For what it's worth, Cliff Lee >> Zack Greinke I'm really not sure how Zack has tricked everyone into thinking he's an ace. Outside of his Cy Young season he's had a somewhat average career. Cliff Lee, on the other hand, is post season nails.
fwiw... Poll: Will Cliff Lee Be Claimed On Waivers?By Ben Nicholson-Smith [August 3 at 8:05am CST]Cliff Lee is on waivers, so MLB teams must now decide whether to place a claim on the left-hander. For the majority of teams, the decision will be simple. Lee earns far too much for most general managers to make a claim and risk taking on his contract ($21.5MM in 2012, $25MM per season through 2015, and a $27.5MM vesting option for 2016 with a $12.5MM buyout). It’s complex enough for GMs to boost payroll by a few million with a summer acquisition, so a player with $95MM on his contract will be out of the question in most cases.But Lee could tempt a team or two. He continues to pitch effectively -- seven innings per start, five times as many strikeouts as walks and a 3.73 ERA in a so-called down year -- and there’s no better staring pitcher available. Maybe $95MM for three-plus seasons would be acceptable for a team with aggressive ownership, such as the Dodgers.If Lee does get claimed, the Phillies could pull him back off of waivers, work out a trade, or assign his contract to the team that wins the claim (the left-hander can block trades to 21 teams). If he goes unclaimed, the Phillies will be able to trade Lee with the same restrictions they’d encounter in July or in the offseason. How will it all unfold?
Cliff Lee is really, really expensive - but he might have the Maddux effect on the team - energizing everyone into an attitude of winning.
it seems we are valuing a lot of our young talent lets see what they can do before cockblocking them completely. i am all for getting the best players when it works but i really hope we don't become the yankees of the west because i have always thought of them as pretty soulless. maybe lee would be exactly what we need and maybe he would be an overpaid over the hill dick that fucks up the chemistry as it is. i would like to think there was a hard nosed no nonsense type of player to go after because thats what we need. not preening overpaid once great names. that just stinks up the place. not saying lee or ramirez are that type of player but they certainly could be. if webster is that good lets bring him up.
The Dodgers are gonna be signing a TV deal that could exceed $4 BILLION in the winter. This would be a drop in the bucket. Remember the A-Holes signed a $3 billion deal last winter that bought them Pujols and wilson for approximately $320M.
I understand all that but unless someone builds a floating walk bridge over FUCKFACE's parking lot it won't matter to me anyway!
Before the trade deadline, the Phillies made it clear that they would not pick up any of Cliff Lee’s salary in a trade and would also want prospects in return for the left-hander. ESPN.com’s Buster Olney suggests it’s highly unlikely Lee will be moved in a waiver deal this month.
last year, while still under the Mcmcdouche reign... Beware of the Ballpark Beer Scam April 4, 2011 Last Thursday, stadiums across the country opened their doors and baseball season started. With it comes the arrival of America's favorite pastime, game-day eats, and the ballpark beer scam. What is the beer scam? It's the stadium's way to make a quick buck on beer-guzzling fans. Many places offer three sizes of draft beer: small ($6), regular ($8), and large ($10). However, the ounces are not listed, and the average concession stand worker doesn't know how much beer they hold. After watching a video that clearly shows the small and regular sizes are almost identical — with the only difference being the shape of the glass — I decided to investigate and figure out what exactly is the distinction between these beer sizes. To find out, read more. I purchased each of the beers at Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles and sipped the regular, which comes in a tall glass, first. Then, I poured the small beer into the regular beer and discovered that it's almost the exact same size! Finally, I poured the large beer into the regular and found that it was bigger than the regular, but not by much. I took the glasses home and filled them with water to determine how much beer each holds. Ballpark Beer Chart Size_____Price___Cups___Ounces Small______$6____2.25_____18 Regular____$8____2.50_____20 Large_____$10____3.25_____26Although there is an eight-ounce difference between the small and the large, the best bang for your buck is the small. It's 18 ounces for $6, which is three ounces per dollar. Following this rate, for $8, you should get six more ounces of beer (to be 24 ounces) and for $10, you should get 12 more ounces of beer (to be 30 ounces). But that's not the case! Moral of the story: if you don't mind waiting in line, buy small beers.
Prospects in return? That's fucking stupid on their part. I'll give them James Loney and a pitcher of beer.
Yay, I'm glad someone actually wrote up an article about this. I've been doing this for a couple of years now. Back when I had a partial season ticket plan, I kept going to the same vendor. I bought a regular beer and asked him to pour it in the small cup, just to see if there was a substantial difference. He literally poured the entire beer in to the small cup no problem. I've been buying smalls ever since.
According to Wikipedia, teams have 3 business days to claim a player once they are put on waivers. Then 48 hours after that to work out a deal. It should also be noted that teams in the waiving team's league get waiver priority, so we would have priority over the Yankees or Rangers regardless of record.
this afternoon apparently... MLB executives say they don’t expect Cliff Lee to be claimed by this afternoon, the deadline for clubs to submit a waiver claim on the left-hander. However, one AL exec said someone might claim him since many teams are short on pitching. The Dodgers seem like the most likely candidate to claim Lee, according to the executives Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com surveyed.
^ Survey suggests chances for a Cliff Lee claim by today are slim but possibleBy Jon Heyman | Baseball InsiderAugust 3, 2012 12:32 pm ETAll but one of a half-dozen baseball executives surveyed Thursday and Friday suggested they believe the chances are slim that Cliff Lee is claimed by the Friday afternoon deadline -- though once A.L. exec, knowing how desperate teams are for a star starting pitcher, said, "I think (someone) might'' claim him.If he should be claimed -- and yet another A.L. exec estmiated the chances at 25 percent -- the next question would be whether the Phillies would consider letting Lee and the $95 million or so that remains on his contract through 2015 go for no compensation."I think they should (let him go),'' said another A.L. exec. "But I think that might be a tough sell in that market, so I don't know.''Several of the excutives speculated that if anyone does claim Lee -- who is 2-6 with a 3.73 ERA -- it could be the Dodgers. The Dodgers were looking for one more pitcher at the deadline (they came up short on Ryan Dempster), and everyone knows they aren't poor."They're the only team that could,'' a third A.L. exec said.The new Dodgers owners approved taking the full of $38 million left on Hanley Ramirez's contract and the signing of the rarely-scouted Cuban outfielder Yasiel Puig for $42 million. But this is a much bigger risk.Lee is to make $25 million a year from 2013 to 2015 and has a buyout of a whopping $12.5 million on the club's 2016 option.Lee was put on waivers Wednesday, so his period expires today. If he is claimed, the Phillies can decide to let him (and his contract) go or try to negotiate a trade. they also could pull him back and keep him even if he is claimed.Lee has some control, too, as he has a 21-team no-trade list. So he could veto a trade or claim by any of those 21 teams.