.
     
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  12. CapnTreee

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    I dunno about the 2 spot

    not at .200
     
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    And there's damn few of us left.

    :laff:
     
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    I agree with him too but I wouldn't go that far


    See what I mean...

    :shrug:
     
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    The value of the stat is that it shows if the ball is being hit solidly (like a Dodger) or weakly (like a Giant). Then you can work BA into the mix by looking at who's getting cheated (high velocity, low average) and who's luckier than a dog with two dicks (low velocity, high average). Wouldn't hurt to look at BAbip at the same time.
     
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    not a bumgarner fan because, well, he's a giant
    but he is spot on here and i applaud him for calling scherzer out

    Bumgarner on Scherzer's DH rant: "He knew the rules"
    ESPN.com news services — 4 hours ago

    The owner of two career grand slams and an affinity for hitting, Madison Bumgarner decidedly would not welcome a rule change that takes the bat out of his hands.

    The San Francisco Giants' ace and reigning World Series MVP responded critically to Washington Nationals right-hander Max Scherzer, who injured his right thumb while batting Thursday before railing against the National League's long-held tradition of batting pitchers.

    "He knew the rules. Whatever much he signed for -- what did he get, again? -- he didn't have a problem signing his name," said Bumgarner, referring to Scherzer's $210 million, seven-year free-agent deal he signed with the Nationals in the offseason. "He didn't have a problem with hitting then. I'm sure he had his pick of anywhere he wanted to go."

    According to the San Jose Mercury News, Bumgarner, who has six career home runs as a hitter, took issue with Scherzer's implication that pitchers are not real hitters.

    Scherzer had advocated over the weekend for the NL to adopt the designated hitter, saying to CBS Sports, "If you look at it from the macro side, who'd people rather see hit: Big Papi [Boston Red Sox slugger David Ortiz] or me? Who would people rather see, a real hitter hitting home runs or a pitcher swinging a wet newspaper? Both leagues need to be on the same set of rules."

    Bumgarner pointed out that pitchers are vulnerable to injury in a variety of ways and that injuries sustained while hitting should not be singled out.

    "What if he got hurt pitching? Should we say we can't pitch anymore?" Bumgarner said. "I hate what happened to him. He works his butt off out there. But I don't think it was because he was hitting. What if he gets hurt getting out of his truck? You tell him not to drive anymore?

    "That's the way the game has to be played. I appreciate both sides of the argument and I get it. But [ending pitcher plate appearances] isn't the way to go about [addressing] it."

    The issue of whether the NL should adopt the DH has received even more attention following the season-ending injury suffered by Cardinals ace Adam Wainwright, who tore his Achilles injury while running out of the batter's box Saturday.

    Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred indicated, however, that he was not inclined to make any drastic changes to the DH rule.

    "I try not to be too swayed by particular events that happen in a given season," Manfred said Tuesday during an interview on ESPN's Mike & Mike. "My view on the DH is that the difference between the two leagues is actually a point of debate among our fans, and that those sorts of debate are good for the game over the long haul."

    Bumgarner responded wryly to Scherzer's characterization of a pitcher's bat as a "wet newspaper," saying, "Oh, well, my wet newspaper is 34½ inches, 33½ ounces, and I'm waiting on some new ones right now."

    On hand nearby, Giants right-hander Jake Peavy took up his teammate's case.

    "I'll tell you something about Madison Bumgarner: Last year, he hit in the eighth inning against [Los Angeles Dodgers starter] Zack Greinke with our season on the line. He already hit a two-run home run on a 1-2 slider in a night game here," Peavy said, according to the Mercury News report. "So don't come out and pop off or make a comment about [pitchers not being legitimate hitters]. We have a distinct advantage because of what he can do at the plate.

    "As pitchers, it's about taking pride in batting and baserunning and getting a bunt down or putting it in play," Peavy continued. "If you do that better than the other pitcher, you've got an advantage."

    Bumgarner explained he doesn't want to see the league-specific rules changed and that he appreciates the unique challenges the National League presents to players and managers alike.

    "It's a beautiful game to me the way it is," he said. "That's obviously the way baseball started and I'm a traditional guy. I'm not much for change. I know people argue both sides, but for me, from what I see, it's a more challenging game. It's more challenging for managers. There's so much more that goes into it in the National League than, 'let 'em pitch until they can't get outs anymore.'"​
     
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    Kikeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee woo, finally a competent back up SS.

    I'd be all over Grandal hitting 2nd while Puig is out. Crawford/Ethier should not be there.
     
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    it wouldn't be a perfect fit, but the main thing is he walks and makes plenty of contact. he's hit the ball hard too, but the main thing is Grandal gets on base. before yesterday his OBP was .353..today it's .322..it's been kind of going back and forth like that for the last week because it's so early and that's what numbers do this early, but his career OBP is .350

    i just think he might be better surrounded by say Puig in the leadoff spot and AGon/Kendrick behind him. they've already had Grandal hit in the 2-spot once this season when Puig was out.. he went 1-4 with a walk and a run in that game..no strikeouts.
     
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    Everyone's entitled to their opinion, Bumgarner, Scherzer included, frankly, this shouldn't even be a story.
     
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    It's 3 o'clock, usually they announce lineup/roster moves right about now
     
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