NEWS/RUMORS/AROUND MLB Thread (Oct 2016 - Feb 2017)

Yeah, my thing currently is, how many backup options do they have in play now? The thought was that if Dozier fell, then they move on to the next one and then the next one. The deal literally dies today, they immediately sign Kenley and DFA Johnson. That says to me that they really may not have any irons on the fire at this moment. This is no longer the time of year where you can take a couple weeks to put things together as we are now a month away from when players come into camp. I see all these "potential options", but when you dive into it, there really aren't many options left as we went from the time of year where teams say, "man we are fucked" to "hey.... you know we may have a shot at this division" so deals are harder to come by. I hope I am wrong, but I think that the Twins may have fucked us somewhat by taking so long to make a decision.

Also, this also showed that the Dodgers were not offering a one for one deal, they were offering the Twins two players at least off of the 40 man roster.

 

I like their creativity and the way they pull other teams into the mix when they need too, makes for a lot of possibilities.
I do wonder if they tried that with the Twins
Twins' GM/Levine actually worked for the Dodgers back in the day and is a friend of DePodesta, so there may be some " I don't wanna give in to LAD! " here too Lol
Or at least to make it tough

 

Oh I'd bet they were all in w/the Twins on trying to make it happen.
You sit at the negotiating table for that long..lots of listening and trying to make it work because the players involved really don't deserve any less..both Dozier and JDL are great guys and trade rumors can be a bummer.
But before you dip your toe back into the water to see what's what on the market..now that everybody knows LAD/MIN/Dozier is off ( at least for now), LAD could maybe come off desperate to attack the market right away w/o tending to their own business 1st.
My guess would be that we won't hear of any truly legit talks w/other teams for at least a week or two, maybe wanna let that thirst die down a bit and then hit it.
I imagine a shit storm of rumors about other options are on deck tho.

Possibly our grocery bagger/corner OF

 

I doubt the Twins fucked us, as I hope the Dodgers have already been in talks with other teams. It could be that other trade ideas only have us dealing one 40-man player. It could also be that the FO isn't comfortable with what teams are asking for any 2B options (which could explain why they stayed in on Dozier so long) and they are just going to start the season with a question mark.

 

Yeah, possibly and the re-approach isn't always as cut and dry because these other teams more than likely aren't just sitting around waiting on the Dodgers.
They have operations going on, things sometimes change.
I know irish had a little comic strip that said " well..things have changed since we last talked "..it's not all that funny when LAD is the team picking up the phone to make the call. Lol

Damn, lets hope that's not the case.
Didn't even think about that possibility

 

I'd rather start JDL in AAA/pitch him out of the pen than trade him for Forsythe and Colome, those guys aren't good enough for him. Forsythe is a two win 2B. He better cost a lot less than a guy who just hit 45 dingers with two years of cheap team control.

 

I don't wanna trade JDL for Forsythe/Colome either.
But Forsythe is closer to being a 4 win 2B than a 2 win 2B
Missed 30 something games this year and still almost hit a 3 WAR

 

This is probably the situation now and it all stems to the motherfucking Nationals... for the second year in a row, a team makes a widely panned trade that completely destroys the trade market and makes our FO less interested in making a deal that would help the team now, but obviously hurt down the road. I really see the Padres as the best option right now and you just know that they won't trade for cheap... not to mention our FO's apparently hate each other.

 

This is when Brian Dozier needs to " become disgruntled ", so that the Twins have an out - on why they eventually accepted LAD's offer.
Collusion, but a worthy purchase..who wouldn't buy that Dozier's a little peeved behind the scenes that LA/Dodgers were dangled in front of him and instead he's gonna stay a shitty Twin Lol
Fan favorite there, though, so he probably wouldn't go for it or budge on the " I'm happy here " BS

 

He has come out a couple times and said he does not want to be traded. He said he would do what is best for the organization, but he has no interest in leaving. He supposed to be one of the best clubhouse guys in baseball.

 

Yeah I saw that lip service.
Lie detector..put him on it.
No way he enjoys getting his ass whooped in the blistering cold that much

 

I want Dozier

I hope the Twins get contracted from MLB.

 

Shit happens. Let's hope JDL makes them regret it and battles it out with Maeda for the #3 slot in a year.

 

Dude throws strikes.. and has swing and miss stuff. His breaking ball is the wild card for me. If he can throw that pitch for strikes and get RH hitters out with it.. he will be very good.

What I noticed in his MLB outings was that he threw the BB so little that he was basically a two pitch pitcher.. he did K a lot of guys...padres tho..

Dozier would have been a nice player for us in our lineup.. but I'm glad we hung onto JDL..

 

Blistering cold? Ass whooped, sure. But blistering cold in the summer?

 

" Every exec knows not to believe everything every exec says because we know one another. " - Bill James

So it's just widely accepted that MFs will blow smoke up your ass..you just have to know better..part of the game.



Also today on MLB Now from Bill James - " Peak years for players used to be thought of in the 28-32yr old range. Post steroid era the peak years have returned to 26-28. It's a young man's game. "

 

Twins signed Vogelsong and Tepesch to minor league deals, an extreme reach on my part but is this a sign of moving on from us?

 

Gets pretty cold there in SEPT ( like down in the 30's sometimes) which is like the cherry on top of all these losing seasons, but maybe not blistering until after the season.
There's been occasions in April where Twins' fans are freezing their asses off too.
Either way, compared to LA there's no upside in the weather there, especially if he and his wife live there year round.
But here's a guy who says he's " a Christian playing baseball on the side ", so I don't expect to see any flare ups through the media.