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  1. ColoradoKidWitGame

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    Here is an article from True Blue LA about the Dodgers prospects on the Baseball Prospectus Top 101. The knock on Urias has been his size (5'11), but I believe that I have posted it here, along with other sites, that according to the play by play guy for the Loons he is at least 6'1. Thanks to Prof Parks for finally being a scout to acknowledge this, proving that most of these guys are getting their info on Urias secondhand. Guy sounds like he is going to be a stud. Another surprise on the list is how much he loves Pederson's power. That could be interesting to watch this season as he moves up the ranks. Would love to see that develop within the organization and see it in CF everyday.


    Last week, Jason Parks delivered his top ten Dodger prospects list on Baseball Prospectus. On Monday, Baseball Prospectus released its top 101 prospect list, including four Dodger prospects.
    True Blue LA and Parks had a conversation about Dodger prospects and in this first part of that chat, we will go straight to the top as he talks about No. 35 Julio Urias, No. 44Corey Seager, No. 50 Joc Pederson, and No. 84 Zach Lee, the four Dodger prospects that are in the top 101 prospects.
    The 2014 Baseball Prospectus book is now being shipped by Amazon (it won't be in book stores until mid-February). Parks will be at the Baseball Prospectus event at Dodger Stadium in April 26, too.
    Last week Jason tweeted about the left-handed pitcher Urias, his top Dodger prospect:

    Before last season, Parks asked the Dodgers about Urias and they said, "'Just wait, somethings coming.' [Urias is] 91-93, with 3s, 4s and 5s in every start, touching 95 in every start."
    "He was throwing curveballs for strikes, if you can go throw the curveball for strikes at the lower levels (aka short-season or A league), you will get a lot of swinging strikes because they are already geared up to hit a fastball because that is all they can hit for the most part," Parks said.
    Parks added that Urias is "a little bit bigger than 5'11", probably closer to 6'1", good delivery," and Parks remarked that Urias can do a lot with his fastball: "Urias can cut it, sink it, bore it in."
    "There is not a ton of projection here, meaning that [Urias] probably not going to sprout to 6'4" and become this mid-90s power pitcher guy. He is what it is, he's just going to refine some more," Parks said. "I would not be surprised if he finds his way to Double A this year and wouldn't be surprised if [Urias] pitches in the big leagues in 2015, which is remarkable."
    The number two Dodger prospect is the infielder Seager, No. 44 overall. Parks thinks he could be play in Double A now.
    "He's a big guy, he's still finding his body, growing into that adult frame," Parks said.
    Parks agrees with other scouts about Seager's ultimate position
    "He's not a shortstop long term although he has good glove, he has pretty good range, strong enough arm for third," Parks said. "I would move him sooner rather than later, settle in at third, learn the angles."
    As to Seager's hitting, Parks noted that "there were some scouts who soured him as he faced better pitching in the Cal league and the Arizona Fall league, his approach at the plate broke down a little bit, his balance at the plate became more of an issue than it had in the past."
    Parks said don't worry if you don't see home runs right away.
    "Power will come but not immediately, he's a hit first guy, he will learn how to hit for power later on." [Seager] is a hit tool guy, he will hit for average," Parks said. "I like him as a player, I think he is a first-division third baseman at the end of the day."
    Pederson was number three for the Dodgers and number 50 of the BP 101. Parks was succinct in his praise for the outfielder, "[Pederson] is a five-tool guy." And Parks said of those tools, the one that he is strong at might surprise you: "[Pederson] has lot more power than people realize, his raw power is really, really, really impressive."
    Not surprising, Parks has heard this from other team's personnel "lot of teams are interested in him because they know the situation in the Dodger outfield is crowded, they think he is guy that maybe they can snatch." Finally, as to where Pederson will end up as a player, Parks said "I think he is first division guy if he can stick in center, if he plays a corner it will be more of regular player. Big power."
    The right-handed pitcher Lee was the fourth Dodger prospect in the BP 101. Parks tweeted out Zach last week too:

    "[Lee] became a pitcher, not just a strike thrower," Parks said. "[Lee] became a pitchability guy, fastball 90-92, he knows how to move it."
    Adding to his fastball, Parks talked about Lee's other pitches.
    "[Lee has] a couple of breaking ball looks, [Lee's] change up has taken few steps forward," Parks said "[Lee is] not going to miss a lot of bats at the Major League level, a more of a pitch to contact guy."
    As Parks said in his tweet, Lee might be overlooked in the Dodger system but that is a mistake.
    "I think he's going to be a number 4 starter for a very long time and that's a valuable thing under team control now," Parks said. "I think its a big developmental win for them and an investment that will pay off."
    Part two of our chat with Jason Parks will look at the next four prospects on the list, 4 pitchers who moved from college campuses to the Dodger organization.
     
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    Thanks, Kid. Please post part 2 if/when you get it.
     
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    Chris, post the BP dodgers top 10 prospects article
    Dont be a company man and tell us to purchase it :p
     
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    The Top Ten

    LHP Julio Urias
    SS Corey Seager
    CF Joc Pederson
    RHP Zach Lee
    RHP Chris Anderson
    LHP Chris Reed
    RHP Ross Stripling
    LHP Tom Windle
    LHP Onelki Garcia
    RHP Victor Arano
    1. Julio Urias
    Position: LHP
    DOB: 08/12/1996
    Height/Weight: 5’11” 160 lbs
    Bats/Throws: L/L
    Drafted/Acquired: International free agent, 2012, Mexico
    Previous Ranking: On The Rise
    2013 Stats: 2.48 ERA (54.1 IP, 44 H, 67 K, 16 BB) in Low-A Great Lakes
    The Tools: 7 potential FB; 6+ potential CH; 6 potential CB

    What Happened in 2013: As a 16-year-old, Urias fluttered the hearts of many a prospectphile, jumping straight to the Midwest League and showing three above-average pitches, including a fastball that touched plus velocity in each start.

    Strengths: Advanced pitchability; taller than listed height (more like 6’1’’); easy and repeatable delivery; fastball works 91-93; touches 95 frequently; multiple fastball looks and actions; turns over highly projectable changeup with good arm speed deception and fading action; projects as easy plus offering (and possibly higher); spins average curveball that already flashes plus potential, with a tight rotation and depth; above-average command projection; makeup for accelerated developmental schedule.

    Weaknesses: Body could prove to be high maintenance; will need to maintain weight and athleticism as he matures; several sources question arsenal projection (more polish and present than projection); changeup can get too firm and lose action; limited exposure or experience with longer looks (starts).

    Overall Future Potential: High 6; no. 2 starter

    Realistic Role: 6; no. 3 starter

    Risk Factor/Injury History: High risk; mature stuff but 17 years old.

    Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: The fantasy profile here is just something we are really not used to seeing from an ETA standpoint, even if the stuff is more comfortable for evaluation. This could be an arm who impacts all four categories strongly—especially with that changeup as a big strikeout weapon against right-handed hitters. But the innings limits he’s likely to be facing at the beginning of his career (if he does reach the majors in the next two seasons) will hurt his value slightly. Invest heavily, but wisely.

    The Year Ahead: Urias is a very advanced prospect who could see the Double-A level at some point in the 2014 season, and perhaps reach the majors before his 19th birthday in 2015. The Mexican southpaw pitches well off his fastball, showing multiple looks, including a four-seamer he can push into the mid-90s when he needs it, and backing up the fastball with two secondary offerings that can already play as average and flash plus potential. I haven’t seen a pitcher this advanced at this age since I started scouting, and if Urias can add strength and maintain his body without losing his delivery and command profile, his stuff will allow him to find results regardless of the level, major leagues included.

    Major league ETA: 2015

    2. Corey Seager
    Position: SS
    DOB: 04/27/1994
    Height/Weight: 6’4” 215 lbs
    Bats/Throws: L/R
    Drafted/Acquired: 1st round, 2012 draft, Northwest Cabarrus HS (Concord, NC)
    Previous Ranking: #3 (Org)
    2013 Stats: .309/.389/.529 at Low-A Great Lakes (74 games), .160/.246/.320 at High-A Rancho Cucamonga (27 games)
    The Tools: 6 potential hit; 6 potential power; 6+ arm; 5+ glove; 5 run

    What Happened in 2013: As a 19-year-old, Seager crushed in his full-season debut in Low-A before struggling against better pitching in the California League and the Arizona Fall League.

    Strengths: Excellent size/present strength; sweet swing from the left side; balanced with plus bat speed; projects for both power and average; tracks the ball well; puts himself in good hitting conditions; arm is plus; hands work well in the field; quality actions; runs well for his size; baseball skills and instincts.

    Weaknesses: Can lengthen swing for power and open holes (inside); can get fastball happy and roll over off-speed early in counts; size limits projection at shortstop; lower-half movement can get stiff; good but not great range; straight-line speed will end up below average.

    Overall Future Potential: 6; first-division player

    Realistic Role: 5; Major-league regular

    Risk Factor/Injury History: Moderate risk; yet to play at Double-A level; struggled against more advanced pitching.

    Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: Seager would be an even more interesting fantasy prospect if he had a better chance of sticking at shortstop. But even at third base, a .285 hitter with 20 homers is plenty valuable. On top of that, he’s shown a good approach at the plate and the ability to take a walk, which could give him a slight boost in OBP leagues. The speed isn’t a zero, but don’t expect more than 5-10 steals annually.

    The Year Ahead: Seager is a safe bet to end up at third base, which puts more pressure on his bat to carry the burden of value. With a smooth, fluid swing that produces bat speed and loft, the bat has a chance to hit for average and power, which could make him a first-division talent at the hot corner. The 19-year-old did struggle against more advanced pitching, pulling off balls and losing his approach at times, but the offensive projections remain above average, and he should return to High-A and show more with the stick than he did in his 100 at-bat sample.

    Major league ETA: 2016

    3. Joc Pederson
    Position: CF
    DOB: 04/21/1992
    Height/Weight: 6’1” 185 lbs
    Bats/Throws: L/L
    Drafted/Acquired: 11th round, 2010 draft, Palo Alto HS (Palo Alto, CA)
    Previous Ranking: #5 (Org)
    2013 Stats: .278/.381/.497 at Double-A Chattanooga (123 games)
    The Tools: 5+ potential hit; 6 potential power; 5+ arm; 5+ run; 5+ potential glove

    What Happened in 2013: In his steady climb up the minor league ranks, Pederson more than held his own 21-year-old in Double-A, showing all five tools and becoming a highly coveted target around the league.

    Strengths: Plus all-around athlete; natural hitability; good balance; great hands; creates plus bat speed; hit tool could play above average; tracks the ball well and forces a pitcher to beat him; raw power could grade as plus-plus; game power has a chance to play above average; strong arm in the field; above-average run/range; glove could play above average in center.

    Weaknesses: Overall profile is more solid-average than special; lacks high-end tools; sum of his parts player; good bat but exposed by arm-side pitching; big swing-and-miss; power likely to play under projection; defense in center is good but shows some tweener qualities and some see a better fit for left field.

    Overall Future Potential: 6; first-division player

    Realistic Role: Low 5; second division player/platoon starter

    Risk Factor/Injury History: Moderate risk; 123 games of Double-A experience.

    Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: With a classic five-category outfield profile, Peterson is someone to get excited about in both the short term and long term, despite not projecting to a superstar. There’s real 20-20 potential here, and with an average that should hover around .270 and more upside in the power.

    The Year Ahead: Pederson is a balls-out type of player with solid-average to above-average tools that he can bring into game action. While he might not be a premium up-the-middle talent, the former 11th rounder can make plays on all sides of the ball, showing a multi-dimensional offensive attack (hit, power, run), and strong fundamentals in the field. Sources are mixed about his long-term projection—be it as a first-division type or more of a league-average type in a corner—but several outside the org sources suggested he was a player they highly recommended for acquisition should the opportunity present itself, as Pederson will be a no doubt big-league contributor for a very long time.
     
  5. chris

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    4. Zach Lee
    Position: RHP
    DOB: 09/13/1991
    Height/Weight: 6’3” 190 lbs
    Bats/Throws: R/R
    Drafted/Acquired: 1st round, 2010 draft, McKinney HS (McKinney, TX)
    Previous Ranking: #2 (Org), #87 (Top 101)
    2013 Stats: 3.22 ERA (142.2 IP, 132 H, 131 K, 35 BB) at Double-A Chattanooga
    The Tools: 5+ FB; 5+ CH; 5 SL

    What Happened in 2013: In a return to the Southern League, Lee built on his already strong professional resume, missing close to a bat an inning while limiting damage and holding Double-A hitters to a .247 average.

    Strengths: Strong, athletic frame; repeatable delivery; arm works well/good release; fastball is solid-average offering; pitches well off it; velocity in the 90-93 range; can spike higher; can manipulate movement and shows good feel for location; slider can miss bats in the low-mid-80s; can be thrown for strikes with some intensity to the break; changeup is solid-average and thrown well in sequence; good arm speed deception and some sinking action; can drop a curveball for strikes; good overall command profile.

    Weaknesses: Lacks plus stuff; fastball can play pedestrian; can move it around but struggles to live loose in the zone; slider isn’t wipeout offering that forces bats out of the zone; changeup is more weak contact than whiff; curveball can get soft and easy to track; more of a steal-a-strike pitch at higher levels.

    Overall Future Potential: High 5; no. 3 starter

    Realistic Role: 5; no. 4 starter

    Risk Factor/Injury History: Low risk; 38 starts at Double-A level

    Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: The fantasy profile for Lee is more solid starter than impact one, as his stuff does not lend itself to missing a ton of bats at the major-league level. With that said, a slightly above-average pitcher in Dodger Stadium can be a no. 3 fantasy starter even without an offering that looks like a separator

    The Year Ahead: Lee is going to be a good major-league starter, but his current stuff and limited arsenal projection points more to a solid no. 4 type than the frontline arm many envisioned coming out of high school. The 22-year-old Texan is more command/control than power, but he can still dial up the fastball to the mid-90s on occasion, and the slider has been known to show some bat-missing intensity. But for the most part, Lee works his solid-average fastball in the 90-92 range, hitting his spots and setting up his deep secondary arsenal, which is geared more toward weak, off-balanced contact than swings and miss, at least as it is projected against more advanced hitters. Lee should move up to Triple-A in 2014, and could get a look at the major-league level in some capacity in 2014, either as a potential long man out of the bullpen (to break in), a back-end starter in case of injury or opportunity, or with another organization in the event of a trade.

    Major league ETA: 2014

    5. Chris Anderson
    Position: RHP
    DOB: 07/29/1992
    Height/Weight: 6’4” 215 lbs
    Bats/Throws: R/R
    Drafted/Acquired: 1st round, 2013 draft, Jacksonville University (Jacksonville, FL)
    Previous Ranking: NA
    2013 Stats: 1.96 ERA (46 IP, 32 H, 50 K, 24 BB) at Low-A Great Lakes
    The Tools: 6 FB; 6 potential SL; 5 potential CH

    What Happened in 2013: Selected 18th overall in the 2013 draft, Anderson moved straight to the full-season level and made 12 starts, missing 50 bats in only 46 innings of work.

    Strengths: Excellent size/strength; good arm strength and speed; fastball is plus offering; working low-90s with good angle; can amp up velocity and work up in the zone; slider is above average and should get to consistent plus; mid-80s velocity and sharp two-plane break; hard pitch for right-handers to handle; changeup has some projection; works fringe-average at present; some late action; strike-throwing ability; aggressive approach.

    Weaknesses: Fringe-command at present; tendency to overthrow and lose his ability to locate; sources not as high on his curveball; can get loose and slurvy; changeup can get too firm; more deliberate than other offerings.

    Overall Future Potential: High 5; no. 3 starter

    Realistic Role: 5; no. 4 starter

    Risk Factor/Injury History: Moderate risk; limited professional experience.

    Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: Oft-overlooked in dynasty drafts due to the publicity of the arms ahead of him, Anderson carries the second most upside of any starter on this list. Of course, that’s not the world’s greatest compliment, as even if the change becomes an average pitch, his fantasy outlook is more no. 4 starter in shallower leagues with a 3.50 ERA and 170 strikeouts over a full season.

    The Year Ahead: Anderson has the size, strength, and delivery to log a lot of innings in a rotation, a potential mid-rotation workhorse. The 21-year-old has a solid four-pitch mix, with the fastball being his breadwinner and his slider as his complementary bat misser. When/if the command improves, he can set the table with his fastball and use his secondary depth to make outs, which should allow the big right-hander to find sustainable success in a rotation. Because of the mature stuff, Anderson could move through the minors quickly, with a likely start in High-A and a chance to finish the season in the Southern League, positioning himself for a major-league call-up at some point in 2015.

    Major league ETA: Late 2015

    6. Chris Reed
    Position: LHP
    DOB: 05/20/1990
    Height/Weight: 6’4” 195 lbs
    Bats/Throws: L/L
    Drafted/Acquired: 1st round, 2011 draft, Stanford University
    Previous Ranking: #4 (Org)
    2013 Stats: 3.86 ERA (137.2 IP, 128 H, 106 K, 63 BB) at Double-A Chattanooga
    The Tools: 6+ FB; 5 CH; 5 SL

    What Happened in 2013: After 11 Southern League starts in 2012, Reed logged a full season of work at that level in 2013, making 25 starts and accruing over 137 innings.

    Strengths: Tall; remaining projection in body; very good arm strength; fastball is plus, with velocity in the low 90s (can bump mid-90s) and bowling bowl weight; slider can flash plus; can show sharp tilt in the 82-85 range; changeup is average offering in the mid-80s with heavy action.

    Weaknesses: Body teases more projection but has yet to fill out to projection; fastball can play down in games; heavy weight but average velocity and below-average command; slider struggles to achieve consistent sharp tilt; break can get soft; lacks true secondary weapon; overall command is below average.

    Overall Future Potential: 5; no. 4 starter

    Realistic Role: 5; late-innings reliever (setup)

    Risk Factor/Injury History: Low risk; 36 starts at Double-A level; fastball to play in bullpen now.

    Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: Reed doesn’t make for a great fantasy option in shallower leagues, as his lack of high-quality off-speed stuff will leave him lacking in the strikeout department. Plus, his control issues will leave him exposed to high WHIPs and diminished win potential. And all that is if he even ends up in the rotation.

    The Year Ahead: Reed draws mixed reviews from scouts, with several doubting his ability to offer much impact in a major-league rotation because of his average secondary arsenal and poor command. It’s easy to see a potential power arm out of the bullpen, with a heavy low-90s heater that could play up in bursts and a slider that tends to lose its intensity throughout games but could miss more bats in limited looks. The 23-year-old lefty is going to be a major leaguer in some capacity, but without improved command and a step forward with the secondary stuff, his likely contributions will come out of the bullpen, where he should be able to find some success and eventually develop into a quality late-innings option.
     
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    7. Ross Stripling
    Position: RHP
    DOB: 11/23/1989
    Height/Weight: 6’3” 190 lbs
    Bats/Throws: R/R
    Drafted/Acquired: 5th round, 2012 draft, Texas A&M University (College Station,
    TX)
    Previous Ranking: NR
    2013 Stats: 2.78 ERA (94 IP, 91 H, 83 K, 19 BB) at Double-A Chattanooga, 2.94 ERA
    (33.2 IP, 24 H, 34 K, 11 BB) at Rancho Cucamonga
    The Tools: 6 FB; 5 SL; 5 CB; 5 CH

    What Happened in 2013: In his full-season debut, the former A&M starter pitched his way to the Double-A level, mostly on the back of a plus fastball that he can locate.

    Strengths: Good size; arm slot allows a steep plane on the fastball; pitch works low-90s with good tailing action; bumps a little higher; spots the ball; works east/west; shows multiple breaking ball looks; curveball works well with sharp vertical spike; slider shows hard velocity and some tilt; changeup has tumbling action and plays as average offering; good control and improving command.

    Weaknesses: Short-stride delivery; can get too arm heavy and lose velocity in starts; lacks plus secondary offerings; arm slot can work against breaking ball deception; slider is more weak contact than wipeout.

    Overall Future Potential: 5; no. 4 starter

    Realistic Role: 5; no. 4 starter

    Risk Factor/Injury History: Low risk; mature stuff; 16 Double-A starts

    Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: Stripling isn’t a particularly interesting name for fantasy, as he profiles as more of a back-end guy here. The strikeout potential is middling for a starter at the major-league level as he doesn’t have a true putaway pitch—though he could put up helpful ratios in a perfect world.

    The Year Ahead: Stripling is a mature arm with a plus fastball and a deep secondary arsenal of playable pitches that he can throw for strikes. While he lacks the upside and stuff of his former A&M rotation-mate Michael Wacha, Stripling should be on a similar fast track to a major-league rotation, holding a fringe mid-rotation ceiling and a similar floor. Without knockout secondary stuff, Stripling needs his fastball command to be sharp to find sustainable success and to help get bats moving on the off-speed arsenal. The profile will be more weak contact than swing-and-miss, but with good size, an arm that works well, and a good overall feel for craft, the 24-year-old should pitch his way to the majors at some point in 2014, and could settle into the back end of the rotation by 2015.

    Major league ETA: 2014

    8. Tom Windle
    Position: LHP
    DOB: 03/10/1992
    Height/Weight: 6’4” 215 lbs
    Bats/Throws: L/L
    Drafted/Acquired: 2nd round, 2013 draft, University of Minnesota (Minneapolis, MN)
    Previous Ranking: NA
    2013 Stats: 2.68 ERA (53.2 IP, 50 H, 51 K, 20 BB) at Low-A Great Lakes
    The Tools: 6 FB; 6 potential SL; 5+ potential CH

    What Happened in 2013: Popped in the second round of the 2013 draft, the former college reliever-turned starter made his professional debut pitching in the Low-A rotation, making 12 starts and missing 51 bats in 53 innings.

    Strengths: Excellent size; athletic; repeatable delivery with some deception; fastball can work 91-93; bump to 94+; some late action and thrown with good angle; good short, tight slider in the 82-84 range; feel for quality changeup; low 80s with some fade; shows good control; attacks the zone.

    Weaknesses: Arm action can get stiff; fastball command is fringe-average at present; tendency to miss arm-side and up; changeup receives average projections; good deception but can too firm; overall command needs grade refinement.

    Overall Future Potential: High 5; no. 3 starter

    Realistic Role: 5; late-innings reliever (setup)

    Risk Factor/Injury History: Moderate risk; limited professional record; Low-A resume; shoulder injury (amateur).

    Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: A nice sleeper at the end of deep dynasty drafts this year, Windle has a strong arsenal that could lead to helpful ratios and a strikeout rate that would make him worth rostering in all leagues. However, the upside lies somewhere around Jonathon Niese—so don’t go too crazy.

    The Year Ahead: You can make a convincing case that Windle is underrated as a prospect, with excellent size, good athleticism and repeatability, and two above-average offerings from the left side with enough feel for a changeup to project an average or better offering. Some sources have concerns about the stiff arm-action and possible injury red flags as a result, coupled with more control than command at present, but even the rotation pessimists believe Windle could transition into a quality late-innings reliever. For now, Windle will get every opportunity to prove his mettle and merit in a rotation, and if he can iron out some of the rough edges in his delivery and improve his command, he could take a step forward in status and make his ultimate projection look more realistic.

    Major league ETA: Late 2015

    9. Onelki Garcia
    Position: LHP
    DOB: 08/02/1989
    Height/Weight: 6’3’’ 220 lbs.
    Bats/Throws: L/L
    Drafted/Acquired: 3rd round, 2012 draft, (Cuba)
    Previous Ranking: #7 (org)
    2013 Stats: 2.75 era (52.1 innings, 41 H, 32 BB, 53 K) at Double-A Chattanooga; 3.72 era (9.2 IP, 6 H, 3 BB, 14 K) at Triple-A Albuquerque
    The Tools: 6+ FB; 6+ CB

    What Happened in 2013: Working mostly in relief, Garcia pitched his way to the major-league level after showing above-average bat-missing ability in the upper minors.

    Strengths: Strong frame; intimidating presence; big arm strength from the left side; fastball works low-mid-90s; can sit 93+; big life; curveball is big hammer; low 80s on the gun with serious bite; could end up playing well above average with better command; late-innings approach.

    Weaknesses: Below-average command; limited pitchability; high effort; mostly a two-pitch reliever without rotational upside.

    Overall Future Potential: High 5; late-innings reliever (closer)

    Realistic Role: 5; late-innings reliever (setup)

    Risk Factor/Injury History: Low risk; achieved major-league level; minor injury concerns (bone spurs)

    Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: Even a slam-dunk closer prospect (which Garcia is not) isn’t a great bet in the fantasy realm, and that makes Garcia someone worth keeping tabs on, but not picking up at the moment. If your league counts holds, he’ll be more valuable in the short term, but even then he’s behind Paco Rodriguez as a lefty in the pen.

    The Year Ahead: Garcia has a nasty two-pitch mix from the left side, and if he can stay healthy and refine his command, he has legit late-innings potential, perhaps even as a closer if the command improves beyond projection. He doesn’t show a lot of pitchability, so his grip it and rip it approach proved to be a much better fit in short bursts than it projected in a rotation. He should continue to miss a lot of bats with his lively plus fastball and hard hammer curve, and could end up in a setup capacity very early in his major-league career.

    Major league ETA: Debuted in 2013

    10. Victor Arano
    Position: RHP
    DOB: 02/07/1995
    Height/Weight: 6’2” 200 lbs
    Bats/Throws: R/R
    Drafted/Acquired: International free agent, 2013, Mexico
    Previous Ranking: NA
    2013 Stats: 4.20 ERA (49.1 IP, 52 H, 49 K, 13 BB) at complex level AZL
    The Tools: 6+ potential FB; 6 potential CB; 5+ potential CH

    What Happened in 2013: In his professional debut, the Mexican right-hander showed off a mature fastball and promising secondary arsenal, missing a bat an inning.

    Strengths: Mature body; clean delivery with good arm action; very loose and easy; fastball solid-average at present in the 89-92 range; can touch mid-90s; projects to be easy plus offering; can spin a quality breaking ball; curve can show tight rotation and some depth; good projection; some feel for a good changeup; shows some fade and sink; feel for control and pitchability.

    Weaknesses: Body could be high maintenance; already showing some excess; inconsistent fastball velocity; would show 92-94 then fall to 88-90; breaking ball has tendency to get too loose and slurvy; changeup is inconsistent and can get deliberate in the release; can get very slow to the plate with runners on; struggles from stretch; more control than command.

    Overall Future Potential: 6; no. 3 starter

    Realistic Role: 5; no. 4 starter

    Risk Factor/Injury History: High risk; complex-level resume

    Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: There is never a shortage of short-season or complex arms to take a chance on and it’s very likely that more interesting ones are out there in your league. Arano could turn into something, but his stuff isn’t extreme enough to own outside of very deep leagues at the moment.

    The Year Ahead: Arano has a very easy arm with good present strength, and can pound the zone with a low-90s fastball that can bump a little higher. He shows both a quality curveball and a changeup, although both offerings are inconsistent at present. The soon-to-be 19-year-old has a high mid-rotation projection, but needs to clean up his delivery and find more comfort working out of the stretch and with runners on base. While he lacks the same present polish or projection of Julio Urias, Arano isn’t an arm to sleep on, as the fastball is really good and he could be ready to take a big step forward in 2014 if the secondary stuff finds more consistency.
     
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    Prospects on the Rise:
    1. LHP Victor Gonzalez: 18-year-old Mexican lefty with a good present fastball and changeup, Gonzalez should move up prospect lists in 2014. The body could escape him, and the breaking ball doesn’t offer much projection at this point, but the low-90s fastball and quality changeup should allow him to miss bats and barrels, regardless if he starts at the short-season level or makes the jump to full-season ball.

    2. OF Jacob Scavuzzo: After struggling in his complex-league debut, Scavuzzo erupted in the Pioneer League, hitting for average and power. The projectable outfielder has some limitations at the plate, and some sources aren’t convinced he will hit against better pitching. But as he adds strength to the frame and refines his approach—putting himself in favorable hitting conditions and not trying to pull everything—the former 21st round pick has a chance to be a very good prospect.

    3. 3B Adam Law: I’m not usually in the habit of hyping soon-to-be 24-year-old prospects without full-season experience, but sources are high on Law, suggesting the combination of hittability, well above-average speed, and feel for the game (bloodlines; son of Vance) could push the infielder up the list next season. He has a knack for hard contact, and the type of speed that would play very well in the outfield should his actions at third prove to be less-than-ideal.


    Factors on the Farm (Prospects likely to contribute at the ML level in 2014)
    1. RHP Yimi Garcia: The slender righty reliever has a knack for missing bats, using a lively low-90s fastball and a low-80s slider that can flash plus (but lacks consistency). After a strong run in Double-A and the AFL, the 23-year-old Dominican will be ready to make a major-league contribution at some point in 2014, most likely in middle relief.

    2. RHP Pedro Baez: At one time, Baez’s path to the majors was to be cut with his bat, but the conversion from the hot corner to high-leverage relief is what will take the 25-year-old to the highest level. With the potential to show a mid-90s heater and bat-missing curve, Baez has late-innings potential, and with more refined command and more experience in game situations, the transition from former positional prospect to present major-league pitcher will be complete.

    3. SS Miguel Rojas: A super slick defender, Rojas will have an opportunity to carve out a home at the major league level in 2014, either as a utility option or a starting second baseman, but the profile will have to pack more offensive punch than he provided in 2013. With Cuban import Alex Guerrero* in the best position to grab the most time at the keystone, Rojas will need to take a big step forward at the plate to justify any opportunity he might receive.


    *Alexander Guerrero was not considered a prospect because he is likely to jump straight to the big leagues without any time in the minor league developmental system.


    Top 10 Talents 25 and Under (born 4/1/88 or later)

    Yasiel Puig
    Julio Urias
    Corey Seager
    Joc Pederson
    Zach Lee
    Chris Anderson
    Chris Withrow
    Chris Reed
    Jose Dominguez
    Paco Rodriguez
    Clayton Kershaw only missed this list by 13 days; however, the Dodgers U25 list still includes big-league talent with impact bats at the top and a wide array of arms throughout. Rookie of the Year runner-up and part-time Formula One driver Yasiel Puig leads the way after breaking onto the scene last June and proving that his five-tool talent level equals his $42 million dollar contract signed in 2012.

    The list really reflects the genius of scouting director Logan White. It contains the 2007, 2010, 2011 and 2013 first round draft picks, 2012 first and second rounders, Urias, who was found in Mexico while the Dodgers were scouting Puig, and Dominguez and Pederson, who were both under-the-radar signs and now possess some of the best power at their positions.

    While the current lineup is old (oldest in the National League to be exact), help is on the way. With two top 100 prospect hitters in Seager and Pederson, the Dodgers may reverse the recent trend and fill upcoming holes internally. Neither is far away, Pederson should excel in the hitting haven that is Albuquerque and Seager looks like he may get a shot in Double-A, assuming he improves on a disappointing final month in hitter happy Rancho Cucamonga. Seager should be ready to slide in at third base in L.A. just in time for Juan Uribe’s contract to expire at the end of 2015.

    The real strength here lies in the pitching and it comes in many shapes and sizes. Urias is a top pitching prospect in baseball after more than holding his own in the Midwest League, when he should have been a junior in high school. He may move quickly and could be in the majors by 18 or 19. He never projects to be an ace but definitely at a top part of the rotation, showing very good maturity, feel and stuff so far.

    The other pitchers are three major-league relievers and three minor-league starting prospects. Dominguez and Withrow both have plus-plus fastballs with the ability to ramp it up in the high 90s—I had Dominguez at 101 regularly last season. With the whole Dodgers bullpen on one- or two-year contracts, it looks as if they, along with lefty Paco Rodriguez, will fortify the back of the pen for a long time. Rodriguez has thus far been used many times as a LOOGY but has proven that his excellent cutter can get out both righties and lefties.

    Lee, Reed, and Anderson were all first-round picks who will face stiff tests this year pitching in hitter-oriented parks. Lee could be in L.A. soon and has one of the highest floors among minor-league starters, with his good command and consistently good results thus far in the minors. Reed and Anderson both possess power stuff that could eventually translate to the pen; both will be developed patiently and get every opportunity to start. The tall and lanky left-handed Reed was 94-96 with a wipeout slider as Stanford’s closer before being drafted 16th overall in 2011 to be a starter. He has naturally lost some velocity as a starter but his heavy sinker has allowed him to become a groundball machine. Anderson is a big righty who can sit in the mid-90s as well, and impressed in his pro debut, pitching a combined 151 innings with a 2.34 ERA between college and Class-A Great Lakes.

    Overall, the future looks very bright for the Dodgers, with a well-rounded U25 list. With middle-of-the-order type bats in Puig, Joc and Seager, and all the power arms, the Dodgers have players in the majors and throughout the minors still 25 or under that should be good contributors in L.A. They could also be key pieces should the Dodgers decide, as in 2012, to trade for the next corps of already established stars.—Steffan Segui


    A Parting Thought: While the Dodgers system is heavier with future major-league contributors [read: role players, average players/pitchers, relievers] than future major-league superstars, the overall system should be judged positively as a result, as actual development has more value than projected dreams.
     
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    Boom.
     
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    thanks for sharing chris
     
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    thanks for posting this. good to read on the progress of the names we've been hearing for a while now.
     
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    Greatly appreciated Chris
    Would support and buy if I wasnt apart of broke boi enterprise
     
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    Thanks for posting the article info, fellas! Always appreciated.
     
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    A couple things I took from this list:

    Urias: A little surprised they have his ceiling as a number 2, the way Parks has been talking about him I would have viewed him as a potential ace. Truth is, he is still 17 and we don't have any idea how tall he will get.

    Pederson: From what I had heard his swing and miss stuff against LHP seemed fairly curable. That will be a big thing to watch this season.

    Lee: I really worry about the way he will be viewed in LA. He has been propped up as an ace in waiting thanks to that big contract. Those of us who read and follow the prospect scene, know that he is not that type of player. I hope when he gets up, people don't expect the second coming of Kershaw or at least a Greinke type. He will not need to be an ace for this club and with 3 guys already locked up ahead of him, it would be great for him to be a #3 type pitcher in the 4th or 5 spot in the rotation.

    Anderson: There was plenty of talk on his ability to dial it up and work in the mid 90's and touch uppers, but Parks waited until the very end of the article to touch on it and ignored it on his write up. I thought this was due to the organization tweaking his mechanics. Seems like if they figured that out, he should have a much higher rating, or at least should by next year.

    Reed: MOVE HIM BACK TO THE FUCKING BULLPEN ALREADY!!! God I hate when we try to move guys from the pen back to a starter.

    Overall, pretty happy with what the scouting department has been able to do in a short time. Apparently we have reformed a pipeline with Mexico, which should be interesting to watch. Also excited for the first year of the newly assembled Int scouting department, there are some big names now with this club.
     
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    Also, thanks for posting this Chris. I loved my baseball prospectus subscription, but it pretty much took over my life so I had to cancel.
     
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    Kind of strange to hear that some scouts are saying Urias doesn't have a lot of projection left for his stuff.
    "several sources question arsenal projection (more polish and present than projection)"...or did I misinterpret that? I was thinking that his stuff could possibly get a bit nastier in the next few years. I mean of course it's possible for his stuff to stay the same but I was just thinking that's a bit of a ballsy prediction to make about a 17 year old. I was hoping he could develop his stuff a little more and be a possible ace. They have his ceiling as a #2. Of course I would be thrilled for him to become a number 2 but I was just thinking....What do some of you guys that are knowledgeable on prospects think? Out of the question that he could become a bonafide #1?
     
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    Funny, I was typing my post while you submitted this. I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one who thought that. I agree with your assessment. We really don't know what's going to happen. You would think it would be pretty much standard for scouts to add a little projection to a 17 year old, though. I wonder what those guys are seeing that makes them think that all that's left is some polish?
     
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    They all kind of go back to his height being a factor, but nevermind that he grew 2 inches since signing a little over a year ago. I guess the real thing is, nobody has really seen this before and they don't know how to grade it.
     
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    Anybody wanna post KLaws top dodgers prospects/top 100?
     
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    KLAW... 5 top 100 prospects. Nice to see Anderson in there. Logan white the god

    *******

    Dodgers' Top 10
    Player, POS (Top 100 rank)
    1. Julio Urias, LHP (14)
    2. Corey Seager, 3B (18)
    3. Joc Pederson, OF (41)
    4. Zach Lee, RHP (75)
    5. Chris Anderson, RHP (96)
    6. Jesmuel Valentin, SS
    7. Tom Windle, LHP
    8. Ross Stripling, RHP
    9. Alexander Guerrero, 2B
    10. Kyle Farmer, C
    Los Angeles Dodgers
    Org rank: 11

    Farm system overview

    This is the best front five the Dodgers have had since the Matt Kemp/Andre Ethier/Russell Martin era, led by a pair of teenagers, Julio Urias and Corey Seager. The Dodgers' drafts, other than the cash-strapped 2011 year, have been successful at getting talent into the system, with Corey Seager, Zach Lee, and Chris Anderson all first-rounders, Jesmuel Valentin in the sandwich round, and Tom Windle in the second, while Joc Pederson was a big bonus signing in the 11th round.

    Valentin is a premium defender whose bat is still an open question. Windle looked better after signing than he had in the spring at Minnesota, picking up strength as the weather warmed up, eventually hitting 95 mph in instructional league with a plus slider at 84 mph -- way above what I saw from him back in March.

    Alexander Guerrero may hit, but he's got a stiff body and reports on his defense from winter ball were poor. Kyle Farmer, a shortstop at the University of Georgia, converted to catching after signing and picked it up quickly, with good energy and plenty of arm.

    Also of note: Lefty Chris Reed (No. 11), a clear reliever but ready to pitch in the majors whenever he's needed; Scott Barlow (No. 12) and Zach Bird (No. 13), discussed below as sleepers; and converted infielder Pedro Baez (No. 15), now throwing hard on the mound but still working on the art of pitching as a reliever in Double-A. Right fielder Joey Curletta (No. 14) hit well in rookie-level Ogden at age 19; he's got a thick, strong build and is pretty short to the ball, with plus power in BP but a more contact-oriented approach during games.

    2014 impact

    There's hardly any room at the inn in Los Angeles for rookies. Guerrero might be the second baseman if the Dodgers can live with his below-average glove, and some of their relief prospects, especially Chris Withrow and Reed, will log major league innings this year.

    The fallen

    For all the hype James Baldwin Jr. had due to his plus speed and his bloodlines, he hasn't performed: Repeating low-A at age 21, he hit .238/.323/.388 and struck out in 36 percent of his at-bats.

    Sleeper

    Last year's sleeper, Bird, struggled with command and control in low-A, but was a little better after a demotion to the Pioneer League. He still has a great arm and a chance for three average or better pitches, but his youth (he turned 19 in July) and inexperience (he's from a high school in rural Mississippi) showed. Also, keep an eye on Barlow, back this year after missing 2012 due to Tommy John surgery, still waiting for the last of his velocity to return -- if it does at all
     
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    Baldwin Jr. is local for me, I work with an uncle of his in Pinehurst. I had hopes he'd do at least as well as his dad as far as achieving some level of success, but I knew he'd have to find the secret to getting on base to do that. Unless he blooms late, he looks to be a Dee Gordon re-run and there is currently no room on the roster for a one tool player.
     
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