NEWS/RUMORS Thread

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  1. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    re-signing wilson, uribe and howell... good
    but letting mark and punto walk... not so much
    who are we going to get that can play 2b, ss and 3b if necessary?
    cesar izturis? elliot johnson? ramon santiago?
    :facepalm:
     
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    How many times last year did we have all 4 of those OF'ers healthy at the same time? Plus even SVS got some time.

    If everyone's fighting for a job it breeds competition.
     
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    My guess is another busted up has been rejuvenation project.

    Eric Chavez? Youk? Is bloomquist still out there?
     
  4. CapnTreee

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    Fixed...

    Looks like Ned is wagering All In on this Guerrero kid.
     
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    @dylanohernandez: In interview with 710 AM, Ned Colletti named Miguel Rojas as a candidate to be #Dodgers' 2B, along with Alexander Guerrero and Dee Gordon.

    Anyone know this Rojas kid?
     
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    Still have Justin Sellers. Miguel Rojas played at Chatt the entire year and had a cup of coffee i.e. 1 at bat with us last year. Eric Chavez just signed with the D-fags.

    Scouting emphasis on display again:

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/la/...ymd=20131217&content_id=66046092&vkey=news_la
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    Let me speculate. Tanaka is posted and surprise surprise he signs with Scott Boras. Unlike previous ownership Boras and Kasten love each other and Boras has his own suite at Dodger stadium where he can monitor, support etc his clients. so Tanaka signs and Boras and Kasten do as they have done before come up with a price and all dance together in the sunset while others steam. I didn't use to like Boras but now with Kasten I love him.
     
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    DODGERS REPORT
    Can the Dodgers bank on Alexander Guerrero?
    By Mark Saxon | ESPNLosAngeles.com

    An air of mystery still surrounds the man who might be the Los Angeles Dodgers' starting second baseman next season.

    The Dodgers are contributing to that by keeping a tight lid on information about Alexander Guerrero, perhaps in an effort to tamp down the hype, perhaps because they’re hesitant to divulge the remainder of their off-season plans to other teams?

    I asked their international scouting director, Bob Engle, for a scouting report and was referred to general manager Ned Colletti. I asked the Dodgers media relations staff if they could help me get in touch with special assistant Jose Vizcaino, who recently worked with Guerrero in the Dominican Republic, and was told the team would prefer I not interview Vizcaino about Guerrero.

    So, for now, all we’re left with is this comment from Colletti: “Hard worker, wants to be great, learning second base, good shortstop.”

    The Dodgers were hoping to get a head start on determining if Guerrero was ready to play every day this winter, but Guerrero injured his hamstring playing for Gigantes del Cibao in the Dominican winter league. According to the team’s roster, Guerrero is out again, listed as day-to-day. He hasn’t played since Dec. 12.

    He has played exclusively second base and, in 12 games, is batting .289 with three doubles, a home run, two walks, seven strikeouts and an error. Again, not a lot to go on.

    The Dodgers might not know if he’s an option for Opening Day until spring training, but if they wait until then, they might not have proper coverage if he isn’t. Right now, there is no one listed under Guerrero on the team’s official depth chart. Dee Gordon has played there a bit, but he hardly seems like an everyday option. Mark Ellis has agreed to join the St. Louis Cardinals, so that ship has sailed. Nick Punto and Skip Schumaker are both long gone.

    It seems likely the Dodgers are looking for some veteran middle-infield depth. Alexi Casilla, Chris Getz, Elliot Johnson, Robert Andino, Cesar Izturis and Paul Janish all remain unsigned.

    But the Dodgers wouldn’t have signed Guerrero to a $28 million, four-year contract if they thought he was a long-term project. Obviously, they hit on their previous signing out of Cuba. Maybe you've heard of Yasiel Puig? But that signing was under Logan White, who no longer oversees the Dodgers' international scouting.

    Playing in Cuba’s top league, Serie Nacional, Guerrero batted .290 with a .402 on-base percentage, .576 slugging percentage and 21 home runs in his final season. He had more walks (39) than strikeouts (30).

    Baseball America’s Ben Badler offered this scouting report shortly after Guerrero defected and was trying out for teams in the Dominican:

    "Guerrero's best tool is his right-handed power ... Guerrero takes an uppercut stroke and he loses his balance against breaking pitches. It's a pull-oriented, swing-for-the-fences approach that scouts think he will have to change to hit quality pitching.

    Since arriving in the Dominican Republic, Guerrero has shown improved speed with above-average times in the 60-yard dash, which is highly unusual for a 26-year-old to start running faster ... [Some] scouts think he can stay in the middle of the infield, although shortstop is probably out of the question. His hands and actions are playable but he doesn't have the first-step quickness or range to play shortstop and he can be a bit stiff in the field. Second base could be an option for him and a team that likes him a lot will probably play him there."

    Given that signing Guerrero has been the Dodgers' most-expensive off-season move so far, it's clear that they liked his skill set.Now that Juan Uribe has agreed to a new two-year contract, it's clear that Guerrero's opportunity will come at second base. The rest of it, for the next two months, remains decidedly unclear.

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    kemp for price?
    don't know the credibility of these sources so :shrug: link1 / link2


    was interested until i read this part...

    "The Dodgers are expected to come up with a trade package consisting of Kemp, Zach Lee, 2012 first-rounder Corey Seager and outfielder Joc Pederson."

    yeah, thanks but no thanks...

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    lets throw in kershaw
     
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    :giggle:
     
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    No way, we'd almost have to kick the Rays an extra 500MM as well.
     
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    How is it we are trying to get the best package possible when it says kemp, lee, Seager and pederson could be in the deal? That makes zero sense to me
     
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    Guggenheim knows what they are doing and the change from McCourt couldn't be more dramatic. What boycott are those preachers still yapping away?
     
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    now, on 1 hand that's a potential package that smells of " bidding against themselves ".

    and then on the other hand...here's our lineup with those 4 guys gone...

    Puig
    CC
    Hanley
    AGon
    Guerrero
    Ethier
    Uribe
    AJ

    ....basically the same lineup that got us to the NLCS except for Guerrero, so as far as what we'd lose from last year's actual on-field product...not a whole lot it seems. so if, and that's a big IF, they do decide to give up that much for Price we should still be good to go on the major league level. and i've seen people on this site knock Joc Pederson's skillset/talent, so who's the say that management is really all that in love with him? we all know Zach Lee projects as a #3 starter...not likely to miss him. we love Seager, but here's a guy with no certain position in the field + there's gonna eventually be an issue at either of the left side positions because of Hanley's presence over what we figure will be the next 5 years, so Seager has to battle that as well. and then you have the reports of the front office maybe souring on Kemp. i mean that package looks crazy from the outside looking in, but there's a decent case that could be made in that management isn't really in love with any of those players. still, it'd leave us hurting on the farm, but being that they have guys locked up on long term deals they'll have some time to restock the everyday talent. we'll still have arms...Urias, Stripling, Onelki, Dominquez...
     
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    Price WANTS to be a free agent!! Why trade any future however untested for a guy who will go on the open market, makes no sense to me. By the way Urias is going to be in any package that the Rays ask for and I'm not willing to trade a 17 year old with that much upside. FYI: The prospects being talked about also happens to be our 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th ranked prospects.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/news/prospects/index.jsp?c_id=la
     
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