LAKERS LAKERS Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by rube, Dec 16, 2015.

  1. spanky006

    spanky006 DSP Legend

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    Well, I think the lakers still need to free up more cap room as outlined by this article:
    https://hoopshabit.com/2017/06/30/los-angeles-lakers-much-cap-space-summer/

    I am sure Clarkson can be traded for something before the season starts in Oct, but absolutely by the trade deadline in Feb of 2018. Rose is being offered part of Clevelands MLE at $2.5MM I think. Someone check me but I believe the Lakers have the full MLE this year that they can offer Rose. So if MGT can offer him more money and more playing time that might just get the deal done.
     
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    My guess is it would be on a one year deal and a major part of the signing is mentorship......which could still be done from the DL.
     
  3. Fall Winslow

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    He's probably good for 65 games a year at this point
    Has had to adjust his playing style and pace
     
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    I think that would be a stretch.
     
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    He's done exactly that the last 2 seasons
     
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    Rose also in talks with the Bulls
     
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    I don't understand what the Bulls are trying to accomplish. They sign Butler and Wade to big contracts, trade away Butler for what seems like peanuts, will still have to pay Wade big dollars in the twilight of his career and are now talking to Rose?

    I don't quite understand.
     
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    65 is a bit exact, even though Rose has played 64 and 66 games the last couple seasons
    So lets say 60-70 range
    Zo's probably gonna play around 26-28 minutes a night..people are going to want him to play more, but he's 19yrs old, so they need to bring him along cautiously and get him used to long seasons
    KCP is probably looking at 30-35 minutes a night
    So if Rose joins it means Clarkson's gonna take the PT hit or be traded
    But they've been shopping Clarkson since the off-season began, so wouldn't shock me if they traded Clarkson rather than hurt the little value he has by playing him a ton less

    One of the scenarios they could be thinking of..attaching Clarkson to Zubac and shopping those two as a package
    If they could get an expiring contract + a 2018 1st round pick in return, maybe they pull the trigger on that
    Zubac may not be cut out to keep up with Zo's pace
    Zubac can get out and run on occasion, but LAL wants to " run, run, run " now and he really struggles to get up and down, back and forth, time and time again..it's not a strength for him and LAL may be better served running with Nance as the 2nd unit's center making room for Kuzma
    But anyway, they could then move forward after dealing Clarkson/Zubac, and at the deadline they could maybe attach the draft pick they got in the trade to Deng to try and get him moved
     
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    Dude Zubac is not going any where. MGT learned their lesson when they traded away Marc Gasol. I suppose there are two ways MGT could go. Add Rose make the team more attractive to FA next year or run with Clarkson this year and hope he has a great first half so they can attach him to Deng in a trade to a contender at the deadline.
     
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    What are you talking about?
    Kupchak and Buss are gone, have been fired.
     
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    ??? So new MGT can't learn from the mistakes of old MGT?
     
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    You said " management learned their lesson when they traded Marc Gasol " as if Kupchak and Buss were still in the FO.
    And not only that, but Marc Gasol was traded for Pau Gasol.
    What did Kupchak learn there?
    What are Magic and Pelinka learning from that move?
    How to be a champion?
    Do that gotdamn trade 100 times out of 100.

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    Lakers don't have the MLE. They get a 4.3 million or so room exception that they can sign Rose into. Cavs can only offer vet minimum at 2.1 mil
     
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    Jimmbo and Cupcake gave up on Marc before they really knew what they had. Plus because Bynum was Jimbo's pick, there was no way they were going to give up on him even though he had a history of injury. Had they included Bynum in the trade for Gasol then we could have had both Gasol brothers and won more than the two they got.
     
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    Smh They didn't give up on Marc Gasol, they went after the better brother, the guy who was a proven all-star caliber commodity, who could help them immediately.
    Marc was 18 or 19 and fat as fuck, far away from a sure thing, used as trade chip and proved to be valuable enough to get the trade to go through.
    Both teams won that trade.
    Also, Bynum and Odom were headed to Minnesota for Garnett until Garnett backed out of his stronghold over Minny management and agreed to go to Boston instead.
    Garnett lives in Malibu, preferred to play with Kobe before Boston traded for Ray Allen and earned his favor.
    Bynum was outta here.
    God bless Marc Gasol.
    He's good.
    But Pau Gasol was the better player at his peak, much better because he was basically the mobile, more athletic version of Marc Gasol
     
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    That trade was orchestrated by Jerry. Jim was against it because he was the one that persuaded everyone to draft Bynum despite his injury history. You can call Marc fat all you want, he was still producing before he got to the NBA. Im not saying that Marc is better than Pau. I am saying that if MGT had paid attention to the #'s and not their feeling, they would have sent injury prone Bynum packin for Pau and ran with Marc. So, all that to say, they are not going to give up on Zubac this early.
     
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    There is no they.
    All of those characters are literally no longer in the story, dude.
    Dr. Buss is dead, Mitch and Jim fired.
    And Jim ended up trading Bynum for Dwight anyway.
    Marc was fat
    And Bynum was hurt with a torn ACL at the time of Pau trade.
    When Bynum came back, LAL was great
    I have never seen anybody complain about the Pau trade that was actually headline by Kwame Brown back then, congratulations, you've done it again
     
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    Everyone acknowledges that old MGT is gone. But new MGT can learn from the mistakes of the old MGT. Marc may have been fat but he produced on Barcelona and he produced from GO in Memphis, so your assertion that he was far from ready is just not true. Yes Bynum was traded for Dwight, but that was 4 years later.....when Jimbo had no choice but to acknowledge that he was wrong. Not complaining about getting Pau, just saying that Marc/Pau is much better than Bynum/Pau.
     
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    More like denying the fact that Bynum's presence in the paint defensively got the job done
    I'm done with this
     
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