DODGERS The URIBE/CALLASPO Trade Thread

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  1. Chiefdodgerslkrs24

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    Don't think Jaime is on a 40 man, so just 3 spots would need clearing. Uribe traded creates one on both, hoping for a DFA of Santos (accompanied by Baez being activated), then one more move.
     
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    Did I miss something? When did Juan Uribe become good?

    We are talking about the Juan Uribe OPSing .596 and playing average defense (no one's been a bigger fan of Uribe's D in the past, but from what I've seen this year he looks average at best), and let's not forget it's the same guy who after signing a 3-year deal with us got fat and played like complete shit for 2 years. No one has been talking about signing Uribe to an extension. No one objected to Seager playing 3B in the minors because "that's Juan's position". For the most part I only see objections when Uribe is even in the lineup.

    The only thing more peculiar than Callaspo being involved in the trade (seriously, what is our plan with this guy?), is the negative reaction to losing Juan Uribe (and Withrow for that matter).

    I'm interested to see how this trade shakes out.
     
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    and we remained in 1st place during those instances. the bullpen was a success during Kenley's time away..Friedman put that together.
     
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    I think Callaspo pretty much takes over Uribes bench spot until Olivera is ready. Callaspo can play 2B and if you're a bench guy, even if Callaspo is a worse hitter, much better to actually play multiple positions.
     
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    Hahaha what spot?

    have i missed something or is Callaspo NOT being DFA'd by the Dodgers anymore?

    they have Kike who can play virtually every position..he can back up Turner/Guerrero at 3B.
     
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    uhh, the last two years? Gold glove caliber D combined with two of his best hitting seasons made him a 4 win player (according Baseball reference) each of the last two season. That isn't good?
     
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    we have Kike and Van Slyke, to go with the back up Catcher. Callaspo isn't going anywhere for now.
     
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    we'll see. every report i've seen has Callaspo getting DFA'd. it's not like they can't bring up Heisey and/or Barney.
     
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    It'd have to be the IF.
     
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    i think BM is pointing to the fact that Uribe is now 36 years old, has sucked for much of this year, and is unlikely to be a starter if he continues his career after this year. Uribe's also not a fit as a defensive replacement late in games as he'd be an old guy coming off the bench that's expected to jump right into action in the field..that's not ideal.
     
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    well, it can be. Barney's already been up. i'm just sayin..i'm pretty sure i saw multiple reports that had Callaspo getting DFA'd by the LAD in this thing.
     
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    I kinda expected a negative reaction to losing Uribe, but only because of his clubhouse presence and the fact that everybody likes him..

    ..but to see people having negative reactions about the actual return for Uribe is 1 part ridiculous and 1 part peculiar ( agreed ). I blame the Nerds for the unfair reaction..the standards they've set with their other trades isn't helping here. I mean I've seen people laugh all season about the prospects of some team actually agreeing to take Uribe from us and now this? It's a gotdamn miracle in my book.
     
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    But again, no one has been pushing for him to be in the starting lineup. If he truly is a 4-win player, he should be an everyday starter. But literally no one has said Uribe should be an everyday starter, and now that he's been traded he's amazing? The reactions just don't add up to me.
     
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    in reality, you are what your results say you are and Juan Uribe basically became " Juan Rojas " this year.

    the last 2 years, in fact, are big reasons why DBB stayed with Uribe for as long as he did this season..and at the end of the day Uribe couldn't hold off younger guys that were better options.

    hell, our FO didn't look at Uribe's last 2 years and say, " weeeelll, he looks good..let's NOT go out and add Hector Olivera. let's re-sign Uribe..he can keep it up. " nope. they said, " old man who's likely to come down to Earth this year..the free agent market for 3B looks weak in 2016..let's sign Olivera. " how do you get a " great return " for somebody who's already been replaced?
     
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    Uribe, when he was asked what he would miss about playing for the Dodgers, got choked up, pointed toward the team's clubhouse -- where his teammates were getting dressed after an 8-0 win over the Braves -- excused himself and walked away.

    "I respect their decision," Uribe said through an interpreter. "One never knows what's going to happen. If I play for another team, then I play for another team. I can't control what happens. You have to take things as they come. It's happened to me before. One day you're here, one day you're not. Thank God there are other teams that are interested in me."

    Uribe and his teammates had developed a strong bond during their four-plus seasons together, particularly Adrian Gonzalezand Yasiel Puig. One time when Uribe was victimized by a hidden-ball trick, Gonzalez went over to his locker and presented him with a shoe taped to a base, with a baseball inside the shoe.

    "I'm not going to be able to charge room service to his room anymore,'' Gonzalez joked. "We had a little back-and-forth going on there. He's been great. Everybody here loves him. He'll definitely be missed, that's for sure.''

    Under the collective bargaining agreement, Callaspo had the right to refuse a trade until June 15 because he signed with the Braves as a free agent last offseason. Callaspo had previously told reporters he rejected the trade because he liked his teammates and wanted to finish the season in Atlanta.

    Justin Turner and Alex Guerrero allowed them to push ahead of Uribe on the Dodgers' depth chart at third base. In addition, Cuban defector Hector Olivera is working out at the team's facility in Arizona and could join the mix at the position as soon as a month from now.

    "He never fell from grace. Juan has never done anything wrong," Dodgers manager Don Mattingly said. "In professional sports, the guy that performs is the one who plays for the most part."
     
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    I haven't seen one.
     
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    Well, Turner, last year, was also a 4 win player. Outplaying him this year, and that is why he is playing a lot now, no room for Uribe, he and Withrow combined should be worth more than that.
     
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    11:44am:
    Callaspo has rejected the deal, as is his right, per Rosenthal (Twitter link). For those unsure of why Callaspo may have declined the move, it’s not clear that he would ever have had a chance to suit up for the Dodgers: Los Angeles may well have intended simply to take on Callaspo’s salary and then release him as part of the broader arrangement.



    Uribe's not just being outplayed..Uribe has sucked and is old. that does not help his value.
     
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    So the deal is dead?
     
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    No, that's the first attempt at the deal's result. I'm pretty sure anyway.
    This was all before Callaspo was "paid off" to OK it all the second time.
    I guess maybe Friedman is from Cook Co., IL.
    That's how they make deals there.
     
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