DODGERS NEWS/RUMORS Thread

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  1. ColoradoKidWitGame

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    I remember yelling at the TV that they were hitting everything like they knew what was coming. Just fucking maddening.
     
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    Let's spread the tumor that the dodgers were also involved in all of this and that Dave Roberts and Alex Cora planned it together while member of the Padres.
    I'm sure we can trace it all to some organization a bunch of these guys belonged to at the same time.
     
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    A lot of things stand out about that game, how they were teeing off vs ALL of our pitchers. How Bill Miller rigged the strike zone for them. Shadiest fucking game I have ever seen. Game 2 also and Laz Diaz conveniently running into a pickoff throw with the winning run on second base to Cody’s ball dying at the warning track.
     
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    BlueMouse 2020 World Champions

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    Darvish was pitching great that postseason too. If the Astros don't tag him for 4 runs in Game 3, we likely win that game too.

    Dissect it further, in the ALDS + ALCS the Astros were 6-0 at home and 1-4 on the road (with a -20 run differential on the road). And this was after stealing HFA in the AL. Playing straight, they probably still win the division in 2017 but promptly get swept by a good Indians team.

    The 2017 Astros had no business getting past the ALDS, let alone winning the WS.
     
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    Gonna be bitter about this for a long time
     
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    I was a journalism major, too. Worked for a couple of small town dailies for about 3 yrs. Was going to be the next Jim Murray. Small problem........newspapers paid pauper's wages.
     
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    Hard to pitch from the trainer's room.
     
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    Mlb probably has a deal to help them after the league change.
    Even if they don't. Unspoken rules of you scratch my back and I'll let you slide with slaps on the wrist until your itch gets scratched too.
     
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    We have the technology.
     
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    Is it beamed or beaned.... we’ve always called it beaned, but I grew up with Mexicans so ... now im conflicted...haha
     
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    It happened in '51, too.

    This is from the LA Times.

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    y ASSOCIATED PRESS
    JAN. 16, 2020

    2:52 PM
    NEW YORK —

    Stealing signals. Banging on a trash can. Beating the Dodgers in October.

    Sounds very familiar to Carl Erskine.

    “If they’re going to go back to 2017 with penalties for the Astros,” he said Wednesday, “then I want them to go all the way back to 1951 to help us.”

    The old Brooklyn pitcher was laughing. Sort of.


    Now 93, Erskine vividly recalled what — until this week — had been the biggest sign-stealing scandal in baseball history.


    Up by 13 1/2 games in mid-August, Jackie Robinson and the Dodgers seemed destined. That was until rookie Willie Mays and the New York Giants came flying back, fueled by an incredible, late run in home games at the Polo Grounds, and forced a best-of-three playoff for the National League pennant.

    Erskine was warming up in the Brooklyn bullpen in Game 3 when Bobby Thomson connected for the famed “Shot Heard ‘Round the World,” a three-run homer in the bottom of the ninth off Ralph Branca that rallied the Giants to a 5-4 win.

    A half-century later, a giant secret was revealed: The Giants had rigged a spyglass-and-buzzer system in late July to steal catchers’ signals and tip off their hitters.



    “We thought something was going on, we were suspicious, but we couldn’t prove anything,” Erskine said from his home in Anderson, Indiana. “I remember Ralph said to me, ‘I bet those dirty birds are cheating.’”

    Herman Franks, a former Dodger who had become a Giants coach, was stationed in the home clubhouse, above the 483-foot mark in center field. From a darkened window, he spied on catchers with a telescope, then relayed the signs.

    When a buzzer rang in the New York bullpen — conveniently located in play back then, in deep right-center field — a Giants player who might waggle a white towel would signal to the hitter what kind of pitch was coming.
    “A batter wouldn’t even have to move his head,” Erskine said. “It was right over the pitcher’s left shoulder. Just shift your eyes to about 2 o’clock and you’d see it.”

    Several years after the scheme came to light, Erskine saw an obituary for Franks.

    “I emailed Ralph and said to him: ‘Old Giants never die, they just steal away,'“ Erskine said.

    Popularly known as “Oisk“ by Brooklyn fans of “The Boys of Summer,” Erskine made his big league debut in 1948 and spent all 12 years of his career with the Dodgers, finishing with Los Angeles. The right-hander was 16-12 in 1951 and went 122-78 overall with two no-hitters. He went to the World Series five times.

    Erskine said he’s read some about the Astros’ scam, how they swiped signs from a video feed in center field and clanged a trash can to alert hitters to what pitch was coming. Houston closed out 2017 by beating the Dodgers in the World Series.


    “You mean in this high-tech world they had to revert to that?” he said, chuckling. “In the commissioner’s mind, it’s probably a lot of garbage he wished had never happened.”

    Not that Erskine and the Dodgers didn’t try things in their day.

    “TV was still new in my era, in the early 1950s. We had a television in our clubhouse at Ebbets Field and when the opposing catcher or coach or manager would go to the mound, we’d try to read lips, to see what he was saying to the pitcher,” Erskine said.

    “Just fishing for anything. Pretty spotty results,” he said. “But I guess it was a preliminary for what was to come later.”
     
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    All depends what department you worked in ...back in the day, you could make really nice money if you were creative enough, believe me.
     
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    Wood is what we get.
     
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    I worked in news dept, both straight (no homo) news and later as a sports editor. Both papers were non-union.

    The only way to make a decent wage back then was to be part of a union shop.

    Unfortunately newspapers are we knew them are dead today for many reasons.
     
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    Dodgers front office is probably enjoying all the news about the cheating.

    Focus shifted away from the shitty ass offseason we just had
     
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    I fell out of love with it as a lot of people in the industry told me it was dying and it took forever to break in. I was cocky and dumb, therefore decided I didn't want to do something that could take many years for me to get established. Really glad I chose a separate path knowing that through my mid-late 20's I was incredibly volatile and would say something without thinking. That would have cost me MANY jobs in the business. I still do it, but not nearly to the degree I used to. I'd rather be a fan anyway.
     
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    I honestly do not know how they think they can come to camp with this roster after everything they parroted over the offseason. Not only is it a slap in the face to the fans, what about the players? These guys hear that they are going to have massive turnover and then not a thing changes? Half the roster is going to be looking over their shoulder now thinking they could be traded at any minute. Maybe all this Asterisks/Sox bullshit inspires the guys into "fuck you" mode and they crush, but there is just as much of a possibility of these guys feeling they're not wanted and play below their standards. This is usually how these MLB empires fall, it's not necessarily aging out, it's money and chemistry that can come into play.
     
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    Print journalism became a romantic profession of sorts during the Woodward/Bernstein Watergate era.

    Mostly a joke now.
     
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    100%


    With all the postseason misery we've experienced in recent memory, this franchise needed a shot in the arm and all we got was a kick in the balls.
     
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    Nothing exciting there...I get it every morning ( almost every morning).
    For years and years.
    A fucking yawn now...
     
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