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  1. CapnTreee

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    Tomorrow is Tax Day for Americans.. too bad it will never be Tax Day for these mega corporations that paid not a penny and yet get returns instead on billions in earnings. Figures are in Millions of $. Example Amazon made $10,835,000,000 in earnings and received a tax refund of $129,000,000 so they got back a ~1% refund on $0 moneys paid proving Jack Welch's point that it's far cheaper to purchase a few Congressmen and hire a few current and former IRS employees who write tax code to specifically suit these corporate behemoths.

    Like it or don't like it but learn who your enemy is and it isn't some loudmouth Irishman who attempts to show you the data of how you're getting screwed. We knew the @GOP was just doing a giant favor for their corporate donors and friends. We knew it would add to an already unsustainable deficit. And we knew the middle class were an afterthought but seeing it in dollars not being paid brings the pain home.

    So if you're voting GOP know that you're either a billionaire or you're stupid. Check your own wallet.

    Company U.S. Income Federal Tax Effective Tax Rate
    Amazon.com $10,835 –129 –1%
    Delta Air Lines $5,073 –187 –4%
    Chevron $4,547 –181 –4%
    General Motors $4,320 –104 –2%
    EOG Resources $4,067 –304 –7%
    Occidental Petroleum $3,379 –23 –1%
    Honeywell International $2,830 –21 –1%
    Deere $2,152 –268 –12%
    American Electric Power $1,943 –32 –2%
    Principal Financial $1,641 –49 –3%
    FirstEnergy $1,495 –16 –1%
    Prudential Financial $1,440 –346 –24%
    Xcel Energy $1,434 –34 –2%
    Devon Energy $1,297 –14 –1%
    DTE Energy $1,215 –17 –1%
    Halliburton $1,082 –19 –2%
    Netflix $856 –22 –3%
    Whirlpool $717 –70 –10%
    Eli Lilly $598 –54 –9%
    IBM $500 –342 –68%
    Goodyear Tire & Rubber $440 –15 –3%
    Penske Automotive Group $393 –16 –4%
    Aramark $315 –48 –15%
    AECOM Technology $238 –122 –51%
    Tech Data $203 –10 –5%
    Performance Food Group $192 –9 –4%
    Arrow Electronics $167 –12 –7%
    Source: Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy
     
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  2. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

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    All that matters from this post is that you think half of the country is stupid.
     
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    TAFNAC Cossack Staff Member Administrator

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    I think more like 90% are stupid...ore more accurately, not appropriately informed on the issues that they're deciding with their votes.
     
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    or more accuratly?
    Stupid and Ignorant/Uninformed are wildly different.
    You can take it as a given that people are uninformed or ignorant of most of these subjects.
    But not stupid.
    That is the same as calling people deplorable.
    Just wait till the stupid deplorables get tired of all the intelligent gentiles.
     
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    TAFNAC Cossack Staff Member Administrator

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    Yeah..that's why I corrected it inline.
    Uninformed is more correct.
    But how do you describe it when people are purposely uninformed or misinformed?
    Deplorably informed?

    And it's absolutely a concern if all the deplorables get sick of it. Not good for any society if lots of people are unhappy about things. That's why we need more bread and circuses.
     
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    But then that means you need to conquer more breadbaskets and big tents.
    Problem is that once you empty the breadbaskets and big tents where do you think those populations are gonna go?
    America leaves bastards all over the world.
    Those bastards eventually want to look for daddy.
    And they all know who their daddy is.
    He who feeds you and spanks you.

    When people are purposely uninformed they are willfully ignorant. Still ignorant though.
    Misinformed is another term for lied to. Be it by accident or maliciously.
    Are people who vote against their immediate interest misinformed?
    Not if they have a different way of looking at the information.
    Maybe the kind of people who seem ignorant or stupid are simply the kind of people who know the value of struggle and understand that doing what is best for others is best for all of us. Maybe they do what they feel is best for the country at large, the economy, those less fortunate, or even those that control the captain chairs of industry.
    Maybe these stupid people who vote for laws that help those that view them as stupid instead of for laws to help themselves because they know that those that see them as stupid need the help more than they do.
    The only true deplorables are the ones who see common people as deplorable.
    And even then you gotta cut them some slack.
    Because they are just poor pitiful people who have way too much education to know what to do with the money they have been blessed with. Their schooling has clouded their judgment because an overload of information/facts makes you think like you know enough to pass judgment.
    You have to pity them and help them.
    They truly have no idea what they are doing to themselves.

    Like Nero did the middle and upper classes will blame the deplorables.
    Because the deplorables warned them that the fire was coming.
    And now that the fire is burning downtown all that Nero can do is blame the deplorables.
    Because since the deplorables smelled the fart first why arent they shitting their pants?
    Maybe the deplorable was just the canary in the coal mine who is tired of singing only to die and this time wore some flame retardant depends.
    We didn't start the fire... but we can sure play a mean fiddle.
     
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    People who vote against their own interests may or may not be misinformed.
    They may be choosing to sacrifice for the greater good. Or they may value something more than their own interests.
    But often, people are duped into voting for something they think is in their interest but really isn't.
    Or even more often, and even more dangerous, people are duped into voting for something they think is for the greater good, but is really only in a few peoples' interests.
     
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    Are you duped?
     
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    TAFNAC Cossack Staff Member Administrator

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    I don't vote, so no.
    At least not about that.
    But all the rubes get duped from time to time, don't we?
     
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  10. CapnTreee

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    Ignorant or uninformed is one thing
    Repeatedly ignoring plain data that all can verify tells everyone that you're no longer ignorant but willfully uninformed
    Remaining willfully uninformed over time is not done by those at all interested in learning to make their lives better
    Choosing to be duped over and over is plainly not a trait of a learned man
    Claiming to be duped because the liar stoked inner racist fears is also not being duped

    It's being stupid. On purpose.

    Now go ahead and defend Trump and his racist lies again and compel me to use even simpler words

    You weren't being duped. And you don't resent being insulted by the word stupid.
    You just don't like hearing truth from Me.

    In fact others might attempt to argue being duped but not you @rube
    You like to teach using obscure parables, surely not the sign of one claiming to be being duped.
    I've learned much from you personally Rube. Because I care enough not to be duped.
    I remain surprised at the antipathy I encounter here at DSP led by your charge
     
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    All the time too.
     
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  12. CapnTreee

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    Not voting confirms you're being duped better than many
    For you've given up trying, happier to snipe from the sidelines
    Pointing fingers at those who do
    Falsely pious about your not contributing to the mess when truthfully you contribute the most
    Now what was that about repeated willful ignorance... riiiiiiight
    I tend to agree that all humans can be duped for the lying charlatans get more clever by the day
    Education and earnest effort solve most of that but..
    Willful ignorance is hard to overcome
    When it doesn't want to be
     
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    So not voting = being duped.
    But u think the people who voted for Trump are the worst stupid dupes.
    So the vast majority of Americans don't vote. And those that do voted Trump into office.

    That leaves you and people like you as the only legitimate voices in this country.
    A smaller but very vocal group that plans of getting rid of all the dupes so we can finally all live in peace with smart educated people. The best and brightest. Our shinning ones.

    Hey ever seen the shinning?
    It's luciferian in it's shine.
    Shiny happy people holding hands.
    But what about those deploroable over populated stupid dupes killing your vibe?
    They ones that don't make it in utopia.

    Maybe u can dupe em into getting into some swanky new high speed rail that will take them all out to the bohemian forest outside of the Gay area where they can light up the woods like Christmas trees again like a few years ago.
    Oh what fun it is to ride on a holocaust powered train!
     
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    So you can't vote for Trump
    and you can't abstain from voting

    What's the other option?
     
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    Yield to the perceived intellectual superiority of the orthodoxy.
     
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    Since Sowell's name came up earlier this week:

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    Oy, this is one of your best ones, Rube.
    Well done.
     
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  18. CapnTreee

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    A rather fervent lot of replies.. and nice off topic memes too.. though pitifully few salient thoughts to offer

    Not voting in one of the few lands where voting is permitted is akin to placing your head in the sand
    Except that when your head is in the sand the rest of us don't have to listen to you prattle on about issues where you refuse all data
    Here everyone chimes in like jackals
    In support of group ignorance. Again. Back to the sustained willful ignorance... and how smart it isn't
    They may very well have been 'innocently' duped in 2016.
    This deep into his presidency all should know who and what he is so if you choose to still support him.. then that's on you.
    See Willful Ignorance and read slower this time
    So you failed math or are you trying to assert a false point
    http://www.electproject.org/2016g provides state by state 2016 results.. with the USA total votes by Voter Eligible Population (VEP) of 60.1%
    60.1% being well over majority.. one might even suggest that 60.1% = Vast majority but who cares if you intend to convince yourself otherwise
    See Willful Ignorance and read really slowly
    Ignoring several basic facts.
    A) Trump lost the popular vote at 46.2% vs. 48.1% for witch Hillary
    B) Trumps team was liberally supported by Russia's meddling and Julian Assange hacking the Witch's non-dusted emails
    Get that I hated her and wish that her corrupt ass would simply go away but these personal feelings have nothing to do with your "Trumpian" assertions.
    Hardly. All legally cast votes are legitimate. Casting ad hominem attacks gains you ... Willful Ignorance.. again.. sigh
    Nice sarcasm. Not a word of truth but you fan the flames of ignorance so so well. Why? What are you afraid of? Besides the truth.
    Umm 'The Shining" was a Kubrick masterpiece. Unrelated to anything but your own rant weakly attempting to cast aspersions at me as an educated elitist rather than confront the plain-as-day self serving actions of the Twit-in-Chief.
     
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  19. CapnTreee

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    Ah yes YOU can vote for Trump.. though you can't personally be bothered can you @TAFNAC ?
    However if YOU were to vote for Trump you'd be compelled to admit that
    A) you'd been duped; or
    B) you're a billionaire; or
    C) you're stupid

    Likewise YOU can abstain from voting provided that
    A) you shut your non-participating mouth for the next 4 years
    B) admit that you'd prefer to live elsewhere.. which we recall you did state in 2016.. before walking that fetid statement back as fast as Trump claiming that Mexico is going to pay for a border wall. Nice company to keep. Not.

    The "other" option? Paying attention. Putting an effort into looking past the surface lies to discern what is better for America.
    Or just don't participate at all while railing loudly from the cheap seats about wrongs you have zero intention of righting

    and the cycle of willful ignorance continues...
     
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    what a condescending piece of tripe that is
    oh the burden you must carry being as uber intelligent as you are
    you're stupid!
    did you learn that in fourth grade?
    surprised you didn't add racist
     
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