Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by TheKnockdown, Jun 16, 2015.
killed it with that one, jpl. you the real MVP
not asking for anything unreasonable
just that the penalty fits the crime
if it was just some mid-level idiots involved, suspend them and fine the cards a suitable amount
if however guys like mozeliak, dewitt and/or matheny were even aware of it
then the penalty should be much more significant -- like losing their draft picks for three years
that might sound severe, but fuck it -- they cheated!
I guess this kinda gives new meaning to the phrase..."taking your hacks."
You see this isn't just like a MLB problem, there is a legal process involved. These guys are looking at prison time and termination of their jobs. It would just start there, then MLB comes in, and fines the team a hefty amount and who knows what else. Like some have said, this is worse than anything the Patriots have done, combined. Although that Astros GM is fucking stupid. So hard to change your damn passwords? What an idiot.
Brandon McCarthy @BMcCarthy32 8h8 hours ago
in keeping with baseball tradition, a Houston exec should walk into the STL offices and hit their best front office guy with a fastball
This guy can twitter with the best of them.
It can get ugly so fast can't it?
stop tweeting mccarthy
you're liable to re-injure yourself
I hope they get what's coming to them the cheating fucks!
You don't want anything harsh or devastating to happen to them ?
I hope they have something medevil happen to them....positively.
They're scums, and they got caught.
There is no right and wrong anymore...just caught or not caught.
"... Cardinals Chairman and CEO William O. Dewitt Jr. and General Manger John Mozeliak say anyone involved in hacking scandal will be held accountable..."
A third breach of Astros database by Cardinals found
By David Brown | CBS Sports — 3 hours ago
Once more into the breach. The Houston Chronicle reported Thursday that a third violation of the Houston Astros database by St. Louis Cardinals employees has been found during an ongoing FBI investigation. This news, along with the assertion by Astros general manager Jeff Luhnow that he didn't use stale passwords for the database, expands the scandal beyond what was initially thought.
Cardinals ownership, meeting concurrently with reporters, said the stain of the breaches touches the entire organization, no matter who perpetrated them.
Evan Drellich of the Chronicle writes:
The Chronicle on Thursday learned that the Cardinals had unauthorized access to Astros information as early as 2012, a year earlier than was previously known. Cards owner Bill DeWitt Jr., meanwhile, for the first time acknowledged that his organization had played a role in accessing proprietary information belonging to the Astros, blaming “roguish behavior.”
Meeting with reporters in St. Louis on Thursday along with general manager John Mozeliak, DeWitt said his own organization's investigation was still ongoing and did not specify which employee or employees were responsible, but told club workers on Thursday “we've all been tainted.”
“Those responsible will be held accountable,” DeWitt said, “and we will continue what we feel is a great franchise.”
The extent of the Cardinals' reach inside the Astros' organization isn't yet fully known but was not limited to one or two occasions, a person familiar with the details of the investigation said. The source asked for anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the case. The Chronicle has previously confirmed two breaches into the Astros system – one in 2013 and one in March of 2014. The FBI began its investigation after the 2014 breach.
Drellich's post also addressed the possibility of the Astros filing a civil suit against the Cardinals. They could, but it would be a challenge of MLB's rules that prohibit one franchise from suing another. More likely, the Astros would defer to MLB commissioner Rob Manfred. He could hand out punishments along these lines:
The commissioner's power to punish ranges from issuing a reprimand; barring a club from major league meetings; suspending or removing any team owner, officer or employee; levying a fine that can't exceed $2,000,000 in the case of a club, and no more than $500,000 in the case of an owner, officer or employee. The commissioner too can take away the benefit of any or all major league rules — which include, notably, the Rule 4 and 5 drafts. The Rule 4 draft is better known as the amateur draft. The rules too allow for other unspecified, punishments as the commissioner sees fit.
It depends on how much illegal activity these "roguish elements" are found to have done. If Manfred finds it reasonable that Mozeliak and/or DeWitt should have known about it, the commissioner could punish the Cardinals like the NFL did to the New England Patriots -- or much worse, possibly.
ever since their consulting agreement with Bill Bellicheat
Going to love a lot of the MLB radio hosts eating crow over this one
Cardinals fire Scouting Director as part of "investigation".
Cardinals Fire Scouting Director For Role In Astros Breach
By Steve Adams [July 2, 2015 at 4:55pm CDT]
4:55pm: Correa’s lawyer, Nicholas Williams, offered the following statement to Goold when reached for comment:
“Mr. Correa denies any illegal conduct. The relevant inquiry should be what information did former St. Louis Cardinals employees steal from the St. Louis Cardinals organization prior to joining the Houston Astros, and who in the Houston Astros organization authorized, consented to, or benefited from that roguish behavior.”
3:44pm: The Cardinals have fired scouting director Chris Correa for his role in the Cardinals’ breach of the Astros’ proprietary Ground Control computer network, reports Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Lawyers for the Cardinals tell Goold that Correa had already been on an “imposed leave of absence.”
Cardinals GM John Mozeliak, Correa, and Correa’s lawyers all declined to comment, but a source close to the investigation tells Goold that Correa has admitted to illegally accessing Ground Control. Correa, however, has said that his reason for accessing the network was only to attempt to verify that Astros GM Jeff Luhnow had taken proprietary information from the Cardinals with him to his new post in Houston. According to Goold’s source, Correa did not leak any data to the public and was not responsible for additional entries to the Astros’ network. The FBI is continuing its investigation into other members of the organization, and it seems likely that others are involved, if Correa has been determined to have accessed Ground Control only one time without leaking any of the data.
The firing of Correa reveals that the breach into the Astros’ computer network goes far higher up the chain of command in the Cardinals’ front office than many had originally believed. Correa was only recently promoted to scouting director back in December after previously serving as a qualitative analyst and director of baseball operations, as Baseball America’s John Manuel wrote at the time.
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