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Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by irish, Apr 3, 2016.

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  1. carolinabluedodger

    carolinabluedodger DSP Legend

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    I don't. I added him to my fantasy squad 3-4 weeks ago.
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    i hear what you're saying about kersh
    if there was a guarantee sale would get us a ring i might be more receptive
    but to give up all that potential for one guy...
    what if he gets seriously injured or is ineffective
    if it were just julio straight up for him, perhaps
    but to package 4 prized prospects doesn't make sense to me
    wish we would have gotten hamels at last year's deadline or price this offseason
    but can't do anything about that now
    and fwiw, who's to say julio, deleon, bellinger, verdugo aren't with the big club by 2018?
    i like the outlook of them coming up more than sale
    jmo
     
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    According to Joel Sherman, Dodgers would definitely have Urias headline a package for Sale
     
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    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

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    Another thing to add to the argument of the past pages, in 2013 we had an elite 1-3 rotation. Kershaw, Greinke and Ryu at the top of their game. Didn't matter.
     
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    I can't make it any simpler. We had the elite starters last year and the weak offense. After 100 games we were 56-44.

    This year we only have the one elite starter and the weak offense. The one elite starter hasn't pitched since June 26th, and after 100 games we are 56-44.

    So pitching has not made and is not the difference. Change the offense, change the record.
     
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    What Kershaw did and what he is capable of doing in the future may all be a fond remembrance and something we sadly may never see again.
    Sure is a deafening silence surrounding his condition.
    Arguing over the semantics from statements about it are all well and good, but meanwhile time just passes without any basic report, pro or con.
    Isn't there an intelligent, deserved update on his physical condition due soon?
    Or do we get it August 2nd or later then?
     
  7. Fall Winslow

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    This is the starter that I want most...and for him to pitch like Kershaw once they get into the post.
    My one complaint is gonna be if they leave this trade deadline without adding a RF bat and they continue to fuck around with Puig
     
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    Largely due to us scoring 2 runs in 22 innings at St. Louis to start the series while CK/ZG pitched gems. I'm still salty over Hanley getting plunked in the ribs to start the series and believe we advance with a healthy Hanley. But no matter who we put as our 1-3, the team will get nowhere if they don't upgrade the offense. It's been a theme in postseason failure after failure for us....aside from game 1 vs St. Louis at home where CK just lost it, the offense has been our demise in every postseason. Totally inept.
     
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    Sadly, I don't think that impact bat is on the market right now. Jay Bruce & Josh Reddick do nothing to excite me.
     
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    The reason I hate to see the young bats of Calhoun, Bellinger and Verdugo in a deal is unlike most other prospects of our past(especially on our roster now), these guys don't strikeout at insane rates. They still produce above avg pop, show good plate discipline and make solid contact all while being young for the league. In 363 plate appearances Verdugo has 47 K's, Callhoun 389/53 and Bellinger 308/68. Bellinger is the worst offender by far, but he also improving greatly. I'm not comparing these guys to past prospects, because they are not like our past prospects. No, you don't hit on every one, but each of these guys have shown skills that should make them valuable big leaguers. That's why I hate the idea of moving more than one of these guys when we are going to have significant holes in the future at the exact positions these guys play.
     
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    This scares me.
     
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    So...I pose a question then, witnessing all the back and forth that precedes...for those who think we need pitching badly, and for those who think we need a bat ( or two) badly...if the FO does nothing...nada...zero...in neither of those areas, what is the feeling about the FO then?
     
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    The point is they are all prospects, and unless you have a time machine you can't tell what they will do in the future. So if you have a chance to move 3 or 4 of them for a proven player at the major league level......insert Sale/Fernandez/Trout.....then you do it.

    All the more reason to go after what is on the market....pitching. Trust me, we need bats. That 1 for a Garillion with runners in scoring position we have put up in the last month is killing me. So if a "game changing" bat were on the market.....Trout/Stanton/Goldschmidt......I would be all for flippin our prospects. Unfortunately they are not, and probably will not be there in December. So back to getting what we can to try to "win now" and not waste Kershaw.
     
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    Chris Sale is one of the top pitchers in the game with 3 more years on his contract after this season at $12-13 million/year. I think Urias is a given, the real question is how much more will you have to send with Urias.
     
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    I seriously think we could send Urias/Holmes/Belanger and get the job done. Or maybe send Deleon/Holmes/Belanger/Beuhler. Unfortunately I think any trade starts with Urias.
     
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    Not happenin.
    For 1) LAD could've just signed one of the top guys last winter if they were that wild over the idea of having 2 horses.
    Now they're about to package Urias + a host of other top guys for a top arm?
    Hahahaha No.
     
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    That they value their prospects more than one guy who may or may not be the answer. Either way you're rolling the dice. As fans we want the shiny new toy that we hope will help now as opposed to the group of kids on the farm that may help in 1-3 years. Manny, the Red Sox haul and Hanley. All guys we got that helped the postseason push for not one of our elite spects. Granted we didn't make the World Series but I can see this group of nerds trying to bring in something for middle tier guys. I would be very surprised to see them part ways with their top guys.

    And the Cubs just made it that more difficult giving up that haul for a closer/FA to be
     
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    I won't be mad if they don't do anything now, especially since I have seen the prices. A little perturbed that they didn't go after Cueto, which of course he has now been the best pitcher from the FA season. Also, yes a bit frustrated that they elected to bow out of the Chapman deal without trying to renegotiate for something far weaker. It doesn't change that you can't predict Turner, Agon and Grandal all getting off to excruciating slow starts or Wood, Anderson, Thompson, Kike, Ethier, Kendrick, De Leon, Kershaw and Montas all getting season impacting injuries. They have made some extremely savvy moves when you break it down, but excessive injuries have made those moves moot as of yet.
     
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    What top guys are you talking about? Greinke - NO, that contract is going to be one of the worst in 2 years. Smarjaklasjdfash - The dude has really only had 2 good years in 2013 and 2014, Maeda is better and cheaper. Cueto is signed through 2021 for $21M/year.......did I mention he is 30 years old this year. What other top pitcher could have been had in December of last year?
     
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    Keep listing them
     
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