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Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by CapnTreee, Aug 12, 2016.

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  1. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

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    For the low income person it is worse.
    Before ACA I could pay 250 a month and had shitty coverage that would take me a year and a half just to get the procedure i needed done.
    But when I could get it done my out of pocket expense for the surgery was a very small percentage. I paid 20 bucks to see the doctor.
    Now I pay almost 600 bucks a month just for myself and in the past 3 years have been trying to get a surgery done but every specialist that books me for an appointment calls me back on the day of to let me know that their network no longer takes my insurance.
    I have $600 a month insurance that few doctors in Glendora will take. My visits to a specialist in network will still cost over 150 dollars a pop.

    Instead of all the thousands I have spent in monthly premiums over the years I could have taken 1k out and just paid cash for the surgery in any other country on the continent. Shit I think the most I would pay cash here in the US would be between about 3k if I just walked in without insurance.

    Of course when you compare it to the thousands a month a middle class person has to spend then numbers start becoming relative.
    But the working poor are not better off.
    The only real positive was the preexisting conditions bit.
    But we know that was just a wizards play to get the HMO's the win they really wanted, which was forcing the population to be required to buy insurance by penalty of law.
     
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    If you say that I espouse my religious views repeatedly why do you keep asking me what they are?
    You keep asking for my religious views but when I offer you shrink?
    You permit others to worship as they may? That's pretty magnanimous of you.
    My religion is not tolerant of things that are anathema to it.
    We are not gentlemen in that way.
    Tolerance is like Nice and its for little girls.
    Empathy, Compassion, Others-Centeredness, Kindness are for men.

    I have never been considered a pious person by anyone before, thanks!
    Pious simply means obedient. Someone who follows instructions. Who reads or hears a teaching and actually learns it and applies it. Someone studious who analyses the situation, its depth, and how it affects not just himself but more importantly the community around him. Essentially someone you can count to do a thorough job and not take shortcuts or half ass it or make a mistake in any way.
    I really wish that was me. Maybe when I was a kid. Maybe when someone was paying me a salary. Maybe when im doing something I love. Maybe when I have had no other choice.

    My faith demands skin off my back.
    Because my .2 cents is literally the least I can do.
    Even the poorest person has .2 cents.
    Everyone in the world has their .2 cents.
    That tells you how much its worth.
    Except when its all you got.
    Then your opinion is worth all the money in the world.
    And my religion values that currency more than any.
     
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    Thank you.
    I do it for the children.
    And for Irish.
     
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    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

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    The final option.
    Or solution.
    Potato/Batata
     
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    i'm tired of your megalomania
    you are the one trying to bully (can't really cause you're kinda old)
    in the last week you have directly called me a fool, stupid etc. because thats your character or lack thereof
    and I have something to learn from you almighty Capn?
    no thanks cocksucker and i'll say it straight to your face if i should see you again
    you're acting like some smug superior intellect that can teach all of us retards how to live right
    get over yourself you aren't that awesome
    still voting for Pocahontas fool?
    i can name ten pretty awesome things this president has done for the USA
    want to try doing that w any of the democrat hopefuls?
    what has your party done for the last two years to help this country?
    vote not to resuscitate aborted fetuses born alive?
    you really are turning into a special kind of idiot
    "anyone who dares impart knowledge" what a douchebag
     
  6. CapnTreee

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    They are illegal because the Dems and GOP agreed to make them illegal. No other reason.
    When the Irish or Germans or Italians or Scots or Englishmen, #Europeans, arrived on boats 100 or 150 years ago they were required to provide their names, where they were from, they were assigned a tax ID # and told to follow the laws of the land. Within hours. (also to speak English but that is a wormhole I'm dodging for the moment)
    They were then released within hours and were never an issue again.
    The blacks and Chinese were less fortunate as they arrived conscripted though that too is an irrelevant wormhole.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm a HUGE supporter of a border wall/fence/barrier so that they all must get processed.
    Like our great grandparents were.
    Then they're tracked by census and compelled to pay their share of our taxes.
    Like we do.
    No more BS 'gray economy' where BOTH major parties look the other way for decades
    While exploiting their cheap labor
    No more "Dreamers" where we provide them drivers licenses and social services outside the law until all of our hospitals break as so many have.

    The problem as I see it is the corruption in DC like I continue to explain
    No DC ethics means that BOTH sides mosey the issue down the road until when? Until "Dreamers" retire and are stiffed Medicare?
    Buddy I know you earnestly care for very special reasons. It was from some of our heartfelt conversations that I've molded my views.
    Permitting there to be no path whatsoever to citizenship is BS. As is claiming they "broke the law" when the law has been perverted so badly by current heartless thieves and cowards.
    I just read about a soldier who died for us in Afghanistan and now his spouse is getting deported years later leaving behind a 12 year old, who by birthright is a USA citizen and permitted to stay. With whom? WTF??
    What sort of shit is that? Died for the freedoms we ourselves enjoy but now your widow gets deported? I'm desperately trying NOT to blame the twit-in-chief but it's exactly his 'executive decree' making this shit happen.

    And everyone still argues about this?!?
     
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    No matter how corrupt or rigged the system is...and no mater how the cheap labor GOP and demographic changing Dems make crossing over tempting.... the individual makes a choice to come in. They are illegal because of their personal decision to break the laws that exist. Whether laws are fair is an entirely different argument.
     
  8. CapnTreee

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    Rube are you going to permit me to agree with you on this ever? You state so much that I emphatically agree with.
    Big Insurance and Big Pharma were permitted to fuck up the ACA at the 11th hour at the insistence of the GOP who would not back it at all unless they removed the biggest feature that American's cared about which was the Single Payer option. This would have kept rates lower due to the massively larger pool available. Of course the profits of the aforementioned Big industry lobbyists were more important...and being able to blame Obama for their own wretched heartlessness.
    So now lets repeal all of ACA where some 30M+ lose all healthcare coverage.. so that "IF" we reelect this twit then and only then he'll tell us his better plans might be. Riiiiiiiight.

    Sigh.
     
  9. CapnTreee

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    So.. send your sweetheart packing back across the border then.
    Or come up with some better way of solving this problem.

    It's been damn quiet every time I suggest such a thing.
    Tell her you'll visit when vacation allows.
     
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  10. CapnTreee

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    I do not bring up Organized Religion, yet when others do I do not avoid sharing my views.
    You offer "read books from the 1800's" as if that were forthright.
    You quote "Canticles of Solomon" and then shrink while claiming that I do??
    I personally prefer you keep your religion to yourself as it rarely aids the conversation when used in vague parables.
    You calling out @Finski ? You about to claim to be a follower of the "religion of peace"??
    I thought not. So keep it to yourself.
    Or don't. But if you spout scriptures then expect to be called on the same. Rather like other "men's" rules.
    Or insult me for "tolerance" while showing none yourself. Fuck You if you need it stated that way.
    Most OR espouse tolerance in the same breath as empathy.. other than the 'religion of peace' fools.
    Per Google:
    ho·li·er-than-thou
    /ˌhōlēərT͟HənˈT͟Hou/
    adjective
    1. characterized by an attitude of moral superiority.
      "they had quite a critical, holier-than-thou approach"
      synonyms: sanctimonious, self-righteous, complacent, smug, self-satisfied, priggish, pious, pietistic,
    Do you mind if we use actual word definitions rather than twisted Rube definitions? We'll get farther. Unless your goal is not to do so.
     
  11. CapnTreee

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    you steadfastly echo thoughts to your own detriment. I know that you're smarter but you refuse to lift a finger to prove it
    maybe admit that you're not a billionaire and only a millionaire and adore Trump's tax laws and dismantling of healthcare because you're mean spirited. I don't care. You choose to support him even knowing he's a liar, a thief and and morally unethical being.
    So maybe admit that you're a racist? or whatever serves you.
    or perhaps provide a better thought out answer to tough questions
    or.. or start calling names again, like bully's do
    I'll wait.. this should be interesting
    A) Not my party if you'd been paying ANY attention
    B) the Democrats have been locked out of all branches of gubberment by whom? Yeah lying Trump's rules changing GOP thieves led by McConnell. Did you forget that part? Sorry rhetorical question.. as the answer was provided in the question
    Name calling again.. and again ignoring that your hostility bears no answers merely more attacks.
    I provide unwelcome data, you reply with personal attacks
    I guess you learned from the liar in chief to double down when shown to be wrong.
    So you buhlieve that windmills cause cancer too ehh? LOL

    You are right in that I 'could' have not called lying Trump lovers "stupid".
    Of course you 'could' have admitted that he's continually a racist sexist liar
    Like that was going to happen
     
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    oh now i'm mean spirited lol
    a mutual friend actually called and asked me if i saw your unhinged fb post but of course i didn't since i gave up following you a long time ago
    you've provided no facts whatsoever and continue to call him a racist sexist liar like that is so damning
    that defines 90% of congress especially democrats
    you've come undone and gone completely unhinged
    i actually feel sorry for you
     
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    "All I know is that I know nothing"
    -------some Greek guy
     
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    Shultz was Greek?

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    Yeah.. as if.
     
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    Excellent.
     
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    Evidently the Jews have not learned a thing from the Catholics
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    The families of eight young children have filed suit against a prominent Washington, D.C., synagogue and one of its leaders, alleging they ignored warnings that a teacher at the congregation's preschool was sexually abusing the children for more than two years.

    The families, who are filing the suit anonymously, to protect the children's identities, say the alleged abuse occurred at Washington Hebrew Congregation's Early Childhood Center, a Reform Jewish synagogue founded in the 1850s.
    The lawsuit names Jordan Silverman, a teacher at Washington Hebrew Congregation's preschool, as the abuser. Silverman, who was not named as a defendant in the lawsuit, has not been charged with any crimes and denies the allegations in the lawsuit.


    Now let's see if this story gets buried too or if they launch a brimstone parade about it
     
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    Shine is what people who feel they are enlightened do. From the beginning of time until the end. The beautiful golden glittery smooth silky slimey types.
    It creates fantasy web as reality built upon a maze of lies = wizardry/maya/magic/illusion
    Shining is in the history and legend of every culture.
    It is the process which veils our eyes.
    Masterpieces are to be studied and contemplated.

    Sarcasm is a cheap mans shot. What can I say... I try to stay away from it but im a sinner man and thats one i struggle with at certain times. Thank God that my religion knows all about how the struggle is real.

    Votes are not legitimate. Hillary just won. I am guessing you dont like the Electoral College.
    I have never met anyone who likes the EC. Only politicians on TV would say they like the EC.
    I bet if there was something on the ballot about abolishing the EC that would change because of politics.
    But if you polled people now the answer would clearly be to abolish.
    Of course in the real world we know that cannot happen.
    Left and Right two sides of a coin. Pick your poison.
    You have to pick.
    You have to play the game when the Peace Rune comes to you.
    You can't abstain, right ?
    Abstaining is an instakill. You take the L.
    At least if you pick you played the game, you made a choice, you mattered.
    Maybe... but at least there is a maybe, at least there is hope.
    That is a religion Cap.
    Its weak but it exists.
    It is like that of Two-Face, the Joker, Anton Chigurh and Death at the chessboard.
    There is no way out in that religion. It's hard core.
    It leaves no room for a pardon, for a second chance, for salvation.

    Just for shits and giggles you know how they make a king?
    Paper Tiger challengers.
    By using the 'third party' stuff to suck off votes from the lesser desired candidate.
    In October with a surprise.
    The EC.
    And many others you should remember.
    If all that fails well there's always the peace option like JFK.

    What are my "Trumpian assertions" Im not on here on the rah rah. You got me confused.
    Check this out though. Russia did manipulate in the election and helped Trump win.
    I agree with you and the liberals who push this.
    Of course we do that kind of stuff too.
    We do it best probably. So what?
    I have no problem with the hypocrisy of the US complaining that the Russians are spying.
    The Russians are the other team. Fuck the other team.
    But when the Warriors start winning all the other teams try to play the gay area way.
    Your vote goes through your states delegate and super delegate system and then if its still worth a damn it goes into the EC where it can be further manipulated.
    Then that guy gets to put elders into the politburo for life as well as getting to put a slew of appointed people in positions of immense control. Folks no one voted for representing the interests of the class of Lords/Elites.
    Your vote is put into a system where it gets manipulated to shreds and other large groups of people you will never see in your life elect themselves into a group that then signs off on who will be the president.
    That power is not just gonna go into your grubby little hands Cap. That power is not for us to have.
    The government is a cult. Every one of them. We have to put up with that cult. That is tolerance.
    Every politician that goes in knows it or will quickly find it out.
    Governments are always corrupt. Politicians go into it to get money for nothing and chicks for free.
    Just like they do in Russia.

    As usual you have no idea who you are talking to because your arguments are your inner monologue and not about me.
    I did not vote for Trump remember. I did not vote.
    I could not vote for Hillary obviously.
    An 'alternative' candidate is not an alternative when all he does is ensure a siphoning away of potential votes from the candidate propped up to lose.
    The president is who the president is.
    There is only one party.
    And its the peoples party comrade Cap.
    You don't want anything to do with it.
    They have a left and a right and a center too.
    The center always holds.
    Remember Bukharin to the right, Trotsky to the left and Stalin dead center consolidated both.
    It's a bloodsport.
    Powers and principalities.
    Way above our grade.
    Don't eat the free cheese.
    Its poison to the soul.
     
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    I like the EC.
    It dilutes individual votes, and it give the minority power. It's an attempt at trying to allow democracy and blunting mob rule.
    People don't like it because it's not "democratic" (little d). That's why I like it. It makes it really hard for a the majority to do stuff majorities like to do.
    That's why certain people hate it.

    I'd rather the government didn't really have the power to do anything dangerous.
    But as a second option, making it hard for people to wield the governments power to do dangerous things is a good try.
     
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    Oxygen is what corrodes the iron in blood that makes blood based creatures who can't exist without breathing eating or drinking oxygen into mortal men.
    God gives and God takes away.

    We are not a democracy yet that is what we say we are when we try to spread it to our neighbors. That is what we call ourselves on TV.
    Why the veil?
    Or maybe the designs of the founders of the first order have already been altered so much that this is not the republic you read about in your civic books.
    Does calling the empire a first order democracy make it so that we can pretend we are not the empire when we drop our ships on someones desert?

    The EC is never going to be removed because the people are not trusted with that kind of immense power.
    It would be retarded to give us that power.
    That kind of power cannot be given.
    It has to be seized for it to mean anything.
     

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