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Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by irish, Feb 9, 2014.

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  1. carolinabluedodger

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    Maybe I'm thin skinned and took it personal, my apologies.

    What evs, ...JMO that it is less counterproductive (is that a double negative?) to talk about the list than to talk about the person.
     
  2. carolinabluedodger

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    Wait.

    You read 140 pages of a fucked up psycho?
     
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  3. Doughty8

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    ^I don't know the whole story on his guns but didn't it make sense for them to take them away from him? The parents had a hunch he could go over the edge for over a month I think.
     
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    I think I read somewhere that his parents contacted the police after watching some of his videos.
     
  5. Based God

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    Yup. Wanted to see the cognitive processes of him. The media will only tell you a few quotes without much context. I wanted to know what led to it, why, what he was feeling, thinking etc. It's really interesting to be in the minds of these people because they're so different than the "normal" person
     
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    I'd like to point out that his guns and ammunition were all bought under the strictest anti 2nd amendment gun laws in the country.

    Hence, gun control laws do not work.
     
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    That may be true but would a background check revealed a possible mental issue? I only brought up the guns because there were several signs that he was losing it and MAYBE taking some of his guns would have stopped this and MAYBE he would have just hung himself. Again however not every state has background checks which is MY issue not the right to bear arms.
     
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    That's the real problem isn't it? We need to keep guns away from people with mental issues. However that can't happen because we have to be overly sensitive to people's mental health issues. Maybe making guns the forbidden fruit has romanticized them. Personally I don't believe any gun control legislation works. It's less about keeping people safe from guns than it is about the desire to ban them entirely. The govt doesn't want you to own a gun, the nazis did the same thing before they took over. I'm not comparing the ca or fed govt to the nazis but I will say they share the same affinity for gun control.

    I myself am a law abiding responsible gun owner. I don't mind background checks because I have nothing to hide. This kid didn't mind it either. So clearly background checks and ridiculous waiting times simply don't work. Let's look at real ways of avoiding gun violence. I can tell you this, it doesn't start with making it harder for me to buy them.
     
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    ^I am never worried about the law abiding people but I do know it's never going to be easy but to put the very minimum of strain to get guns may just may sway a potential lunatic. I also have a HUGE problem with the leap from placing restrictions to outright ban. There are a few factions who want that but logically minded people don't. The NRA and it paranoid leaders think people are out to get them, I say STFU. It just makes me so angry when people say people like me or liberals want a total ban and that is not true AT ALL. Even if it doesn't work it should be a VERY MINIMAL requirement and the NRA leaders and some lunatics are steadfast against it. I mean most NRA rank and file members are for backgrounds for crying out loud. Nothing above is directed at you however SC but it is a pet peeve of mine.
     
  10. rube

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    Agreed
    I apologize for chick comment.
    not my usual style but I've been less rube more ruve lately.
    But it's good to repent.

    Sometimes I use one situation to comment on an angle broader.
    in doing so I throw many shoes and some fit one guy some another, etc..
    But I see how one guy can think he's supposed to put on all the shoes.
    Then again some guys have shoe fetishes. :)
     
  11. rube

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    If you live in a city you will lose your guns unless you have the money power to buy influence when it's buyandsell time.
    But if you still got guns in the city by then most likely you wouldn't appreciate the Nazi stories as things get closer to home.
     
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    Landon Donovan with an emphatic in your face to Jurgen with 2 goals to become the all-time leading goal scorer in MLS history!!!
     
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    Doughty I support background checks I just think they are useless. Criminals aren't going to walk into Big 5 and try to buy a gun. Also look at the recent tragedies involving guns, stricter sick ground checks wouldn't have prevented any of them.

    My pet peeve is people blindly blaming guns and calling for more gun control after things like this happen. A gun has never nor will never kill anyone.

    I respect your points, I just disagree. I also whole heartedly believe if Gov Brown and Pres Obama could ban guns they would in an instant. Absolutely no doubt in my mind.
     
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    Gun control wont stop anything
    And its not like a criminal is going to admit to wanting to shoot up innocent people if there is a screening process
    "plans to use this firearm? Yeahh, im just gonna shoot some niggas at school".. Seriously if a criminal wants to get a gun and commit these acts, theyll find a way
    Shit i got friends who know people where i can get a gun on the low. Its not that hard. Its prob easier than finding a good connect for weed these days. Rube can comment on this...

    On that, I think i need to cop myself a nina. just to tell people i stay strapped :cool:
     
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    they are going to take the guns of people with mental or emotional issues.
    And that will be an ever widening list of issues.
    And that's cool to most because who wants undesirables with rights?
    But then they will remind you how everyone is essentially on the crazy scale.
    That we all just chimps ready to kill and rape at the drop of hat if not for Lord G keeping us all from giving in to our animal urges.
    So then most anyone can be cut off when dirt needs to be found.
    Cuz everyone has medical records if he lives in the city.
    And most take some kind of pill.
    If you are prescribed a head pill it means you mental.
    If you take pill then you truly are.
    If not before you are now as the pill confirms mental defect if it's needed and if taken by the sane it may make them less than.
    You now playing the catch game, one of many.
    Either way you officially a mental patient.
    If they so want to tag you. And they will.

    The groundwork being paved with each shooting.
    Americans will support anything if they kept being told it's for their safety and protection from things that go bump in the night.
     
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    so in other words, . . . women
     
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    :laff:
     
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    and you would think if they came to visit a person that had his own family call because they feared he was going off the rails they would have at least searched his room and car and removed the weapons from his possession.
     
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    Laws, whatever they may be and whatever they are trying to "control", are for the law abiding. Period.
    What does "law" or a "control" mean to a criminal ?
     
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    Laws are for the criminal minded.
    They absolutely need law or else they will commit crimes.
    But everyone is guilty pretty much so the law serves only to convict.
    Most of us have broken or have wanted to break a law.
    But the fact that it was unlawful stopped us.
    Man needs law because man wants to do evil pretty frequently because a lot of times we call evil good and then chronic confusion sets.
    Once it's set it goes down upon the waves of tranquility where what was phoenished was put to its cold wet sleep until morning breaks.
     
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