Matt Kemp is the TRUE MVP

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  1. BlueMouse

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    Wow, I just looked it up, and it looks like Braun will lose about $2 million this season because his big paychecks don't kick in for a while. So point taken.

    I was just saying there is a built in salary punishment with the suspensions, even if it is minor (relatively). Owners could always get together and insist on steroid clauses in contracts - like the ability to void a contract on a first offense. But I might argue they don't because discouraging well-masked steroid attempts wouldn't be in their best interest.
     
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    Daniel Burch TheGreedyPinstripes

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    Not to mention , imo, that they are afraid of Donald Fehr and the strongest union in the world, the MLBPA. The players gave in to a lot but they will agree to non guaranteed money and contracts before they agreed to that.
     
  3. BlueMouse

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    I think Braun should have his MVP taken away because he tested positive for bad defense.
     
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    True, it wouldn't come without a fight.
     
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    From ESPN and the same article.

    http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_...ers-tests-positive-performance-enhancing-drug

    Also within the same article.

     
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    Ryan Braun Positive PED Test Not Supported By Second Sample, According To Report

    Dec109:10p
    by Jeff Sullivan

    READ MORE: Ryan Braun (LF - MIL)
    Ryan Braun has tested positive for a performance-enhancing drug, which showed up in the form of synthetic testosterone in a urine sample. However, Braun is said to have been shocked by the results, and the ESPN report contains the following nugget of interest:
    A source close to Braun said that when he was told about the positive test, he immediately requested to be tested again. That second test, the source said, was not positive. Those close to Braun believe that the difference between the two tests will show that the first test was invalid.
    Well that's fascinating. One sample tested positive. A subsequent sample did not test positive. Something must have been wrong with the test on the first sample, right? Exoneration, ho!
    Not quite. Maybe, but we don't know how much time passed between tests. They do, but we don't, and that's a critical piece of information. Additionally, the first sample seems to have been tested multiple times.
    Braun seems to believe very strongly that he is innocent. Our responsibility, as fans, is to hear him out and give him a chance before we rush to conclusions. One does have to wonder, though. This is a curious day.

    http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/12/10/2627123/ryan-braun-positive-ped-test
     
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    this is about to get ugly..
     
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    Want to clean up BB? take the sample, send it to 2 different labs...if detected in both, then that's it. One time -you're out of baseball. That'll clean it right the fuck up.
    And how soon was the surprised Braun's "immediate 2nd test" after the first is of utmost importance.
    They'll never take it away if it stands, anyway, because the people in charge are fags....that's why. Did they change the result of that guy Galarraga's perfect game when the ump clearly blew that call in the ninth? And admitted he got it wrong? No...they let the ump Joyce cry about it, and that scrub got screwed out of something he'll never even hope to sniff again, ever.
    They've got a big problem on their hands with this one...because if he does get exonnerated, then every guy who is accused of PEDs will want the same treatment; "the tests are not infallible. They made a mistake, like with Braun".
    Just like fucking OJ-DNA everywhere, blood all over his car, and he's innocent.
    But Pete Rose can't get in the Hall...
     
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    the world has gone to shit BZ
     
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    Es muy verdad. It truly has. I know now why that baby is smoking.
    My dog started in with a Harlequin Great Dane at a pet adoption the other day...huge- looked more like a black and white Indian pony than a dog. Went right for him.
    Two minutes later, two crazy little Parson Russell Terrier puppies got loose and came near him, and he almost broke my arm trying to get away from them in fear!? WTF?
    "All I know is that I know nothing"......Socrates
     
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    there is actually more to that picture than meets the eye since you have an apparent fascination with it. i have a b/w picture of me at like two with a cig in my mouth and a lighter in my hand sitting on a little port a potty. it supposedly happened on a camping trip and my dad and "uncle" verg staged it. my family swears it was an omen of things to come.
     
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    if he was a 'thug' he would get no benefit of the doubt
    but since he isnt a 'thug' he will get every pass possible
     
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    yes, 100% true

    we as men have been turned into women
    we talk like women, we act like women, we live like women
    we just pretend we are men
    speaking of HGH look at our hormone levels in statistics
    every year our men have less and less testosterone in our system
    and more and more estrogen
    we are being turned into women little by little by society

    that spells doom for humanity
    there is a reason why so many people need viagra now
    more and more men can no longer get it up
    pretty soon more and more men will be shooting blanks
    if that happens... no more babies
    no more babies... no more humans
     
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    when i see your avatar i think van halen
     
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    What are you talking about? The dude is soo thug.
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    the world is not going to shit
    people are starting to finally see through the hypocrisy
    sports are a microcosm to whats happening all over the place

    the first step is recognizing that all this stuff that we hold dear and true is bullshit
    people used to just accept it and move on
    even those who know its bullshit
    we know its bullshit but since everyone just accepts it as the status quo you do as well
    even when you know its bullshit
    thats spirit killing
    over time that destroys you as a man

    every time we see lies, we know they are lies, we swallow the lies, we swallow our pride, and we then ask for more lies... thats when we lose a little bit of what makes us men

    then when 2 assholes beat up another asshole to near death in front of hundreds of other assholes at a dodgers game and none of those assholes lifts a finger to help and we wonder why?
    thats why... because none of those assholes are men anymore

    we are lied to as if we were little children
    we are spoon fed everything in our lives
    we are raised like spoiled bratty children not by mistake but as public policy
    so who is surprised when all of our adults run around talking and acting like stupid teenagers?
     
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    i disagree. i highly value content of character and see very little of it around. i grew up being told my word was all i had and if i gave it i better be able to support it and follow through no excuses.
    we shook hands and made deals. looked people in the eye. people actually knew what shame felt like. there is no shame anymore. anything goes. and you can go ahead and say these values are outdated but they were a hell of a lot better than this whole deny it until it becomes truth bullshit.
    we may have been lied to but people treated each other a lot better.
     
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    Translation: Because he's a *good white boy* he will come out of this okay. If he were a Spanish speaker or Black, he'd be fucked.
     
  20. rube

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    he is even more than a good white boy
    he is untouchable
     

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