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Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by irish, Apr 3, 2016.

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  1. jpldodgers

    jpldodgers DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

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    Offense lost us game 1 and 5 which feeds your point about our offense being our demise. Sure, ZG could have pitched better in game 5, but all I can think about is the wasted opportunities with RISP. As it stands right now, I could see the offense being our demise once again if we make the playoffs. They've been rolling lately, but I still think they another bat.
     
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    I don't dwell on it, TBH. We had the best 2 pitchers in baseball, and even without making a big move we were considered by many to be the team to beat. The FO gambled, and if they had won we could have had a WS ring and all the prospects to keep it going. I get it, that would have been awesome. But when other teams are going all out to add the final pieces and you don't, you will always be playing with a handicap going into the postseason.
     
  3. Fall Winslow

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    Lol The Hulkster in the 10 jersey, brother
    LAD needs to acquire some hair plugs for Hollywood Hogan at the deadline

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    We absolutely need another bat. If we acquire one, then we need to think about a starter...but not until.
     
  5. spanky006

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    Are you really going to tell me that you think that Anderson/Bolsinger/Frias/Wood is better than Maeda/Kazmir/Norris/McCarthy?
     
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    Overpriced??? He is getting paid 9m this year and 12M for the next two. That is Kershaw production for 1/3 the price.
     
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    If the Dodgers don't give up 13 runs in Game 3 then game 5 is inconsequential/unnecessary.
     
  8. Gebbeth

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    Then why didn't we get hitting that year while Seager was still raw, Joc was fading, and Puig was being Puig.

    Would having a one two three punch of Kershaw, Greinke, and Price/Cueto/Hamels not have helped mask some of the hitting issues by keeping opposing batters in check and taking pressure off the BP?

    I don't know what you're saying. Is there nothing that can be done to improve a teams chances to win in the playoffs?

    It all takes risk.

    I'm not for the ridiculous Sale deals, but last years mistakes should have informed this years moves.
     
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    Maybe not better, but not worse either. Pay attention to my posts, they have the same theme.

    "It's not the pitching!"

    This team is currently 8th in runs scored, and that's after a pretty good offensive run lately.

    They are 2nd in BAA, behind the Cubs by .007.

    Score more runs.
     
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    Why indeed.
     
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    Address the real weakness, scoring runs.
     
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    Yeah if guys wanna complain about not having the bullpen squared away, or having holes in the batting order, count me in.
    All this stuff over Price and Hamels and all these other starters, though, I mean we already had the best 1-2 punch and a #3 who pitched well too.
    Starting pitching was squared away...the bullpen was not, the offense was not.
    And Kershaw could've absolutely done better himself.
    I mostly just smile when I see it happening, I mean, again, the Phillies got it done with a pretty sketchy rotation and so did SFG and the Royals, and really I could keep reelin them off.
    Boston won behind Lester, Lackey and Peavy's bum ass.
    NYY won behind CC, old man Pettitte, and bums Burnett and Chamberlain.
    Etc.
    Phillies had Hamels, went out and got Cliff Lee and Roy Halladay and didn't bring home the WS trophy.
    I'm good with complaining, but lets complain about the right shit here...the bullpen, the offense, and Clayton Kershaw's post season performances.
     
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    I agree we do need bats, I also agree that our bats have come around a bit in the last month. That being said, there are really no impact bats out there that would be better than what we have now. Im not sure Bruce or Braun would be an upgrade. Now if Trout was available......absolutely. But those bats are not there. So, IF MGT is "big game" hunting like we all have red, then they have to be going after pitchers, as there are no "big game" bats to be had.
     
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    We won yesterday by scoring 9 runs...yes I understand.

    But we coughed up 6 runs.

    I see a problem that is not as simple as "get more hitting."

    Any other game, we would have lost with pitching like that.
     
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    first off
    he is not in the same league as kershaw
    no one is
    compare their era, fip and war
    second, by price my bad.. i meant what it would cost in prospects to acquire him
    no one knows for sure what type of players julio/holmes/verdugo/beuhler/deleon et al will ultimately be
    but i'd take my chances with 4-5 options over sale
    don't get me wrong, the guy is solid, an ace
    but he's not worth the price the sox are asking
    and as codge and others alluded, if kersh/zack couldn't get it done last year there's no reason to believe kersh/sale would
    our biggest problem is timely hitting
     
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    BTW, Scott Kazmir still hasn't lost a game since May 20th, and owns a 3.57 ERA and opp OBP of .298 since then and we continue to treat him like shit
     
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    Man... we need Kershaw back :pray: (no pun intended)
     
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    Ok, my bad. I will agree that Sale is not in the same as Kershaw, maybe not even Greinke worthy, but I think we can say he is a excellent #2 with the possibility of #1 status. However in this market there are not a ton of "Ace" type pitching. So the lack of "ace" pitchers does drive up the cost. Sure we could wait out Urias and company, but how many years do you think that will take? Kershaw has been in the league 9 years. Realistically how many years do you think he has? 2, 5, 7?? I duno. My worry is that when Urias is ready to dominate, Kershaw might be at the end of his career. That is not going to do us any good. We need some that can produce immediately in the next 2 years to be confident that Kershaw can compete with them.
     
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    I don't get the logic of "well we had the best 2 pitchers in baseball, and we lost, so it can't be the pitching" argument. One is not necessarily connected to the other.

    If you had a large order for gravel from a customer for a big contract, and had to deliver it 100 miles before the end of the day, and it wouldn't fit in two trucks, you have a choice to try to use just two trucks and make another round trip delivery or perhaps get 3 trucks instead.

    If you stick with 2 trucks, and one of the trucks gets a flat tire, and you didn't make the delivery on time, would you argue "well, we had 2 trucks and couldn't do it....might as well stick with one this time and get better tires."

    Perhaps having the security of an extra truck could have solved that problem.

    But I would not go into that same situation with the same 2 trucks.

    Yes it's all about cost and opportunity, but I just find it frustrating why it seems like this FO doesn't want to spend when it can and avoid the prospect trading scenario, or bite the bullet and trade for those right pieces.
     
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