DODGERS NEWS/RUMORS Thread

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  1. BlueMouse

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    No kidding, it must be nice to get in a pissing contest where no one gets paid while the rest of the country is struggling. I think both sides are worried about giving in now and how that will affect their leverage for the upcoming CBA. Owners don’t want players to know they could easily afford to pay everyone twice as much, and players don’t want owners to know they would still play for 1/10th the salary.
     
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    Welp, sounds like owners are pushing to get a season in and have significantly upped their offer. Nevermind, it is the same offer for money. There is a rumor that today was the last day they had so that they could have games on July 4. Here is the proposal according to Karl Ravech
    "MLB has made proposal to Players. 75 percent Prorated salary. 76 game season. Playoff pool money. No draft pick compensation for signing player. Season finishes September 27th. Post season ends at end of October. Significant move towards players demands and effort to play more."
     
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    My expertise is that of a corporate investigator. Information broker/research specialist. I am generally biassed towards the underdog. In this case I side with the owners from a business perspective. They made the accepted offer with an understanding that there would be fans in the stands. They CLEARLY put verbage in the proposal that states that it would be renegotiated if fans were not going to be there to help pay the bills.

    The players have repeatedly called themselves partners when they go to the bargaining table. They believe they are partners and demand to be considered partners. Well, that's a reasonable stance but partners have skin in the game. Partners don't profit share. They ride the stock. Its VERY reasonable for the owners to expect a bill split.

    Asking owners to open the books is just posturing by the players union. It's important to note that the owners are not asking the players to cover their losses. They are asking them to pay the tip. Anyone can extrapolate the losses to within a percentage. Opening the books is a non starter. It's impossible to ask that and the union knows it.

    The players union got bent in the last negotiations and are using this as a primer for the next cba. Tony Clark is so far over his head that he is drowning.
     
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    Owners keep making the same offer with different amounts of games. This feels like it’s gonna end up the 48 games forced upon players way. And then it won’t be even worth watching because whoever wins it all will be less legit than the 2017 Astros.
     
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    I really don't think the season needed to be postponed in the first place.
    Maybe a couple of weeks to iron out the details with prorated salaries and establish a league-wide strategy for travel, temperature checks, etc but delaying everything indefinitely was pretty stupid.
    MLB had an opportunity to experiment with television presentation, temporary realignments, bigger rosters, rules, etc with very little scrutiny because of the unprecedented circumstance. Is basically a free ticket to do whatever you want and be the only game in town.
    Instead, they do this.
     
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    I wonder how the experts at Dodgers Digest are dealing with this.
     
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    Experts at Dodgers Digest?
     
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    I can’t imagine anything pushing me away from baseball more than a 16 team playoffs. Just don’t play if that’s the only option
     
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    I think that all the time. If we’d have already won one I wouldn’t care at all.
     
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    I would have liked the Dodgers to win in 2008 or 2013 when I still had some child-like appreciation for the game left.
    Or 2017 which was a magical season for any age.
    I think if the Dodgers won in 2017, we'd all be content for a decade.

    But as I've gotten older, I've grown contempt for professional sports in many ways.
    Social media has amplified the cultural and political crossover too much and the sportswriters/hosts are pretentious as ever.
    We know way too much about our athletes and those who write about them.
    It makes it less unifying and fun.

    Then there's the whole 30+ year drought that was extended by cheating.

    I'm not sure I can ever go back to loving the Dodgers as I once did.
    Would've been cool to win when I was still invested in the same way.

    I'm at a crossroads with the Dodgers.
    I do miss so many aspects about what Dodger baseball [used to] be, but it is liberating to not care.
     
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    If you don't mind me asking, where you headed?
     
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    I hear that, the housing prices are insane. I look sometimes, and to get something decent near where my wife and I work (Irvine) you are looking at $1 million as a base, or $800 k for something that is adequate but I don't really want. I've done a lot of math on it, and I just can't justify buying in this market.
     
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    Sounds like you need the Bible belt. I never made a dime or appreciated things until I moved to MO. I'm a California boy at heart but Mo has truly become my home.
     
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    I've got one foot out of California, having moved from the heart of the Bay Area to the foothills. My parents are aging pretty quickly and they are the primary reason I'm still in this state... well, they and the clients I serve. In terms of real estate, it's absurd how little of house and land I sold there and how much of each I bought here. Plus the political attitude is so different here - everyone is not automatically a liberal. But for all the improvements this move has afforded me, I'm still taxed at the same ridiculous rate and still am watching the dickhead governor run the state into the ground as he did San Francisco. So at some point, that other foot is following.

    My cousin made the move out of state to northwest Arkansas. huh?, you should take a look. I think it checks many of your boxes.
     
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    Soweto is nice year round.
     
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    Racist!!!
     
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    Let me know if you want me to send you homes, set you up on a drip or just chat about the market here. My office is in Fort Collins now and I’m living in Erie, so I know northern Colorado well as it’s where most of my transactions are(basically Denver to Wyo border). Will tell you that the northern burbs are seeing big jumps in prices now with Boulder and FortCo tech exploding.
     
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    I can't believe what has happened in Longmont. I graduated from Niwot in 2003, so I was very aware of the shittiness of Longmont. It really wasn't even doing anything until about 3 years ago, then it just took off when all the Boulder tech kids realized it was an easy drive to work and not technically the burbs. I sold some friends a house in Longmont for $350K 3 years ago and they just got it appraised at $500K in November. To say they were excited would be an understatement.
     
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    There are rumors that we could see a proposal from MLB tomorrow to the MLBPA with somewhere around a 78 game season and potentially full pay for the players. We shall see...
     
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    For where the Dodgers were picking in the draft and them not having an overwhelming number of extra picks, there are a lot of scouting services that feel we had one of the best drafts in the league. All the picks came with the add on of "and with their player development department..." which was pretty funny as basically all 4 pitchers have front of the rotation upside now according to a lot of the outlets. It was a strong haul in a weird circumstance, now the Dodgers are expected to be one of the most aggressive teams out there trying to land undrafted FA's.
     
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