If the Dodgers were to become sellers in July...

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  1. THINKBLUE

    THINKBLUE DSP Gigolo

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    What would you do as GM?

    I'm not writing off the Dodgers this season. I'm just curious what you guys would do as GM if...for whatever reason... everything went wrong and there was the intriguing idea of being sellers.

    This just out of curiosity and intrigue.

    I don't think there is much to sell though because we don't have a lot of in-prime starting players who would be sought after.

    Might be impossible to be sellers haha.
     
  2. LASports96

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    delete this
     
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    THINKBLUE DSP Gigolo

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    Why? It's a fun hypothetical in my opinion. Forget that the Dodgers lost 5 in a row. Don't take it as a reaction to a losing streak. This can be posted amidst a winning streak for all I care.

    I really want to hear what people would do with this team in a seller position.

    Hypothetical

    I guess a better way to put it would be...if we were a buyer/seller hybrid. What direction would you guys take the team?
     
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    What do we have to sell? I guess what I mean is that we did not sign Grienke, Price, Cueto, any big time hitter. We have marched out offensively the same team plus Puig, Seager and Joc.

    All we have is middle talent players and prospects.

    So WHAT can we sell? Prospects for big time players? That's pretty much it right? Do you sell Kershaw? And get what?

    The FO has painted us into a corner....where the only solution to to pray on blended knee that our prospects pan out in enough time to still take advantage of whatever years we have left with Kershaw and Adrian.

    We are basically stuck.
     
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    THINKBLUE DSP Gigolo

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    Yep, it's a weird spot.

    Since we have the top farm system and a fringe playoff team right now...we're in a weird window where we basically can't do anything.
     
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    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

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    Puig is probably the best sell as far as area you can afford, intrigue to other teams, contract, and what not.

    Kershaw can't be sold cause of his contract clause. Kenley could be dangled and if someone bites with an insane offer then thats interesting, but Kenley is more valuable to the Dodgers cause of the QO. Every other reliever I would see them trading and it's fine.

    Turner, Howie, and Utley would be people to trade and you give up cash.

    I've given up realistic hope that Ethier/CC can be traded. I can't see Adrian being moved for something worthwhile.

    Joc/Seager/Grandal are too valuable down the line cause of the lack of CF/SS/C depth to move.

    I would probably keep all the starting pitchers, cause don't think they have anyone that would get something in return that's worthwhile.

    So: It would come down to, dangle Puig, Turner, Howie, Utley, and the entire bullpen. And you take up pretty much any offer for Utley/Howie, Turner and Kenley you look at your long term plans and see if what you get in return is worth it. The rest of the bullpen, you see if someone likes an arm enough to give some value for any one there.
     
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    fair enough

    as for the exercise, idk they can't really tear it down at this point so idk (sans trading Kershaw and no) I guess Puig has value but you know I like Puig alot so whatever
     
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    THINKBLUE DSP Gigolo

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    My follow-up question would be...how far would these moves set the Dodgers back in terms of competing for a world series?
    And would it be worth it?

    Probably not now that I think of it. I guess it depends on the FA market, among other things.

    I was just thinking about how the Red Sox won that 2013 World series in between two terrible seasons. Shipping off some guys, etc. Not the same situation as the Dodgers, and I don't aspire to be where the Red Sox are. But just saying that's what got me thinking.

    How teams see windows, break it all down, and quickly bring it back up.

    Dodgers are in such a weird spot lol
     
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    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

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    The next free agent market is awful so, unless the moves brought players who could help immediately it's not really doing much. Really only way I see selling helping is: spinning off assets for an elite player, and/or trading off an offensive player for arms that end up setting up an elite bullpen, meanwhile not hurting the bullpen much (example: Trading Utley/Howie for an arm that ends up being great) but again, the best bet moving forward is simply hoping these guys develop and take steps forward, and that some of these fucking minor league arms develop into elite bullpen arms. Hard to be patient for that cause it might never happen and they have to be proactive
     
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    Nerds are not as smart as they think they are. MISPLACED small market band aid mentality. Even McCourt knew it and shit canned the king of computers. Fuck these guys they'll just strip it down to save GuGGs $$$$$$$. We as fans mean dick.
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    i think it's too late even if the nerds were going to go that route
    there's not really a lot out there and they're not going to give up our top prospects
    i understand the latter to a certain degree
    but i'm not as high as others here as holding onto every one of them
    for every seager there are a dozen lambo's, laroche's and lindblom's
    imo, you can't horde them all and you can't trade them all
    there needs to be a time where you take a risk
    of course that's easier said than done
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    puig would be the guy
    that said, i'd prefer to keep him for the reasons tb stated
    but we need to surround him with at least one marquee player and/or a couple of solid/productive types
    we essentially have the latter if everyone's healthy and producing with adrian/turner/corey/grandal/ethier/utley
    but when most/all are struggling or injured it makes it tough on everybody, hence the current slide
    if we're going to aquire anybody that would help the team it will cost us
    not only someone like puig, but prospects as well
    to add to tb's initial question, who (prospect wise) would you be willing to part with and for whom
    urias is obviously someone we want to hold onto
    but would you consider including him in a deal if the return were a stanton/fernandez type player in return?
    idk, just frustrated and ranting...
     
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    With the second wildcard, the bar for being a seller is lower than ever before. We are a big market team, so the bar is even lower for us. Basically, unless our team is completely phillied then we are never going to be sellers.

    Hypothetically:

    Utley is the one guy that jumps out as a sell piece.

    Puig... maybe. Puig could actually be a trade candidate if we are buyers or sellers. It just depends on how the FO views him going forward.

    Teams become so desperate for arms at the deadline that we could potentially sell any healthy starting pitcher to clear out some salary: Kazmir, Wood (maybe?), Anderson*, Ryu*

    * if healthy

    After that our players are either too crappy or too young. AGon is still under contract, and with no obvious minor league replacement I don't think he's a piece you move either.
     
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    Ryu can't be traded he has the same clause as Kershaw.

    They'd trade Utley and maybe Turner. It wouldn't set them back more than a few months but they're also not gonna get much back for those guys.
     
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    Na

    Naa

    Nahh

    NOT gonna happen.

    Pointless thread, delete it.
     
  16. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    if we become sellers
    it's because we're in the cellar
    maybe acquiring justin sellers
    toy boat
    toy boat
    toy boat
     
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    THINKBLUE DSP Gigolo

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    So just because you don't like it, delete it? Maybe I like hypothetical scenarios. So my thoughts are pointless. I'll keep that in mind.
     
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    Not all your thoughts are pointless.


    Just this one.
     
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    THINKBLUE DSP Gigolo

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    All good, man. My humble mistake and apologies.
     
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