Dee Appreciation

except that one guy at all the WS games

 

Congrats Dee, you have escaped oppressive California income taxes.

 

Dig a little deeper.

First of all, the numbers you quote cover all of 118 plate appearances.

Second, as the first hitter of the game (even smaller sample) he's at .263/.440/.421.

Third, as the first hitter of an inning he's at .306/.338/.441.

So, yeah, lead off.

 

and the small sample size is all the more reason to keep him where he's had the most work and been the most successful.

if you look around, we have just 2 right handed run producers..one of them can't be trusted to have big league ABs on a consistent basis ( Puig) and that guy is also not to be held up by Gonzalez on the basepaths. so that means Kendrick is the righty protection for AGon by default. so yea, no lead off.

 

937 PA's leading off an inning is not SSS, at .306/.338/.441.

Uribe can back up AGon. Puig is going to have to develop into being trusted to have big league AB's (or what the fuck is his value if he doesn't?). He's going into his third season, time to man up.

So yeah, lead off. He's going to get on base more often than old man Rollins and therefore be a duck on the pond for Puig, AGon, and Uribe to drive in.

 

" leading off an inning " is not the same as being a " leadoff hitter ". i probably should've nuked that stat earlier.

holy hell, i'm glad you won't be making out the lineup.

he'll develop in time. however, this club is being put together to make an immediate run. he's gonna be protected..not give protection.

and never should Puig hit behind AGon and be faced with the scenario of AGon pinning him down on the basepaths anyway.

no leading off. he's gonna drive in runs and give protection..what he's always been asked to do. no reinventions.

 

This might be shocking as hell but...it looks like we are going to disagree.:argue:

For the record, I NEVER said Puig should hit behind Agon.

Also, for the record, the "lead off hitter" might "lead off an inning" twice a game on an average, if you round it up. But the real value is that first AB, if the hitter can get on base and make the pitcher feel pressure in that first inning before he has had a chance to settle in and find a rythym then you have a chance to open up the game early. So you clearly want a hitter that has the ability to get on base more consistently to get that first AB. And that hitter would be Kendrick.

 

damn right. especially in that Uribe should protect AGon. :dizzy:

the value in the leadoff spot is getting on base in front of those that have the most ability to drive you in. you want your 3-4-5 hitters/run producers at the plate with the leadoff man on the bases for every single one of their ABs..not just to start the game. and Kendrick drives in runs..our only righty with a long history of doing such at a high level.

you'll see when the season begins and we'll revisit this thread.

 

And the first inning is the ONLY guarantee you have of setting up that possibility. The lead off man conceivably may not appear in the same inning with the 3-4-5 hitters the rest of the game.

 

the point wasn't that each and every one of those guys had to appear with the leadoff man on base..the point i was making was that every AB is important..not just the 1st. of course managers would like it to line up that way every time, but it may just be the 3-hole guy that gets those opportunities that day, or these days some managers are even putting run producers in the 2-hole to make sure they get up there. again, you just want the leadoff guy on in front of those who have the most ability to drive him in.

but what you have there is actually why you're making too much of the leadoff spot in general right now. if the team has good OBP guys hitting 2-4, the 5 hitter is still in position to drive in runs and that's the point here..that's what Kendrick does and that's what we're gonna need with Hanley/Kemp gone..that and protection for AGon.

Uribe protecting AGon is a joke. you wanna take a guy who's dependable when it comes to driving in runs and providing protection and move him out from behind our best hitter..it makes no sense considering who else is on this team. again, we'll revisit this thread when the season begins. if the team is still the same as it is now, Kendrick will be protecting AGon.