I have explained. Diablo said there is no such thing. I said there is but that it is not a problem. Problems are things you can fix. Things that you can't fix are left to god. Remember serenity now? If this troubles you then go try and fix them. But if you could you would, right? But you can't so all you can do is what? Keep hammering home the fact that there are more white people in america? No one is arguing that point. It is a silly nonsensical thing to bring up and bring up and bring up. And even sillier to get angry that nobody cares. Now what is being argued which you might not care to argue is that white privilege is not what is adversely affecting people in this country. Diablo and I agree on this point. Not that there is no white privilege but that it is not the cause of problems. The root of the problem is white supremacy. And many people that benefit from white supremacy are not angles or saxons. White supremacy benefits you. Not white privilege. Because this country could be 10% white people and the rest be split between blacks, latinos, and the chinese and not much would change if white supremacy still rules. How do you think it worked in South Africa? How do you think it worked on the plantation. There were a lot more minorities than the majority. The doctrine of white privilege being sold to our youth and to elders who want to be hip is nothing more than mob rule mentality. That is probably why Diablo brought the persecution card out. Because that is the logical conclusion to this mentality. I see the writing on the wall clearly. Both the history books and the bible explain it so. You can ridicule my posts as trying to be a seer or a shaman. I hope you are playing around and don't actually believe that nonsense. What I write are extrapolations from those books using language/memetics that I think this audience would more readily accept. I will make 20 calls out to classic rock songs from before my time because I am talking to people from before my time. There is a lot of information condensed in the lyrics of a song. Someone else in the past that saw what was happening then and what would be the results of that happening in the future. God gave rock n roll to us so we A love of reading allows you to travel time. Backward and forwards. You can't know what is going to happen. You can only know what is happening, But if you have seen these causes in the past you should know how to better understand the upcoming effect. Its not mysticism. That is for yoga chicks. Some people can get a feel for the culture and take a proper temperature. Maybe that's Diablo. I don't know how he derives at his conclusions. But I study and analyze because it is my favorite sport. There are more whites in america than any other people is a stone cold fact! White supremacy is responsible for the oppression of minorities of all racial and socioeconomic classes. Not all people involved in white supremacy are from the white racial subspecies. But whites are the perpetrators. These whites are generally called the 1% and they are composed mostly of whites and jews and arabs, and asians and a few latinos and blacks. They have FUCK YOU money. As in 'we gonna fuck you and your wife and your children' money. The money you see is just a means to an end. What they want is to fuck you over and out. Those that don't are not in this group. But this group self selects. And there is a percentage of the population that benefits from what they do. That is the 10% you and Diablo both probably belong to. The rest of the population is the majority of black and white and latino and every other race. The issue is not race. But the enemy wants to divide the races so they can fight. The issue is not rich people. But the enemy wants to divide the rich from the poor so they can fight. The issue is not class. But the enemy wants to divide the classes so they can fight. The issue is violent, rapists, murderers, and child fucking motherfuckers in places of power and influence. If you think solutions come from one race or class or tax bracket then your only recourse is to destroy those people. Which is why you get these anti rich movements, anti x race movements and general class warfare. It is on purpose. It has always existed. You are pissing in the wind. They will foment these things because they know that the 10% will pay for the sins of the 1% when it comes to race/class/economic warfare. And they (you and diablo) are sacrificed merely to buy time for them. Time for them to finish turning the masses on each other after they take out you princes of the land. Because ultimately you noble princes are the elites most serious enemy. You are their guardians, benefactors and so you reap the rewards. The kings always fear the nobles because if the nobles get together against the kings they would win. Unfortunately, many nobles are desperate to be kings themselves. Or they don't want to stop their rewards from coming in on the reg. And this is always the reason why the kings win. Its not white power republican billy bob in the trailer park, and its not the democrat uptown with a better car and a bigger house than you. Because for a noble it is better to serve the enemy of the people than to serve the people. All the nobles give the people is their 2 cents. And a nobles 2 cents means absolutely nothing when they hold thousands in their pockets. The only people whose 2 cents are worthy of being listened to are those whose 2 cents affect their lives. And the very rare noble who speaks truth to the king and really cares about the plight of the people usually gets killed in one way or form. If your 2 cents does not affect your life then you are not only wasting your breath but you are masturbating publicly at the wishing well at the center of the park. And nobody wants to see that.
"The issue is not race. But the enemy wants to divide the races so they can fight". Bingo. And the fools that parrot it.
Soooo the statement above is what you're parroting because why? The issue is not race, that we agree.. nor was it the point. The issue IS Big $$$ using all sides to divide us, willingly. Maybe also true but once again... not the point Letting @rube do your arguing isn't benefiting you it seems. His logic wanders, yours didn't. Mine doesn't. He offers parables to imagine himself refuting basic facts. He doesn't. Nor does he care. Follow the minstrel, move along move along. He can refute anything, even his own refutations. Just watch. LOL but we love your madness because it calms us knowing that someone semi makes sense and is crazier than me, no small act. No one attempts to speak straight with me about the plain facts presented. (More whites=more white privilage.. nothing else. And Certainly NOT White Supremism despite @rubes wanderings) Why? Fear? Neither of you will ever admit that, so it must be something else. Because no one is ever afraid. Someone fears being singled out and extinguished like the Jews Someone fears his land being taken like the South Africans. Someone fears the loss of the white majority... someday. Someone fears uncomfortable facts. So? They don't hurt us. They personally don't even make 'me' feel bad. Personally, because WTF neither of us lived here 150 years ago and neither ever owned any slaves. My family 'were' the indentured slaves of the day. So were @LAdiablo 's. And so has gawd damned near everyone at some point in time ehh @rube?? You were a slave owner or a slave at some point in your families past. So? Didn't Tom Petty write a song about that? Again all I was trying to say, was since we whites have the numbers, we ought to admit to having the numbers. That's all white privilage really is BTW... aside from whatever crazy notion Rube spouts next. Or last. Someone fears that truth and I can't seem to get through. Now I'm dismissed, by proxy no less, in no uncertain terms as if that weren't even the topic at hand. It's my ball and you can go home if you don't like me illogical. Whatever Rube. Who's fighting? I said we whites have the numbers, we DO have the numbers, and thus by virtue of having the numbers we're afforded certain graces. Duh, should have been the reply... not all this weak apologetic guilty defensive shit... leave that fetid mess of personal guilt in the pews where its wanted. Neigh, rewarded even, Rube will share. Follow the light... Look back, I said and say still, that it's obvious we whites have certain privilages due to nothing other than being white in greater numbers. So? We never got to the 'so'...
You really start out ahead but fade quickly. Somehow you are alone not listening to other minorities (real and presumed afflicted) complain how EVERYONE has it harder than a white male?? And that they are right. My point (so far) being... So? Did we lose you already? Public doctrine has it that white males are the 'enabled' class so now we have this bullshit that everyone other than a white male should be given preference for being somehow 'disabled'?? Yep that's the prose put forth by others. Before this week I thought that I was in pretty firm agreement with @LAdiablo about that topic and that it's one thing to offer poor citizens a helping hand to better themselves it's another completely to think that a) I should pay for it or b) that I should not be permitted those services simply because I'm a white male. In my book we've crossed over to State enforced discrimination when that happens. Umm and we're there. Oh and BTW your rant twisting the concept of Noble was ignoble and not worthy of reply. Except in the vein that I sensed you were really trying to calm the waters on the Fetid Politics thread as much as anything... in which case you're forgiven. That will be 10 Hail Mary's and 350 Our Father's.
now i'm letting Ruven do my arguing? lmao you're just a parrot tell me how socialism works and this is actually Barry's economy you might as well be the my pillow guy for the democratic party w your cross hanging out of your shirt you want me to break it down full racist for you? show me a country thats wasn't run by whites thats thriving thats just the facts same as there are more white people in this country you don't know how to act i get it i will continue to smile , greet and treat people like i want to be treated you just can't stand its not how you see it so you want the narrative shut down same thing you're actually accusing me of the fact that some here may or may not agree w me has zero to do w it tell me again how you're a conservative and republican fuck i wouldn't even lay claim to the republican part you're a fraud because you don't even really believe what you're saying so far you've blamed me for having some secret society here and running off posters then you vacillate back and forth about how i'm mincing words i know who i am and i'm just like any other man walking around here if it makes you feel good to martyr yourself on skin color go for it i'm ashamed for you
Nobody cares. You are not saying anything that anyone cares about. Because it is nothing. That is why nobody is arguing with you or taking up your cause. It is just not something anyone cares to talk about because it is an immaterial fact. Except Diablo because obviously you guys have a beef that has nothing to do with DSP or the fact that there are more white people in america (for now) than other races. This particular point being just the breaking point between you guys. I don't get it and don't like it. But I don't have to like it, it is between you two. I already talked to Diablo and reminded him about the importance of working on your friendships even more when they are strained. Both of you have reached out to me and my job is not to sit back and watch either of you destroy yourselves. My job is to bring you back into communion but not by parroting or babying one or the other. If you two don't want to be friends anymore then its a shame, unless its not. Only you guys know. I always try to calm the waters. Here and everywhere. That is what word flow is for. To calm people. Because people are water. You can forgive me but I have not said anything that should have offended you. Why would I fear that white people are to become a minority? I used to be called a MECHa member because I sometimes use the term Aztlan. I love the Aztlan stuff that I learned in chicano studies classes. But not politically. Im not a politician. It is a childhood dream of a utopia. Just not a brown utopia. I love the way Aztlan and Atlantis are two mythical places surrounded by water. And I would love if southern california became Aztlan. Maybe I am now a white guy? Because I like my white neighborhood with lots of nice clean parks to visit.
i reached out with respect to you and your site if i'm a net negative according to Capn then i expect you would tell me so then again he's said as much about you and your style i wasn't looking for council or a pat on the back but again, respect to your domain the fact is it is possible to various pov's and talk them out but when its under a veil of deceit and oh hey btw "its the white guys" you can go fuck yourself for me its a quality of life decision and i really didn't want this to air out here i'm fine w just blocking the guy and moving on i know exactly what i feel and don't need some misguided intellectual to tell me what i should feel unfortunately that appears impossible we used to have hell threads around here and not on the main page i've quite honestly just heard enough
I just thing this whole thing is fucking weird. I don't know how the fact that this country has more white people than any other people is a point of controversy. I must be a racist redneck white supremacists with hate so strong for blacks, mexicans, indians, and other colored people that I am blinded to the controversy? BTW there are net negatives on here. We dont single people out as deplorables. Everyone is given the opportunity to repent for being a douche. Because the reason this websites only rule is dont be a douche is because every single member here is one. And it takes one to no one. But are you a repentant douche, a recovering douche. Or are you a willful douche who still does not know that he too is a douche? Those are the two groups here. And everyone is allowed to move from douche to recovering douche. But first you must know that you are a douche before you can repent and walk it back. Repentant douches will on occasion slip back to their douche-like behaviour. That is also a right and privilege conveyed to DSP members who are perfect. Because that is what DSP is for. For perfect people. People who are repentant of their douchebaggery and reach out to hope so hope can help them change. And that is all you need to know to be perfect. Perfect is a verb not a noun. Perfect is not a state of mind. Perfect is the way not the destination. Because once you reach the destination you'll be dead. And only the dead are saints. To be perfect is to be. To not be perfect is to not be. That is the question asked by by the angry spear shaker in the sky. Do you understand what it is to be perfect? R-U-BE or are you not be?
The bible is a large book with many letters and many words. There is a short story in the bible. But it is told in a way that you have to read many letters and words to find it. When you find it it is like finding a gold mine or a pearl of great price. Do you tell people where the gold mine is or where exactly in the ocean your pearl is. No, you go register your claim to that mine, you go buy the gear you need to extract that pearl. And you do it quietly. You go find your friends. Those that follow you share in your good fortune. First there is a lot of work to do. Obviously some investment. Work and investment almost force you stay humble. Because if you don't then every tom dick and harry is going to come sniffing around. If those guys get a hold of something good they will pollute it. Oh know i've said too much... I better get some dream sleep. Like Tom Bombadil.
thats some funny shit that isn't the controversy at all he keeps shifting it back to that and asking what we're arguing about its in keeping w the shape shifters and the agenda they share by any means baffle em w bullshit and the such once you see it you can't look away and i wouldn't be looking for any repentance i repented? when did that happen lol.
Wow the thread comes down to repent?? Umm alrighty then. You guys enjoy that fire and brimstone sermon yourselves, I'll wait in the car. Look I've not set out to piss out anyone but sharing plain facts did that. My view is that 'while whites have the majority, we enjoy white privilage" for no reasons other than majority. Simple. So in mixed conversation I don't spout off about there not being any such thing as white privilage because I can go damned near anywhere I want without issues encountered by my darker skinned friends. That's all I'm sharing. It should be obvious to all. I know what it is because I enjoy it every day. Most everywhere I'll go. As will most of us. If there were someone here being traumatized by whites on a daily occurence then they too might share that whites have control. As Rube pointed out this is obvious and also as he said, so what? We never got that far in the conversation because whites being in the majority got twisted, by others, into white supremacy. Not by me. Looking at you @rube. So what that is exactly is, that America was intended to be a country free to all races. Not tough to agree with, in theory. Except by Faux News viewers it seems. So I don't mind blacks, latinos or asians running for office. Good, those old doddering ancient white thieves in Congress could use some new blood. That includes Pelosi and Shumer in case you think that I think they might be exempt. Nope, they are a giant part of the problem but then so is McConnell and much more so Jeff Sessions. Anyone in Congress over the age of 70 is a problem. (8 are over 80 and 17 more are over 70) If they've never voted across party lines they are the problem. The core requirement is that whites in majority allow the others to participate. OK we kind of do. Queue any of Rubes longwinded examples to the contrary. Ain't nobody trying to trigger anyone. I never thought I said anything so controversial so I'm perplexed at the replies. Email gets read wrong, expressive emotions do not get conveyed. Or twisted by 3rd parties merely for sport and then feeeeeeeeeeelings... No one called anybody a White Supremist.. except @rube Notice the absense of any hostility on my part.
Nor did I Here at DSP nobody has to care. I don't give a shit though I still maintain that if I'm walking anywhere in East LA then Latino Privilage exists.. big time. Been there, seen that. So? It just is. Just don't say it isn't. Never the intent. Acknowledging the obvious doesn't make anyone a victim nor an oppressor either. Never said anything of the sort. Thus proving to all that you ARE a friend. In my head this will in no way affect whether we share beers or talk smack on other topics in the future. I'm frustrated at such a simple impasse but it's irrelevant, I've got @LAdiablo 's back either way. He can vote to change that but it's just a vote. I'm still going to look out wherever I can. Kind of like this was trying to be. Queue the old Fleetwood Mac..
good point, one I have no intention of denying. Of course one might point out that your current statement drives elsewhere... I'm not going there. Nope I like that narrative, why shut it down? What fraud? I know what I said was simple enough we ALL should agree. no fraud there buddy. I didn't realize all the overtones you're responding to have anything at all to do with the original point.. not denying white privilage. While I admit to enjoying white privilage, as you do, I don't see what that has to do with all of the other 'white supremist' conversation? Am I missing that you see them as the same? I mean I know @rube goes off about it but I'm not seeing any links myself. I can be a white, in the vast majority, and not be close to a white supremist. At all. ?? too many late night movies? No shifting here buddy. Yeah I have NO idea where this comes from? I have not blamed whites for anything. I'm also not inclined to do so except for acknowledging that this corrupt damned DC system was gamed.. by old white guys. But otherwise I hadn't brought up anything so charged.. I thought. If we are talking things old white guys have hosed it's certainly Congress, no one else was there to fuck it up but a few stray minorities. Yeah Congress, both corrupt houses, is on US whiteys. We whites keep electing these crooked fucks thinking that 'someone' will be different. Well, we got different didn't we? Just not where it counts it seems.
Ive never enxountered white privelege. Nor brown in east LA. That is something gaping pussies feel. Im a hard unfeeling dick. I dont feel shit. Only ass kissers feel shit when they spit. You hate old white men Cap. That is fucked up. Our representatives should be old men. That is the design this temple is built upon. The US was not built for all to come freely. It was built as a smelting furnace for european culture when europe was oveerun by papists, pagans and satanists. American culture is the cream of european culture. Built by those persecuted for the sake of Jesus. And the Irish and Italians did not qualify and you know why. Neither did communists jews and jesuit inquisitors. This is america. We just living in it. You want whites to spread cheeks and get rapes by some mullahs like in the viking lands worldwide. Everywhere a viking landed white people are getting fucked in the ass. Those nords who helped build the modern world by conquest would be rolling in rheir graves if they werent cremated. It is them now getting raped and pillaged while another mana seed is planted on his motherland. Are you happy bout that? Fuck old whitey says cap. If they no good at using their old age and senatorial colored whiskers to be sages and wisemen what are these elder statesmen good for... The glue factory. White men built this country on the backs of workers from every part ofbthe world inxluding african slaves. Then america repented and over time incorporated them so that a cream from them will also rise to challenge the ptb CHALLENGE. Because nobody gets nothing for free. You gotta take it from these old mens cold dead hands.
Once again left side of Rube's mouth meet right side of Rube's mouth. Are you now about to claim that you, NEVER in your whole life, ever spoke Spanish with a white person present, merely because the majority of those present were latino?? C'mon man the Mexican's I know speak Spanish INTENTIONALLY when whites are around, just so that whites don't know what is being said. But not @rube? Umm sure. Sound familiar? Now give me some doubletalk or vaccuous prattle that you're innocent of that habit or accept the fecking truth for once. Stop arguing the basic tenets so that we actually can grow. and "IF" that were true then there would be a whole lot less grief on this thread. So.. yeah more BS Nice name calling when you can't focus and remain in denial. I'm not saying anything new, nor revolutionary. It's been around forever. You guys can deny it but then you're just being deniers. Dare I broach Climate Change lawd knows what names I'd be called next by this right wing echo chamber.. Incorrect again, you might want to cease trying to state my views and stick with expressing your own. What I hate is the closed minded non-cooperative thieves ruining our country from Congress. Oh and they are white. mostly men but Feinstein is the eldest so I'm still against all doddering theives. The fact that YOU ARE NOT upset about our elected leadership is what is truly fucked up. Care at all ever? I guess not. As you well know I AM an old white man, and I really don't hate on any class of citizen so please provide evidence before making further incorrect accusations. Spoken like a truest and most thorough of losers. It ain't 'my' problem, I just live here. WTF man? Thought you cared 'at all' about the country you live in. Oh yeah.. this latest phlegm comes from our mighty DSP spiritual leader once again extolling not voting at all. Because it's all so damned hopeless living in a representative democracy. So where are you moving? Yeah about that nonsense too. Man you got this left side of mouth right side of mouth shit working well oiled don't you? Thought you were a man of principles. See I can be wrong too.
Dude quit assigning your sick sexual fantasies to others... Own your sick mind... Ain't no one else saying things like that except YOU trying to get a rise by spewing hateful lies. No one is getting ass raped, you're merely revealing YOUR OWN delusions (or fantasies. Not judging.) and my happiness is not a discussion focus of this thread, but thanks for caring... even if your way off base.. again
Things that DSP posters appear unwilling to learn... for fear of ... I do not agree with everything in her essay but she uses nicer words, and better examples, to attempt to describe the concepts which I described so poorly. https://medium.com/@katstory/white-people-are-broken-ab0fe873e5d3 And for the record, in advance, I'm NOT saying that whites are any more or less broken than any other race. They re not. But since WE whites are in control, someone is going to need to step up to pry our foot off of the accelerator of racial tension that our stupid fecking leader is intent on mashing to the firewall. It's the collective of all USA citizens that are suffering the brunt of current ignorance and hostility. Therefore anything said or done to remove power from this current racist administration is in our countries best interests. Supporting tRump = Supporting racism. You don't have to admit it.. we can all see how you feel when reading your posts
Your support of the Angels makes total sense now. Mental illness. Why dont you call up Artie and get a suite for you, Rachel Maddow and Don Lemon. My treat.