DODGERS The ongoing OWNERSHIP Thread

doyerfan · Mar 28, 2012

bestlakersfan said: ↑

Hamels, Hamilton and Phillips in the off-season would be a coup!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You should start working on your Phillips impersonation since he's similar to O-Dawg

TuborgP · Mar 28, 2012

We have some very talented young arms and unless we trade them we aren't going to block them. Delerosa and Evan E are ready and talented and cheap. We need offense and unless Loney goes big time Votto could be targeted in multiple ways. Hamilton has relapse issues so who knows there. Hamels is a real possibility and with Kastens agent connections I bet his phone will be ringing off the hook soon.

BlueMouse · Mar 28, 2012

Doughty8 said: ↑

He has a past with Stan Kasten so don't jump the gun besides I don't think an upheaval like this at the beginning of a season other than a positive one like Magic's ownership is necessarily a good thing overall. I know the board is clamouring for a GM change but I don't personally think it is going to happen. It's not as if Magic is coming into a dire situation where a wholesale change is necessitated, there are bright spots on that field for years to come (Kersh, Kemp, Guerra, Jansen et al)
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I realize it is entirely possible Colletti could stay, at least for a while, but what past does he have with Kasten?

IBleedBlue15 · Mar 28, 2012

I could see us trading some of that pitching depth we have for a bat (Votto) if we sign Hamels and/or Cain.

doyerfan · Mar 28, 2012

Mark Walter (our money man): "I'm a baseball fan, but I'm not qualified to make baseball decisions, and I don't want to pretend to be."

That's great, really.

TuborgP · Mar 28, 2012

http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/3/28/2908983/dodgers-sale-stan-kasten-new-owners

It's funny, how everybody's talking about Magic Johnson while essentially ignoring the money (Guggenheim Partners) and the brains (Stan Kasten) behind the operation.
Which isn't to suggest that Magic's not a sharp guy. He is. But he's never run a major professional sports franchise, while Kasten's run a bunch of them, generally quite well. From Ken Rosenthal:

"If they have Stan Kasten in their group, who else would run their team?" asked Kasten’s friend and former associate, Braves president John Schuerholz.
"You’ve got one of the most successful guys in our business, in professional sport."
--snip--
"If you have good knowledge, good experience, good expertise and money? I’ve always said that the combination (makes) for a successful franchise."
Hello, Kasten.
He was named general manager of the NBA’s Atlanta Hawks at 27. He is the only NBA executive to win back-to-back Executive of the Year awards. At one point, he was team president of three professional sports franchises — the Braves, Hawks and the NHL’s Atlanta Thrashers — plus chairman of the Philips Arena in Atlanta.
The Braves were successful in part because Kasten delegated most baseball decisions in Schuerholz. With the Dodgers, one of Kasten’s first major decisions will be whether to retain GM Ned Colletti. Kasten won’t necessarily bring in his own man — he promoted Mike Rizzo to Nationals GM rather than look outside the organization. Then again, Kasten also made sure to hire statistical analysts to complement Rizzo’s scouting background.
And then there's Jayson Werth. Which isn't fair, I know. Just worth remembering that even good organizations do things that make you wonder.
Kasten's said positive things about the Dodgers' front office, but my guess is that Colletti's going to be on a fairly short leash. Still, while it's fashionable to castigate Colletti, since he became GM in 2005 the Dodgers own the third-best winning percentage in the National League, and for much of his tenure he's been saddled with dysfunctional ownership. So unless Kasten's already got someone else in mind for the job, there's probably good reason to see what Colletti can do with a little support from his bosses.[/QUOTE]

Food for thought from Rosenthal
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bestlakersfan · Mar 28, 2012

doyerfan said: ↑

Mark Walter (our money man): "I'm a baseball fan, but I'm not qualified to make baseball decisions, and I don't want to pretend to be."

That's great, really.
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AWESOME!

Mark, just keep that wallet open and get us a WS Championship we deserve!

MZA · Mar 28, 2012

TuborgP said: ↑

We have some very talented young arms and unless we trade them we aren't going to block them. Delerosa and Evan E are ready and talented and cheap. We need offense and unless Loney goes big time Votto could be targeted in multiple ways. Hamilton has relapse issues so who knows there. Hamels is a real possibility and with Kastens agent connections I bet his phone will be ringing off the hook soon.
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Yeah, Hamilton is a big question. i doubt he'd come to the big lights of LA. Even with his relapses he takes his issue with drugs and alcohol seriously, he may not want to come to LA.

TuborgP · Mar 28, 2012

http://www.nola.com/newsflash/index...g-smiles-now/e97e0d9be78f06fdfe2ff0bda237dea1

"When you look at what he's been able to accomplish, you wonder how one person could do it all," Dodgers General Manager Ned Colletti said.
Colletti said he exchanged a few emails with Kasten on Tuesday night. They had dinner together a couple of weeks ago.
"When you think about Stan, when you think about Magic, you think of guys that have won a lot," Colletti said.
Asked how the Dodgers could do that, Colletti pointed to the acquisition of amateur players.
"I think, generally speaking, we need to upgrade our presence in Latin America from a signing standpoint," Colletti said.
Kasten's teams in Atlanta and Washington invested heavily in player development.
High-powered agent Scott Boras, who hasn't had many players sign with the Dodgers in the last few years, said stable ownership should result in the addition of better players.
While applauding Colletti for his efforts to sign Prince Fielder, Boras said negotiations were hindered by the instability upstairs.
"When a general manager has hesitations that are not related to baseball, it makes both of our jobs very difficult and different," Boras said.
Colletti didn't know if the new ownership group was willing to add to the team's payroll at the July 31 trade deadline. Gwynn said he was hopeful.
"You would think there's more flexibility for Ned to do his magic," Gwynn said.
Changes in ownership are often followed by widespread changes in personnel. Colletti said he would tell his staffers to focus on their immediate tasks instead of worrying about their futures.
Colletti said he would do the same. "I not only say it, but I live it," he said.
Of the instability of the last year, Colletti remarked, "There's no question the last year or so has been different and has had its own set of challenges."
Colletti was surprised by how quickly the deal came together.
"I'm glad that we're about to move on," Colletti said.
Similar thoughts were shared by others.
"At least we know who owns the team," Lasorda said.
Former player Steve Garvey, who assembled his own group to buy the team, said he was looking forward to the new era of Dodgers baseball.
"This wonderful and historic franchise should not have been in this situation," Garvey said. "But you move forward. There's no reason to look in the rearview mirror."
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TuborgP · Mar 28, 2012

MZA said: ↑

Yeah, Hamilton is a big question. i doubt he'd come to the big lights of LA. Even with his relapses he takes his issue with drugs and alcohol seriously, he may not want to come to LA.
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Great point, to much temptation!

TuborgP · Mar 28, 2012

All of the discussion and all of the possibilities are just freaking exciting. Nothing to disagree about but lot of paths to get excited about!

GoatMilk · Mar 28, 2012

TuborgP said: ↑

http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/3/28/2908983/dodgers-sale-stan-kasten-new-owners
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Colletti got money from Frank though. he's an awful GM

TuborgP · Mar 28, 2012

GoatMilk said: ↑

Colletti got money from Frank though. he's an awful GM
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Yeah he got the money for Jones and Schmidt and while not a lot he got money for Coffey who is has a 9.0 era right now while others with a 0.00 era got let go.

GoatMilk · Mar 28, 2012

what was he doing giving Juan Rivera 4M?
no other team gives him more than 1M

dodgers · Mar 28, 2012

TuborgP said: ↑

Yeah he got the money for Jones and Schmidt and while not a lot he got money for Coffey who is has a 9.0 era right now while others with a 0.00 era got let go.
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Are you really referencing spring training stats?

TuborgP · Mar 28, 2012

bcransom said: ↑

Are you really referencing spring training stats?
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Yes as of todays game

TuborgP · Mar 28, 2012

They let Grabow go and he had a 0.00 era and as he wondered what more could he have done?

dodgers · Mar 28, 2012

Not be a shitty pitcher for his entire long career

VRP · Mar 28, 2012

bcransom said: ↑

Not be a shitty pitcher for his entire long career
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That probably would have done it

TuborgP · Mar 28, 2012

bcransom said: ↑

Not be a shitty pitcher for his entire long career
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So Coffy was a good signing and why did Ned bother with Grabow if he was shitty and never had a chance?

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