FEDIT POLITICS Thread

No doubt. He practiced that for a few days so he wouldn't be embarrassed. Strike.
The Kenyan balked. Never came to a stop.

 

Protesters piss me off.

Political Correctness is not a synonym for “etiquette” “kindness” or “respect”. It’s a genius system of lying, disguised as being morally just. It’s about patronizing groups of people at the expense of reason and logic. Often, it compromises the safety and rights of other people. Political correctness represses free speech. Or, in the case of today’s America, limits free speech to those who share the same far-left ideology. College campuses, Hollywood, and the media have such a monopoly, that anyone who expresses a different viewpoint is either vilified, or ignored completely. Yet, ironically, they’re the ones claiming to be oppressed.

Some are celebrating Santa Ana becoming a sanctuary city because it makes illegal immigrants feel better. Immigrants who are mostly wonderful people, but entered the country illegally (the law is the law, man. Sorry). And unfortunately, SOME (obviously not the majority) of them decided to commit heinous crimes. Yet Santa Ana wants to protect those criminals from deportation or incarceration. Putting YOUR safety in danger. Your children. Your neighborhoods. Hispanic children are living in gang infested neighborhoods with terrible education. Why wouldn’t Hispanic communities be supportive of removing those who don’t abide by the laws of our land? So their children can truly experience the greatness of America...

The mayor of Santa Ana and his constituents are taking tax payer and federal money to commit civil disobedience (ignoring the law and constitution). And we live in a society, apparently, that celebrates this. It’s wrong. All while they have homeless citizens in need of help.

I’m sympathetic towards immigrants who were brought here illegally as children. Because those are my classmates, co-workers, friends, and spouse. I’m hopeful this new administration will find a way to absorb those who had no choice in the matter, and have done good in America. I truly believe they will. Trump’s initial comment early on in his campaign was very ignorant, but since then, all I’ve heard is a very reasonable solution: Deport illegal immigrants who’ve committed crimes, secure the border, and then later decide on the remaining illegal immigrants who are otherwise law abiding contributors to our communities. That’s beyond fair.

If I overstayed a visa or came into Mexico illegally, they would throw me in jail, take my property, and bus me back. Yet the United States is the intolerant one? No. We have laws. We have a constitution. We have the right to safety. That’s not racism, “xenophobia” or any other name thrown at those who refuse to be chained down by political correctness.

We should all love and respect each other. Don’t confuse that with political correctness. Leave that to crooked (hey, I used a Trump-ism. Dang it.) politicians. Sometimes the truth is uncomfortable. Don't confuse it with hate.

I respect the opinions of reasonable people, both liberal and conservative. But it's so lopsided in one direction these days. I'm tired of outlets like CNN and Univision classifying people with a reasonable alternative outlook as heartless, racists, xneophobs, etc. It's not true. These are people I love and a country I love. I take it seriously. I don't want to see people deported. I didn't create the situation we are in.

 

some twit on fb started to hassle me about the Trump vote being uneducated and white so i started to return the favor
at one point she said that "this is my country and i love it so i have to protest him and he is not my president"
therein lies the problem
liberals tend to think only their opinion matters and will not only protest but riot and loot
i respect your opinion if you have an ability to comprehend not everyone has yours
the man was voted in to office
its time to man up and rally around the country
enough w the name calling because it kills the discussion
oh and after she was calling me ignorant and out of touch i called her snowflake
you should have seen the rally around her by her offended friends
and i think moonbeam made california a sanctuary state
but something tells me all that bs is coming to an end

 

Interesting take, Rube.

 

There are many other rumors about her ,too.
Many.
"Women should be obscene and not heard."
-------------- John Lennon

 

On Saturday I went to Los Angeles for Women's March L.A... and it was a pretty amazing thing to see and be a part of. Peaceful protest is a cornerstone of our democracy, and we just witnessed one of the largest demonstrations in our country's history. Personally, I found it inspiring. More than a protest, it was a call to action with emphasis on concrete things that people can do to have a real affect. The events across the country and world received huge media coverage, have already caused reaction from elected officials, and have inspired many people at the protests and watching at home to become more involved.

For those interested in "resisting" the Trump agenda (which I suppose could even include those who reluctantly voted for him), indivisibleguide.com is one of the many places you can start. Follow local groups, and if nothing else plan to vote in the next mid-term election. For Trump supporters, or even just Republicans who are happy to have a super-majority in Washington, get to it as well. If Saturday was any indication, the super-majority for Republicans will only last 2 years.

I will step off my soapbox now :soapbox:, and just talk about the experience.

I got up early Saturday morning, my small group drove from Orange County up to Union Station, and hopped on the redline to Pershing Square. We got there by 7am and things were still relatively quiet with a few hundred people. We were smack dab in the middle of Pershing Square for the speeches scheduled to start at 9am, but instead at 9am the fire marshall said there were too many people in the park and the speeches were moved out to Hill Street. As we moved out to the street I was starting to realize just how big the crowd was that had formed over the past 2 hours - shoulder to shoulder by now. Speeches went from 9-10 with major focus on the issues of pro-choice, education, healthcare, and gay rights. Then the march to City Hall began. We walked about 100 feet in that direction and the crowd stopped... we were there. In reality we were almost a mile away from City Hall, but that's how big the crowd was at this point. After an hour wait the crowd began moving again (as I guess people were starting to move out of the City Hall area making room for new people?). As we crossed 5th street, 4th street, etc... we could see up and down the cross streets and those streets were jam packed as well, and we could see people packed on Broadway and Grand too.

We reached Hill and 1st around 1pm, still a couple blocks from City Hall we had a view of the action off in the distance below. We decided to get food at this point. We headed down to the subway but the crowd waiting for the subway was so big I couldn't even see the platform, so instead we walked back to Union Station and over to Philippes. The line for Philippes was around the building, so we ventured into China Town and found a quaint little Thai place (also full, but no line) for a snack before finally heading out.

Before the event I heard they were expecting 100k people to show, but later estimates have the numbers between 500k-750k. I've never won a jelly bean counting contest, but I'd say the numbers had to be in the 500k plus range, easy. All the people we saw and met were positive, friendly, and shared similar political interests and values. Lots of funny signs and posters. LAPD reported zero arrests and I personally saw no instances of physical aggression, so very cool to see.

 

Awesome. Proud of you and everyone else who marched and stood up for what they believe. Trump's opening approval rating wouldn't even win the batting title, so it's probably fair to say those who marched represent the vast majority.

I worked Saturday night so I couldn't attend the one in NYC, but I went Thursday night to the protest at Central Park in NY. Pretty great stuff, wish I could've made the big one though. Also hope this level of enthusiasm doesn't wain over the next two or four years. I recommend everyone who hasn't already sign up here

http://swingleft.org/

To ensure their involvement in the next primary. Also sign up for the link BM posted above. I plan on volunteering, but also happen to live in an area where there's not a red district in sight. I recommend it strongly to those of you in areas of the country where seats are often up for grabs.

Glad you had a positive experience though BM, as someone funnier than myself said on Twitter, it's probably a bad sign when twice as many people attend the "Fuck You" parade than the actual one.

 

That's why we've had so much rain? All the lib tears?

Good for them. Almost none of my views align with the left, but if BM and VRP are in, I'll at least read up on it.

 

BM,

Was everyone there on the same page? To me, a peaceful march is far easier when it excludes anyone with an opposing view. I’ve heard (but haven’t really checked up on it) that there are large numbers of Pro-life woman who’ve been bullied into not attending these marches. Or being delegitimized by the majority.

 

Very cool to hear you are involved. I think you hit the nail on the head by saying "Also hope this level of enthusiasm doesn't wain over the next two or four years." In the end, a day of protesting is meaningless without follow-up. Not just in 2 years, 4 years, but forever and locally - the challenge is always to keep active. Personally, I have never voted in a mid-term election, but from here on out I will. I live in a red district with an unapologetic Trump supporter as my representative.





We share values on this, but don't think this means we are friends.

 

Everyone I saw was (at least vocally) on the same page. I did not see anyone shouting pro-life messages, and I don't know exactly how that would have been received in the crowd but I imagine it would have been received with a lot of resistance.

FWIW, pro-choice was by far the strongest message being promoted. As a Women's March, pro-choice/pro-life is the one issue that affects women in a much different way than men - all other issues like education, healthcare, gay rights are much more gender neutral.

 

With such a strong showing and all that estrogen flowing and vagina costumes out I wonder if Vince and Owen will sequel with Parade Crashers? Hell, even a basement dweller could have managed to get lucky out there, but then again, maybe not.

 

We had rain on Friday for the inauguration, and no rain on Saturday for the March - both in LA and in DC. You joke about lib tears, but I think this is indisputable evidence that god is anti-conservative

For real though, I appreciate the respectful response even though I know we don't share a lot of the same political views. I don't know if you are conservative/Republican as much as you are anti-lib, but for those who support the Republican platform I imagine there is some frustration with Trump who will cause a lot of pushback against the party as a whole.