NEWS/RUMORS Thread

If we win the World Series this year, it was all worth it. Suddenly, not getting Guerrero becomes the first step to drafting Kershaw, the bankruptcy brought in Seager, etc.

 

Yeah, I'll definitely welcome Sabathia. He may not be a reliable #2 in the reg season, but he's still an October/big game pitcher and we plan on being in a few of those. Walk him through the season with a few 10 day DL stints and keep him away from Joc's hotel room where room service is in rapid rotation. That's if they don't bring Darvish back and he's still interested

 

So you're saying getting some quality head in 2017 erases years of prison rape?

 

Dee Minus will never be a Dodger again. Trading him was on par with signing Jackie Robinson and drafting Kershaw.

 

Stanton is the new Villar.

 

Stanton costs way too much. I say continue to let money come off the books, pay our arb guys and wait for Harper.

 

I honestly think the Dodgers will target only Otani this offseason and MAYBE retaining Darvish if the price is right. They won’t be looking to add too much in long term payroll obligations so close to the 2018 FA period.

Speaking of Otani, in the event he is signed this offseason, do not pencil him into a major league rotation. He’ll be the youngest Japanese superstar to come to MLB and is far less refined compared to the greats that came before him. He very well could start 2018 in AA-AAA much like how the good younger Cuban players go. Not to mention, he just missed most of this season and hardly threw. He’s probably not a factor in MLB in 18 and he’s also very likely going to the AL as I don’t see any NL teams allowing him to play the field on his off days, not after what happened this season.

Back to the Dodgers, they’re gonna have a lot of dead money again in 2018 and may choose to do some things we view as weird in response to that and getting Stanton is probably not in the cards. I think regardless what the team does this post season, there’s going to be a lot of rumors about the Dodgers shopping guys, though it may not mean that a lot gets done. They added a ton of long term payroll last year and really don’t need to do much as the young guys knocking at the door are probably upgrades to what we have right now(Verdugo in CF, Taylor to 2B, a dead lifeless corpse in LF). The rest of the roster is controlled long term outside of our pitching which is stacked at the MiLB level. So wholesale changes at any position is not likely to occur.

 

What's the " right price " for Darvish? Because obviously this is a talented player, has made 4 all star teams and was an all star as recently as this season. And he's doing pretty well for his value with his mid-September/October run..and there's probably a good enough chance that he could be LAD's best starter next year, if not that, then it's most reliable postseason starter. All to say, Darvish should be paid handsomely. His stuff is off the charts and physical make up the same. If LAD is looking to get him on a cheaper than normal deal they may have to try convincing him that they could get the best of out him, that he could have a shot at adding some HOF credentials with LAD, that he/Otani/Maeda could be a part of something special. He should absolutely get more than the 110M that Jordan Zimmermann got from Detroit.

 

I honestly don't think this FO would go beyond a 4 year offer for him based on his age and probably in the realm of 23-25 a year. He is basically the same age that Greinke was when he hit free agency and he has not had nearly the career that Greinke had at this point, nor was he close to having the season that Greinke was coming off of. Darvish is a great pitcher, no doubt, but the org is in a much different place than it was 2 years ago and I could see them saying, "Look, we really like you, but we aren't spending 30 a season over 5 to retain you when our farm is littered with top flight pitching talent. That is just my opinion based on the way this org has gone about business in the past, but I could be very wrong.

 

Haha, a buddy of mine just got his "Take 17" Rockies shirt this morning... he was not happy.

 

The comparison to Greinke is OK, but its missing 1 thing..the WS ring. If Darvish keeps doing what he's doing and is the best starter we have in this postseason run, they should value that. And then of course there are outside factors like the attention Darvish brings from Japan. If they were wiling to go 5 for Greinke, they should go 5 for Darvish. Im not saying load him up with 150M, but based on raw stuff Darvish has Greinke whipped. Don't need to be a pro scout to see that. They've got some young top tier pitching coming, but who's truly reliable for next season's WS chase? I mean as in getting through the season and taking the ball in October...