FEDIT POLITICS Thread

"The issue is not race. But the enemy wants to divide the races so they can fight".
Bingo.
And the fools that parrot it.

 

Soooo the statement above is what you're parroting because why?
The issue is not race, that we agree.. nor was it the point.
The issue IS Big $$$ using all sides to divide us, willingly. Maybe also true but once again... not the point

Letting @rube do your arguing isn't benefiting you it seems.
His logic wanders, yours didn't. Mine doesn't.
He offers parables to imagine himself refuting basic facts. He doesn't. Nor does he care. Follow the minstrel, move along move along. He can refute anything, even his own refutations. Just watch. LOL but we love your madness because it calms us knowing that someone semi makes sense and is crazier than me, no small act.
No one attempts to speak straight with me about the plain facts presented. (More whites=more white privilage.. nothing else. And Certainly NOT White Supremism despite @rubes wanderings)
Why? Fear? Neither of you will ever admit that, so it must be something else. Because no one is ever afraid.

Someone fears being singled out and extinguished like the Jews
Someone fears his land being taken like the South Africans.
Someone fears the loss of the white majority... someday.

Someone fears uncomfortable facts. So? They don't hurt us. They personally don't even make 'me' feel bad.
Personally, because WTF neither of us lived here 150 years ago and neither ever owned any slaves. My family 'were' the indentured slaves of the day. So were @LAdiablo 's. And so has gawd damned near everyone at some point in time ehh @rube?? You were a slave owner or a slave at some point in your families past. So? Didn't Tom Petty write a song about that?

Again all I was trying to say, was since we whites have the numbers, we ought to admit to having the numbers.
That's all white privilage really is BTW... aside from whatever crazy notion Rube spouts next. Or last.

Someone fears that truth and I can't seem to get through.
Now I'm dismissed, by proxy no less, in no uncertain terms as if that weren't even the topic at hand. It's my ball and you can go home if you don't like me illogical. Whatever Rube.

Who's fighting? I said we whites have the numbers, we DO have the numbers, and thus by virtue of having the numbers we're afforded certain graces. Duh, should have been the reply... not all this weak apologetic guilty defensive shit... leave that fetid mess of personal guilt in the pews where its wanted. Neigh, rewarded even, Rube will share. Follow the light...

Look back, I said and say still, that it's obvious we whites have certain privilages due to nothing other than being white in greater numbers. So?


We never got to the 'so'...

 

You really start out ahead but fade quickly. Somehow you are alone not listening to other minorities (real and presumed afflicted) complain how EVERYONE has it harder than a white male?? And that they are right. My point (so far) being... So?

Did we lose you already?
Public doctrine has it that white males are the 'enabled' class so now we have this bullshit that everyone other than a white male should be given preference for being somehow 'disabled'??

Yep that's the prose put forth by others.
Before this week I thought that I was in pretty firm agreement with @LAdiablo about that topic and that it's one thing to offer poor citizens a helping hand to better themselves it's another completely to think that a) I should pay for it or b) that I should not be permitted those services simply because I'm a white male.

In my book we've crossed over to State enforced discrimination when that happens.

Umm and we're there.


Oh and BTW your rant twisting the concept of Noble was ignoble and not worthy of reply. Except in the vein that I sensed you were really trying to calm the waters on the Fetid Politics thread as much as anything... in which case you're forgiven.



That will be 10 Hail Mary's and 350 Our Father's.

 

now i'm letting Ruven do my arguing? lmao
you're just a parrot
tell me how socialism works and this is actually Barry's economy
you might as well be the my pillow guy for the democratic party w your cross hanging out of your shirt
you want me to break it down full racist for you?
show me a country thats wasn't run by whites thats thriving
thats just the facts same as there are more white people in this country
you don't know how to act i get it
i will continue to smile , greet and treat people like i want to be treated
you just can't stand its not how you see it so you want the narrative shut down
same thing you're actually accusing me of
the fact that some here may or may not agree w me has zero to do w it
tell me again how you're a conservative and republican
fuck i wouldn't even lay claim to the republican part
you're a fraud because you don't even really believe what you're saying
so far you've blamed me for having some secret society here and running off posters
then you vacillate back and forth about how i'm mincing words
i know who i am and i'm just like any other man walking around here
if it makes you feel good to martyr yourself on skin color go for it
i'm ashamed for you

 

i reached out with respect to you and your site
if i'm a net negative according to Capn then i expect you would tell me so
then again he's said as much about you and your style
i wasn't looking for council or a pat on the back but again, respect to your domain
the fact is it is possible to various pov's and talk them out
but when its under a veil of deceit and oh hey btw "its the white guys" you can go fuck yourself
for me its a quality of life decision and i really didn't want this to air out here
i'm fine w just blocking the guy and moving on
i know exactly what i feel and don't need some misguided intellectual to tell me what i should feel
unfortunately that appears impossible
we used to have hell threads around here and not on the main page
i've quite honestly just heard enough

 

ok but its not mine
oh wait i just asked for 3 paragraphs lol

 

thats some funny shit
that isn't the controversy at all
he keeps shifting it back to that and asking what we're arguing about
its in keeping w the shape shifters and the agenda they share
by any means
baffle em w bullshit and the such
once you see it you can't look away and i wouldn't be looking for any repentance
i repented? when did that happen lol.

 

Wow the thread comes down to repent?? Umm alrighty then. You guys enjoy that fire and brimstone sermon yourselves, I'll wait in the car.

Look I've not set out to piss out anyone but sharing plain facts did that. My view is that 'while whites have the majority, we enjoy white privilage" for no reasons other than majority. Simple. So in mixed conversation I don't spout off about there not being any such thing as white privilage because I can go damned near anywhere I want without issues encountered by my darker skinned friends. That's all I'm sharing. It should be obvious to all. I know what it is because I enjoy it every day. Most everywhere I'll go. As will most of us. If there were someone here being traumatized by whites on a daily occurence then they too might share that whites have control. As Rube pointed out this is obvious and also as he said, so what? We never got that far in the conversation because whites being in the majority got twisted, by others, into white supremacy. Not by me. Looking at you @rube.

So what that is exactly is, that America was intended to be a country free to all races. Not tough to agree with, in theory. Except by Faux News viewers it seems.

So I don't mind blacks, latinos or asians running for office. Good, those old doddering ancient white thieves in Congress could use some new blood. That includes Pelosi and Shumer in case you think that I think they might be exempt. Nope, they are a giant part of the problem but then so is McConnell and much more so Jeff Sessions. Anyone in Congress over the age of 70 is a problem. (8 are over 80 and 17 more are over 70) If they've never voted across party lines they are the problem.

The core requirement is that whites in majority allow the others to participate. OK we kind of do. Queue any of Rubes longwinded examples to the contrary.

Ain't nobody trying to trigger anyone.
I never thought I said anything so controversial so I'm perplexed at the replies.
Email gets read wrong, expressive emotions do not get conveyed. Or twisted by 3rd parties merely for sport and then feeeeeeeeeeelings...
No one called anybody a White Supremist.. except @rube
Notice the absense of any hostility on my part.

 

Nor did I

Here at DSP nobody has to care. I don't give a shit though I still maintain that if I'm walking anywhere in East LA then Latino Privilage exists.. big time. Been there, seen that. So? It just is. Just don't say it isn't.

Never the intent. Acknowledging the obvious doesn't make anyone a victim nor an oppressor either. Never said anything of the sort.

Thus proving to all that you ARE a friend.
In my head this will in no way affect whether we share beers or talk smack on other topics in the future.
I'm frustrated at such a simple impasse but it's irrelevant, I've got @LAdiablo 's back either way.
He can vote to change that but it's just a vote.
I'm still going to look out wherever I can.
Kind of like this was trying to be.


Queue the old Fleetwood Mac..

 

good point, one I have no intention of denying. Of course one might point out that your current statement drives elsewhere... I'm not going there.

Nope I like that narrative, why shut it down?

What fraud? I know what I said was simple enough we ALL should agree. no fraud there buddy.
I didn't realize all the overtones you're responding to have anything at all to do with the original point.. not denying white privilage.
While I admit to enjoying white privilage, as you do, I don't see what that has to do with all of the other 'white supremist' conversation?
Am I missing that you see them as the same? I mean I know @rube goes off about it but I'm not seeing any links myself.
I can be a white, in the vast majority, and not be close to a white supremist. At all.

?? too many late night movies? No shifting here buddy.

Yeah I have NO idea where this comes from? I have not blamed whites for anything. I'm also not inclined to do so except for acknowledging that this corrupt damned DC system was gamed.. by old white guys. But otherwise I hadn't brought up anything so charged.. I thought. If we are talking things old white guys have hosed it's certainly Congress, no one else was there to fuck it up but a few stray minorities. Yeah Congress, both corrupt houses, is on US whiteys. We whites keep electing these crooked fucks thinking that 'someone' will be different.

Well, we got different didn't we?

Just not where it counts it seems.

 

Once again left side of Rube's mouth meet right side of Rube's mouth.
Are you now about to claim that you, NEVER in your whole life, ever spoke Spanish with a white person present, merely because the majority of those present were latino?? C'mon man the Mexican's I know speak Spanish INTENTIONALLY when whites are around, just so that whites don't know what is being said. But not @rube? Umm sure. Sound familiar? Now give me some doubletalk or vaccuous prattle that you're innocent of that habit or accept the fecking truth for once. Stop arguing the basic tenets so that we actually can grow.

and "IF" that were true then there would be a whole lot less grief on this thread. So.. yeah more BS

Nice name calling when you can't focus and remain in denial. I'm not saying anything new, nor revolutionary. It's been around forever. You guys can deny it but then you're just being deniers.
Dare I broach Climate Change lawd knows what names I'd be called next by this right wing echo chamber..

Incorrect again, you might want to cease trying to state my views and stick with expressing your own.
What I hate is the closed minded non-cooperative thieves ruining our country from Congress. Oh and they are white. mostly men but Feinstein is the eldest so I'm still against all doddering theives. The fact that YOU ARE NOT upset about our elected leadership is what is truly fucked up. Care at all ever? I guess not. As you well know I AM an old white man, and I really don't hate on any class of citizen so please provide evidence before making further incorrect accusations.

Spoken like a truest and most thorough of losers. It ain't 'my' problem, I just live here. WTF man? Thought you cared 'at all' about the country you live in. Oh yeah.. this latest phlegm comes from our mighty DSP spiritual leader once again extolling not voting at all. Because it's all so damned hopeless living in a representative democracy. So where are you moving? Yeah about that nonsense too. Man you got this left side of mouth right side of mouth shit working well oiled don't you? Thought you were a man of principles.

See I can be wrong too.

 

Dude quit assigning your sick sexual fantasies to others... Own your sick mind... Ain't no one else saying things like that except YOU trying to get a rise by spewing hateful lies.

No one is getting ass raped, you're merely revealing YOUR OWN delusions (or fantasies. Not judging.)



and my happiness is not a discussion focus of this thread, but thanks for caring... even if your way off base.. again

 

Things that DSP posters appear unwilling to learn... for fear of ...

I do not agree with everything in her essay but she uses nicer words, and better examples, to attempt to describe the concepts which I described so poorly.

https://medium.com/@katstory/white-people-are-broken-ab0fe873e5d3

And for the record, in advance, I'm NOT saying that whites are any more or less broken than any other race. They re not. But since WE whites are in control, someone is going to need to step up to pry our foot off of the accelerator of racial tension that our stupid fecking leader is intent on mashing to the firewall.

It's the collective of all USA citizens that are suffering the brunt of current ignorance and hostility. Therefore anything said or done to remove power from this current racist administration is in our countries best interests.

Supporting tRump = Supporting racism.

You don't have to admit it.. we can all see how you feel when reading your posts

 

Your support of the Angels makes total sense now. Mental illness.
Why dont you call up Artie and get a suite for you, Rachel Maddow and Don Lemon. My treat.