espn is in a tough spot but it's not bias it's because they fear the potential firestorm if they were to penalize hill let's be honest here... if hill were white and criticized any black leader she would have been fired immediately but since she's black, espn is afraid to do anything damned if they do, damned if they don't but in this instance they're not biased now east coast sports bias on the other hand... ESPN has confirmed its bias by Jay Hart | Yahoo Sports — 2 hours ago In its handling so far of the Jemele Hill situation, ESPN has confirmed its bias. Call it liberal, call it whatever you want, but this much is clear: if ESPN agrees with your political commentary, you’re OK. If ESPN does not agree with your political commentary, you’re not OK. At least that’s the only thing to infer from ESPN’s response so far. Before you scroll down to comment, take a few minutes to consider … The Curt Schilling comparison: Schilling was fired after what ESPN determined to be an inappropriate post on social media. ESPN has determined Hill’s tweet Monday about President Trump to be inappropriate. Schilling had previously been suspended for another social media post ESPN determined to be “unacceptable.” Hill has previously been suspended as well by ESPN, back in 2008, for invoking Hitler in a column about the Boston Celtics. So first suspension, then firing. If that’s ESPN’s policy, so be it. Except so far ESPN has done nothing to Hill aside from a feather-tap on the wrist for what is a blatant violation of its own policies (which we’ll get to). She has not been removed from her hosting duties on “SportsCenter,” not even for a day, and if ESPN’s statement about Hill’s comments – that President Trump is a “white supremacist” – was meant as a reprimand, well, that’s laughable: ESPN’s policy on “Political and Social Issues”: When it comes to political speech, media members are, appropriately so, held to a higher standard, which is why a media outlet such as ESPN have guidelines outlining what is and isn’t appropriate. It’s here where ESPN has some explaining to do. In reading ESPN’s own policies on employees commenting on politics, which was issued in April, Hill is in clear violation, and not by a little. • “Writers, reporters, producers and editors directly involved in ‘hard’ news reporting, investigative or enterprise assignments and related coverage should refrain in any public-facing forum from taking positions on political or social issues, candidates or office holders.” Does Jemele Hill’s platform as host of ESPN’s flagship news program not fall under “hard” news reporting? Or does she somehow slip through this crack? Even if she doesn’t fall under that umbrella, there’s this: • “Commentaries on relevant sports-related issues are appropriate, but we should refrain from overt partisanship or endorsement of particular candidates, politicians or political parties.” (It should be noted the bold emphasis above is ESPN’s, not mine.) None of Hill’s tweets had relevancy to any “sports-related issues.” • “The presentation should be thoughtful and respectful. We should offer balance or recognize opposing views, as warranted. We should avoid personal attacks and inflammatory rhetoric.” As this relates to Hill’s tweets: violation, violation, violation. Do these policies ESPN has set forth apply to Twitter? “These guidelines act in concert with all ESPN standards & practices, including those governing social media and commentary, and apply on ESPN, Twitter, Facebook and other media.” So yeah. Look, I’m not advocating Hill be fired or suspended. ESPN’s the one that got that ball rolling when it canned Schilling, which is its prerogative. The network even gave itself some leeway by not attaching any set punishment for violating its own rules, allowing itself the ability to make disciplinary decisions arbitrarily … which it took full advantage of here. If ESPN says, “Yes, you have the freedom to say what you want,” fine. If they say, “No, you don’t have the freedom to say want you want,” that’s fine, too. But if it’s going to say, “Hey, she has the freedom to say what she wants but you don’t,” then by ESPN’s own actions it’s telling us where it stands, which in this case is politically left. Whether it sees that as a problem is up to ESPN, just as it’s up to you. Me, I see it as totalitarian.
double standard much umm yeah they're actually rather good at it (Their view of 'good' itself being highly subjective that is)
This is representative of the media in general. As well as academia and Hollywood. I can get on board with people not liking Donald Trump. He has the diction of a fourth grader in the temperament of a kindergartener. But the whole racism angle is something I just don't understand. Comparing the man to Hitler, labeling him a fascist (it's funny how we change the definitions of words on the daily), and the overall hypocrisy is like nothing I've seen in my short life.
So true so true I speculate that much of the finger pointing is that few of us want to admit to owning any element of the other side when in plain reality that is full bullshit. I think Trump is a blowhard, thieving liar of the worst proportions and yet he "is" a wealthy businessman (in theory) so at least 'some' modest portion of me, being a business owner for decades does have 'some' respect. I think Hillary is a nasty thieving lying entitled fool that scared the hell out of me and I never blamed Slick Willy for getting his wonka whacked. Still at least 'some' part of me knows that HRC would have been a far better 'manager' and parlimentarian than Trump. Far better. So I stil hate her. BUT.. if I permit myself I can see 'some' modest attribute of each worthy of note. Many Americans simply cannot agree with BOTH of those sentences. Too narrow minded. I think Obama was intelligent and enlightened and good for our country overall, far better than war hero McCain or uber rich spoiled job thief Romney would have been together. Yet he caved at once to Wall St. and the back room Bush boys beating and forever after displayed ZERO testicle pride. None. Stand the fuck up son.. geeeeze what a wimp. Many Americans simply cannot agree with BOTH of those sentences either. Still too narrow minded. I share volatile topics with a bunch of lib friends of Diablo's brother and NONE can find a single shred of anything about Trump they can stomach. I share DSP with Diablo and Darth and yourself and others who fight back a gag instinct any time someone says anything semi OK about Hillary. (Channeling my inner Rube... ) Life is in the middle ground brother. Precious little is absolute. OK maybe the Preibus GOP insiders are absolute evil but otherwise we're all yelling about different color shit stains on the toilet while fools claim theirs left no mark.
just blows me away the entitlement of some people especially these media hacks first off, no one cares what you think secondly, you should know that if you say something it could reflect negatively on you from your employer espn's handling of the matter is pathetic... "her comments do not represent the position of espn" great, way to try and clear (only) yourselves "we have addressed this with he and she recognizes her actions were inappropriate" is that an apology? because it doesn't sound like it actions = consequences... or at least they're supposed to she doesn't have to be fired (although others have gotten the axe for less) but keeping her on the air, without (any apparent) reprimand, only makes espn look worse and tbh i'm okay with that they've earned it
Views aside, Jemele Hill offers nothing for a sports fan. Zero insight or flair that would make any sports fan want to tune in and listen to her. That applies to most of ESPN to be honest....two guys in suits screaming at each other over the same topics on a daily basis is a waste of my time. I find just about every show on ESPN to be extremely boring.
lol yeah, doubt she's that smart Jason Whitlock says Jemele Hill’s attack on Trump an exit strategy from ESPN Fox Business — 14 hours ago Jemele Hill apologized to ESPN for calling President Donald Trump a “white supremacist” on social media. The “SportsCenter” co-host took to Twitter Wednesday saying, “My regret is that my comments and the public way I made them painted ESPN in an unfair light.” In an interview with FOX Business’ Stuart Varney on Varney & Co., Fox Sports host Jason Whitlock said Hill’s attack on the President is geared towards making herself a more viable TV personality outside of the Disney-owned ESPN. “I think we are looking at someone who doesn’t fit at ESPN, would prefer to be off the hardcore sports talk circuit and wants to do a show like ‘The View’ or her own show where she can just dabble in sports,” he said. The “Speak for Yourself” host said Hill is taking a page out of Megyn Kelly’s departure from Fox and is making negative comments against Trump to part ways with ESPN. “Megyn went after President Trump or then candidate Trump, built her brand and moved on. Jemele Hill [is] going after President Trump, building her brand so she can move on from ESPN. I think this is an exit strategy for Jemele Hill,” Whitlock said.
All of this anti fascist, anti white, anti nationalists, anti etc... hyper liberalism ultra leftism will only lead to one thing. Backlash. They are being used to create the very thing they are against. This has been the trap since forever. Every generation loses some to the trap but eventually makes it out the other side. But this millennial generation will take all of the bait and will mostly all fall into the trap that has been set since forever. They are running with the bait so hard to the left that their children will hate everything to do with it when they rebel. Because the natural backlash to this hyper liberalism will be dressed in the colors of ultra conservatism. Our millennials are going to sell their own children into bondage when the bill becomes due.
totally agree on this generation everyone looking for some (usually senseless) cause to rally behind no one thinks for themselves any more just sheep falling in line mindless lemmings
They'd unwind 2 decades of wannabe blackness and alienate 3/4ths of their viewers if they did that and TRUST ME, I KNOW, Disney is ALL ABOUT the image they project. ...........and in this case they're DEAD ASS WRONG!
Yeah Disney, more than ESPN totally cares about its image. Obsessively so. Almost more than Scientology and that is saying something. I too have dealt with Disney corporate about branding issues and OMG anal retentive is a gross understatement. However I'm reminded of the Lou Brock quotation "show me a guy who is afraid to look bad and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time". Like most here at DSP I rail at PC language (and thoughts) and think Disney is waaay too full of themselves. OTOH they 'do' have the recipe for family friendly, kid friendly entertainment, no one argues. All that said, @Rubricon point about the pendulum swings is fairly accurate and well explains one of the reasons why Trump was elected. Too many @LA Diablo's upset about Obama's bowing low or whatever certainly propelled the pendulum to the Right. I think Trump himself is more of a populist and is NOT actually quite as evil as the current Priebus led GOP. And Jemele is a publicity whore doing or saying ANYTHING to get/stay in the public eye. Those types are usually best ignored anyways. As stated above I've yet to learn ANYTHING about sports from her, she's merely a racist looking to use sporting's liberal media as her foil and thus deserves to be overlooked/forgotten as soon as possible. NEXT!!!
It sucks being a sports fan in this climate. Andy Mccalough is the best Dodgers beat reporter we've had (low bar), imo, but is totally a leftist. The latest being retweeting a bullshit article from Shaikin about Pantone 294 protesting the President's decision on DACA. This situation is due to decades of bipartisan ineptitude in regards to immigration and the PERSONAL DECISIONS of people entering this country illegally. But no...it's all one guy's fault. Make a pinata of the President and protest like bitches. Don't hold your parents accountable. My wife was a DACA recipient and a 'Dreamer' as the media calls them (how objective). We paid thousands of dollars to obtain her residency and there were sleepless nights where I legitimately thought she could be sent back to Mexico. So I can relate a little bit on an emotional level. But nobody is ever held accountable! I'm all for legalizing folks who were brought here by no fault of their own as children and are in school, working, paying taxes, abiding by our laws, adopting western values, etc. At the same time, if we don't weed out the bad ones and secure the border, we are offering incentive for people to continue to come over illegaly. It's not fair to the citizens of this country or for LEGAL immigrants who are waiting in line. Horrible precedent/reality right now. This is what politicians do. They get people conditioned to programs, amnesty, and services and make it impossible for the next guy in line to make any changes. People will riot if they feel their entitlements are taken away. Btw, DACA is essentially staying for this reason and because Trump is sackless. His campaign was like Kershaw in the regular season and his presidency is like the NLCS. Oh, and Andy also was retweeting some crap about James Woods, who is no doubt a douchebag but only called out because he is on the right. I dont mind people being critical of folks like James Woods or even the President. But there's no accountability for the left. No matter how violent, deceitful, hypocritical and delusional those leftist celebs are...not a peep from the LA Times or beat writers. Fkags. Stop ruining sports! I hate myself for even typing this.
and yet its constantly in our face because they all think they have an opinion we all care about everyone must have a position and make it heard and anyone in disagreement must be labelled a racist, denier, nazi etc. maybe if the left has some focus instead of just bitching and whining about everything people might pay more attention its like they just keep slinging shit out of their asses hoping something will stick and doing everything to divide us my daily experience is nothing like what the fringes of both sides portray it as and i'm not known for patronizing anyone i don't care for (shock i know) just saying most people i bump into by chance in a store or wherever genuinely treat me good and vice versa i have human, non color , non political average human experiences daily w all those living in LA do some hate me cause i'm white? maybe, probably, but i never think about it and all that matters is that we are civil to each other but its usually way better its the little things and all those pushing the agendas are on the fringe this woman means nothing to me and i don't even think she should be fired or whatever she needs to be ignored and pitied for her ugly narrow minded view of society its the mostly white apologists that perpetuate the grievance industry anyway and just bringing up personal responsibility or pride in your country makes you an instant racist white supremascist not sure why or what went wrong but in my earliest memories i remember families of all colors sticking together as a unit and projecting dignity i love talking to older black folks about life because they have incredible values and solid insight on life same w those who came from germany and poland w tattoos on their arms or china, korea, vietnam, armenia, nicaragua, india etc we used to focus on what we had in common and we just worked harder period if we forgot there were people from all sides reminding us to be ashamed of our lazy entitled attitude with a gun now its just daily pointing out of differences and blame i don't know if i long for the old days but things like respect, courtesy and human dignity carried weight i do miss that along w the concept of shame because there just isn't any anymore we all have the power to be the change we want to see in the world and that is more than a gandi quote i know it sounds trite but a smile and being decent goes a long way people w access to a mike and camera spreading decency would be a nice start shame it doesn't sell
Dude TB that was such a good rant! I'm with you fully my DSP brother. But the issue is bigger than ESPN sports, far bigger. Both sides are fucking with peoples lives... callously... and simply for sport. In fact as I argue with friends on BOTH sides on this topic I'm reminded of your exact views. Which I fully support. It is patently absurd to say You have to come here legally and if you don't then there is ZERO course of action but 'leave for at least 10 years and then try again legally" What brainless ineptness! Which GOP/DNC hack wrote that nonsense? The lying theives on the Right opine "we need the cheap labor, if they were legal we'd have to pay more so your cost of tomatos and lettuce would skyrocket. (99.94% bullshit hiding behind a simplistic market fact) So the salsa would cost slightly more? So fucking what, the people making it would then be tax paying citizens and not forced to live in a gray market world. Idiots. Of course the lying thieves on the Left are no better pandering to 'leave it alone because their relatives are voting for us. We don't want them voting GOP so let's leave the borders open'. Again 99.94% bullshit hiding behind a tiny truism while lives are being destroyed. Of course one Libtard friend went so far as to defend not having borders and I went off on him. WTF?? Do you leave your front door open with your wife and children sleeping? Why not? Are you putting everyone into compressed sleeping arrangements and then letting immigrants sleep in the other rooms of your house? Why not? Do you care for them to? Do you feed and educate them too? He was an idiot and it took many more replies until he vaguely grasped the lunacy of the 'no border' mindset. I fully expect that 99.94% of posters to uber liberal Huff Post are equally clueless. But Trump is not. He's more of a populist than the evil GOP henchmen, he's more a populist than the DNC too so they better be careful too. Interestingly what neither @LA Diablo nor @darth550 want to grasp/share is that MORE immigrants were removed from America under Obama than any other president in history. Of course the liberal Dems don't want that known openly either and the MSM is happy to keep it all on the down low, need to know basis. Again who loses? The immigrants, those who do not donate stupidly large sums into political parties so as to be heard. Yeah. Well. What was my point? Right... umm so why don't cartels yet run our political parties? Oh, Rube says they do. Well it was inevitable I suppose. Neither side has done an iota to actually resolve the immigration issue. Both sets of lying thieves rapidly point to the other side as the problem. Which is what America has become. Plausible deniability rather than truth, but never, ever work with the other side. Fkags stop ruining America!! Wait, fkags aren't the problem Bkitches stop ruining America!! Wait, bkitches aren't the problem either. (well at least not that problem) Politicians stop ruining America!!! All of y'all dammit
Don't do it man, don't do it. Pantone 294 was a good color, a fine color indeed. Until some craven 'man' got ahold of him and ruined his Dodgers agenda. fkuck the Man!!
Another calm well reasoned rant, Thank You buddy.. too many thoughts in agreement but I had to agree with that bolded because so few do today. Days of Old ? Nah. We've moved on it's okay to keep growing Morals and ethics of Old? Another case entirely. Personal Responsibility starts from the top and anyone employed by either of us KNEW that. No excuses admit a mistake when you learn of it, grow from it. Learn to be better. Not today. Plausible deniability is a cancer just like political correctness. And the lying thieves in DC simply do not care. In their realm 'fkuck American, I'm getting mine' is the ONLY thing on their feeble minds.
You should hate yourself for writing this! It does not suck being a sports fan in this climate. Watch the sports, fuck all the other noise. Politicians need division between the people in order to govern them without having to actually do anything. They create programs they know will piss off half the people so there could be a fight. Where there is chaos the devil can do his dirty work and nobody notices. That is the conditioning they do. Trump is not Kershaw, Trump is a businessman. And I mean that with all of the worst aspects of what being a businessman is. He is about making deals. He has no positions just postures. Postures that can change at any moment if he thinks he can make a deal. He is a horse trader in the worst way. And in that regard he may go down as the worst president ever. Because there will be a moment where he will get offered an offer he cant refuse. Probably from somewhere in Europe, possibly from Italy via Eastern Bloc era connections from Romania that have been planning their world to come since the chaos that happened in France. They invented what is called Liberation Theology and Christian Democracy in europe, latin america then everywhere else. Here it is called the Progressive Liberalism and Political Correctness. And it is a KGB disinformation strategy to bring down western civilization. Our own western 'allies' traded us to the KGB in order to bring us low enough to then be taken over by them. Our allies are our enemy who has been our ally out of the fact that we are the biggest kid on the block and they are sycophants. But in truth and action they are affiliated with our enemy and that makes them our worst enemy. Your worst enemy is the person who pretends to be your friend but is a businessman who will sell you out and stick a knife in your back because... its not personal, its just business. Those fuckers own the WCC in Geneva and the policies of the WCC then go to all nations of the world who have anything to do with any of the Christian religions. It is insidious and impossible to fix. It cant be fixed, it was created to do exactly what it is doing and so there is nothing to fix. From the french Revolution followed by ours then the funny 1812 business to the WW's and today. Their evil plan is close to ultimate fruition. But there is a counter plan. I should hate myself for writing this. It does suck to be a history fan in this climate. That's why its best to just watch history unfold as you watch from the on deck circle. To stay aware of what pitches are coming. To be able to go deep in the count. Assay the field to assure not to take anyone down with you in a GIDP. Find the opening. Then hit that noisy chaos out of the park. Because all this is is rable rousers telling the rabble that they need to rise up and fight their oppressors. That is satanic bullshit that devil worshippers try to do to move the satanic agenda forward. Dont trip, satanic just means the enemy. And devils are those of us who suck up to the enemy because intellectually we 'believe' the enemy to be right and then try to convince those that are 'less' intellectual to have blind faith and praise what they are doing 'for the poor/peace'. These are deviants who are devious in developing the traps that ensnare even the best of us. Even the best of us I said, before folks think that only societies dregs get caught up in this madness. They just feel it first. Trump will be a traitor but not because he wanted to, but because he programmed himself to be the type of person that can be influenced materially and convinced intellectually that betrayal is not betrayal but just a good deal. And you cant pass up a good deal when its kicking you square in the face.
