FEDIT POLITICS Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by CapnTreee, Aug 12, 2016.

  1. blazer5

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    I can't figure out how to post pics from my phone.. but I picked up an infinity Q60 Red Sport. Twin Turbo, 400 hp and kicks ass.

    Lots of car for a pretty damn good price.. fully loaded at 63K.. picked it up for 7k under MSRP.. damn good deal and under invoice..

    Was working a deal for a Porsche Panamera or Macaan but at the end of the day.. the infinity had everything I wanted for a better price..

    3rd infinity so it was a likely homecoming anyway...

    Silver with carbon fiber package and red/ black interior..

    It's a FUCKING BEAST!

    dang i feel like BZ not knowing how to post them..

    Help!
     
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  2. blazer5

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    How do I post pics..
     
  3. BlueMouse

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    I agree with you on the point that tax laws shouldn't be used to manipulate the economy or behavior. There are probably grey areas within that definition where we probably disagree, but the basic concept we agree on. A deduction on home loan interest? I say no. Extra cigarette taxes? I also say no.

    I don't mind a simpler tax code. A 40% tax bracket is ridiculous. My beliefs are more socialist though, so a progressive tax system (as opposed to flat tax) still makes more sense to me. Trump's proposal lowers taxes across the board, so I assume the real killer benefit in his plan is that he will reduce spending. If spending is reduced, he could also just propose to lower taxes at the same rate across the board. He's not proposing that, so what he is proposing is essentially a tax break for the rich. You say you support this out of fairness. I'm not totally against a system that is more fair, but addressing earned income out of "fairness" without addressing passive income is a farce. So I do not support Trump's plan unless it includes additional tax reform. That's all I'm saying. The current inequality in the tax code does not favor the poor, so more tax breaks for the rich do not equate to more equality.
     
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    define rich
     
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    The definition is universal. Anyone making more than me.
     
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    so all of us then? :duck:
     
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    'cept me...
     
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    I'm broke as fedit, yo.
     
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    No.
    No deductions.
    And simplification overall.

    In truth im not for any taxes at all.
    But thats the world yall live in. So kinda complaining about it is moot.
    I dont live in that world. I guess thats all i should say about this subject.
    Daniel was not afraid of the lion in the den, but he also didnt poke the lion with a stick.
    And in this coliseum we are the entertainment and the lions wear black robes.
     
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    Rich is when you don't care what other people have, don't want what others have, and are fat and happy with what you got.
     
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    then what's wealthy?
     
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    With you there.
    Agorism is how you topple the lion...gotta starve the beast, not fight him.
     
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    So those are the people that are always not paying their "fair" share?
     
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    Wealthy is when you care about what other people dont have, want to help those that dont have what you have, and share your fat and happiness with your fellow man.
     
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    The agora is an old system.
    Like the forum and the synagogue.
    Today we have the church potluck.

    None of these political ideas mean jack shit Craig. They will never actually be the system of governance.
    Powers and Principalities have ruled the world from day 1. You can't fight them directly. You cant even EVER hope to destroy them.
    They are undying death. You cant kill something that is already dead yet animated.
    This zombie corpse cannot be decapitated.
    All you can do is tie it up. Bundle the dead together temporarily before they are finally tossed away into the abyss,
    That is all you and I can do.
    In order to live free of their death.
    Because you cant live in death.
    You can exist, you can be animate.
    But you cant live.

    I know sometimes people dont like it when i speak like this, but certain subjects are like bulls in a china shop.
    You cant take them on directly but have to be delicate.
     
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    I disagree. People have lived freely without government interference for millennia in various rural pockets.
    It's just now that we're getting really good at governing and it's in every facet of everyone's life. Definitely here, but pretty much wordwide.

    But it doesn't have to be that way, and it doesn't have to be that way forever.
    Government is inherently both immoral and inefficient. It will be obsolete one day. Probably not in either of our lifetimes, but someday people will live freely again.
     
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    A bright path, indeed...
    Just as long as it's before the sun supernovas...a must.
     
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    In rural pockets is the key term.
    In cities the government always wins.
    Towns/Cities are for citizens.
    Suburbs/Villages for villains.
    But the paisan/pagan is the man of the land.
    Which is something that church/city people dont get about the pagans.
    The real pagans mind you, not neopagans in love with vikings or celtic what nots.
    Real pagans are the salt of the earth people who live rural pastoral lands.
    The rough sometimes uncouth but simple rustic people.
    True real pagans compose the true church.
    Again, what the fake pagans and the fake church dont understand.
    They call them hick's, hillbilly's, and rube's.
    But they are the patriots.
    They defend Pa's honor while the rest cower under Ma's dress.
    Because they have been fooled into thinking that the land belongs to Ma.
    When everyone who knows knows that a true Pa gives Ma the belt.
    But that it's Pa's belt she uses.
    While the weak man forgets this and believes it's Ma's belt.
    And that Pa' is a mandilon.
    Thats because they are weak coward mandilones who are lead around, controlled, and ruled by their wives.
    And so their world view becomes like what they are.
    Which is why they become politically correct nancy boy socialists.
     
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    I've rethought my stance on tax reduction that eliminates the 40% federal tax bracket. I'm in support of removing it whether or not passive income tax is addressed. The main reason being that the "rich" people hitting these 40% tax brackets are not necessarily the same "rich" people exploiting passive income tax. In fact, in many cases they are not the same people at all. Your simple post made me think about this - not that I didn't have a clear idea of what rich is, but because I was clumping two categories together.

    When I say rich and poor I use them as general terms, but it's a scale. I don't say it with an absolute position that all people are one or the other. My biggest problem is that passive and earned income are treated different. That is not fair. Besides being not fair, it also leaves the system open to legal tax evasion simply by redefining your income for those who can. Under the current tax laws if Mark Walters and Clayton Kershaw make the same amount of money from the Dodgers this year, Kershaw would likely owe more than 2x the tax on his money - and that's not fair.
     
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