DODGERS How much do you value your posts, your post count, your likes...?

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by rube, Jul 30, 2018.

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Is your old data your 'precious" or are new posts the only thing that really matters?

Poll closed Aug 6, 2018.

  1. Lets keep DSP as is and be conservative and just try and work out the kinks.

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    33.3%

  2. Lets wipe the server clean and start fresh with a software upgrade to be kink free.

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    66.7%
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  1. Sauce

    Sauce Troll

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    Allow me to enlighten you all about an event
    that occurred several years ago
    Circa November 2011
    DSP was thriving
    (I’m serious)
    Matt Kemp was a superstar
    Rubby De La Rosa was the future
    The dodgers section was extremely active
    The Yankees section was twice as active as the Dodgers section
    And then
    ...
    The purge happened
    PSD received an influx of new members for the interim
    And a week later
    when DSP went live again
    Only a handful of posters returned
    The once popular Yankees section
    One that dominated DSP
    Started to resemble the cardinals section
    More than it’s past glory
    The dodgers section
    Although appearing to have survived the purge
    Lost a lot of quality members
    7 years later DSP is still struggling
    There’s much bigger problems than fixing a few bugs
    Perhaps a purge is necessary
    But not the purge you all are suggesting
    But maybe one
    That erases users who push people away due to their toxic beliefs and behaviors
    If you had to ask yourself if I’m talking about you
    Then, yes, I mean you
    ...
    differences aside,
    The pros of wiping the server clean just aren’t worth the cons
    If you want to have a second
    Or is it a third now?
    Exodus of users
    Then go ahead and wipe the server clean
    But like I said earlier
    I value the quality and time put into posts over the years
    And by posts over the years
    I mean
    My four posts
     
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  2. dodgers

    dodgers DSP Legend

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    What the fuck^^
     
    dodgers, Aug 1, 2018
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  3. VRP

    VRP DSP Legend

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    Well that’s frightening
     
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  4. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    Ghost of DSPs past.
     
    rube, Aug 1, 2018
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  5. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    if we have you to "enlighten" us
    why do we need to hold onto the excess baggage
     
    irish, Aug 1, 2018
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  6. BlueMouse

    BlueMouse 2020 World Champions

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    POTY nominee
     
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  7. TAFNAC

    TAFNAC Cossack Staff Member Administrator

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    A huanting in DSP!

    Spooky!
     
    TAFNAC, Aug 1, 2018
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  8. TAFNAC

    TAFNAC Cossack Staff Member Administrator

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    Some people like the old posts.
    Theres a lot of really funny shit in the old posts.
    It's also interesting to see how personas/personalities evolve.

    Plus if you blow it all away, everyone has to re-register (some won't bother). And everyone will have to reconfigure their profile settings and preferences. It's a PITA and it will drive soeme users away.

    There's also a ton of backend admin work to set the user groups to work reasonably. XF has a bunch of really great features, but the user/group management isn't one of them. It's a balance between allowing people to join the site and contribute right away, and keeping spammers/bots from flooding the site, for example. I'd hate to have to redo all that work.

    It's litterally costs nothing to keep the old history, while removing it comes with a bunch of hassle.
     
    TAFNAC, Aug 1, 2018
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  9. LAdiablo

    LAdiablo descarado

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    sounds like Craig has enough real life work to tend to
    fair enough
     
    LAdiablo, Aug 1, 2018
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  10. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    There are ways.
    I actually don't mind losing old members who are not active.
    Active members won't have issue reregistering. And there are ways to go around that as well.
    Especially if we allow members to just log in with their google/facebook accounts.
    The usergroups system has been vastly simplified.
    And there are also good solutions for those old problems we used to have.
    Make most active members into mods. Have open enrollment that allows you to post right away without anyone approving your account.
    Except that your posts are moderated until you have proven you are not a bot.
    Only seen by moderators which are all the active old timers who will be able to moderate the new guy and delete spam if its spam.
     
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    blazer5 DSP Legend

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    Sold
     
    blazer5, Aug 1, 2018
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  12. MZA

    MZA MODERATOR Staff Member

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    Obviously just wipe out half the posts.
     
    MZA, Aug 2, 2018
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  13. CapnTreee

    CapnTreee Guest

    Yeah @Sauce makes good points but it's scary thinking about his stalking us AND PAYING ATTENTION to this DSP drivel without ever posting .. for years. (stop watching me man, stop it)

    My biggest single takeaway is that the Mods and old timers at DSP have been whining and bkitching for years about how to gather more users and the single event that pushes people away fastest and most completely.... rebooting the server.
    The second being that we all act like right wing Fox nazi's when new people post ordinary points of view.
    The third, of course, being that @irish is an incorrigibly perverted lech. (Of course one could argue that last one is actually somewhat endearing)

    So do we want more users or fewer users?
     
    CapnTreee, Aug 6, 2018
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  14. TAFNAC

    TAFNAC Cossack Staff Member Administrator

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    If any of us were normies, we'd probably still be at PSD.
     
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    TAFNAC Cossack Staff Member Administrator

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    And I'd take right wing fox nazis over these nazis...

    [​IMG]
     
    TAFNAC, Aug 6, 2018
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  16. CapnTreee

    CapnTreee Guest

    Too funny.

    I'm afraid to inquire as to the nature of those fools







    Edit: LOL Thank you Google image search.. so these are the "antifa" stormtroopers that have the poor little Faux KKK weasels up in arms??

    Precious
     
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  17. CapnTreee

    CapnTreee Guest

    Then you're damned grateful that we don't live in a binary world ehh*?

    Seriously, thinking like it's always "either/or" is the greater loss grasshopper.

    Hey @rube pitch in a "tri-lateral thinking" assist here will you?




    (*That felt too punny to say to a fellow techie)
     
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  18. Man Ray

    Man Ray Well-Known Member

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    I don't come here as often as most, but I feel you should do whatever to make the site the most effective.
     
    Man Ray, Aug 30, 2018
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  19. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    I agree.
    Nice to see you back around Ray.

    The idea is to recreate the site with an even more simplified style than this.
    Something that is more than just mobile friendly but geared towards mobile.
    As well as with a more focus on the Dodgers as the main page and not the biggest sub page on the main page as it is now.
    Part of the efficiency factor is trimming the fat of old posts and threads that are not relevant anymore.
    The past is the past and while we all have funny or interesting posts from the past I feel we can make more interesting and funny posts in the future.
    I don't think it is a great idea to cling to the past in general and I find websites that have a set shelf life for content create more of it that is relevant.
    I would be for an auto pruning feature that would close all threads from the previous season and put them in 'read only' or 'low-fi' mode.

    While some members continue to think this site is about bringing in more people or making money it is not. It is about the members that are active. Not about past members or future members. What comes comes and it is not something anyone should worry about.
    Yet I expect that these changes will bring about more usage by those here and increase the quality of our content which is the only true way I wish to attract both old and new members.
     
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    rube, Aug 30, 2018
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