Braun Suspension Overturned

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  1. BlueMouse

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    hahahaha, good shit. I want a t-shirt of that
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    okay
    but you'll have to trade this one in...

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    btw this is nothing similar to some kind of court case like oj or casey anthony
    completely different type of situation
    its easy to see how and why those court cases turned out the way they did
    everyone openly talks about why those people won their case
    but braun?

    no one can think of a reason why he is getting such a pass, other than the fact that he is well liked
    but that doesnt really hold up, lots of other well liked guys have faced suspensions
    why ryan braun though?
    why did some people know right off the bat that braun would be exonerated?
    deep down a lot of you already knew braun would be exonerated as well
    maybe you cant understand why that is?
    but for some reason people knew that bud selig was never going to really go through with a 50 game suspension on ryan braun
    no way
     
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    bad analogy
    or lack thereof
    braun may have cheated
    but he didn't kill anyone
     
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    i could give a rats ass about his 'cheating'
    geez people you would think some of you were fucking these dudes or something
    they just ball players trying to get an edge, they arent committing any crime here
     
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    When you establish procedures and codify them and don't follow them it is your own fault when someone appeals and you lose. MLB has this all on them. They came up with strict guidelines how the sample should be handled and didn't follow them.
     
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    i dont know what braun took. rumor has it he has a STD

    but this has happened before and there was no news because it wasnt leaked. testing isnt right all the time

    it's why one night manny was playing, and the next morning he's suspended 50 games. he took the test long before, appealed it, and lost the appeal. it wasnt leaked and neither should this have been leaked

    if you fail and lose an appeal, then it's news. if you fail and win an appeal, no one should know about it
     
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    an edge is one thing
    an unfair advantage is whole other thing altogether
    think anybody respects these self-serving guys who cheated?
    no
    they've forever altered and damaged the integrity of the game
    roger maris should still be the single season hr leader
    and henry aaron should still be the all-time hr leader

    and
    for the record
    controlled substances are illegal when not prescribed by a doctor
    if that's what braun did
    he not only cheated, he broke the law
    then again
    since you don't give a rats ass about his cheating
    i'm sure laws and ethics don't matter to you either
     
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    You're telling me that an arbitrator whos name we are all going to forget in 5 minutes voted for Braun because he thinks hes a good guy? And that the 14 other guys that got suspended were just losers?

    He is not "getting a pass" ... His lawyers fought a good case, some dipshit ruined the process and fucked this whole thing up. Lawyers are smart dudes, they fought a great case and that's that. And for what its worth, Braun is not a good guy. Hell of a player, but the guy is an extremely cocky douchebag. Nothing against him, cause he backs it up, but it's not like we're talking about Jamey Caroll here.
     
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    Actually, Ruven is saying he thinks this is a conspiracy. He thinks Bud Selig doesn't want a Brewer and the NL MVP being soiled with a charge of steroid use, so he paid off the arbitrator to vote in Braun's favor so that MLB could vote against Braun. That way Braun is cleared but MLB looks like they have a hard stance on steroid use. Probably would have never needed to do that if the steroid news hadn't leaked, like how they keep Pujols' usage under wraps.

    Honestly, I'm not a big fan of conspiracy theories, but hard not to find some substance to this. The past 20 years has shown that Selig can look the other way when it comes to steroid use, and the fact that he still has a job proves he is capable of other shady dealings.

    I don't agree 100% with Ruven's theory. I'd like to see more details (like why the arbitrated ruled the way he did, etc...). But something doesn't smell right.
     
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    This very attitude is why people like Braun get away with shit like this. Hypocrisy Rules, in many world's evidently.
    What fucking bullshit. Nauseating.
     
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    People around baseball, Jimmy Rollins for one, say they know of other players failing drug tests and then winning appeals, the stories were just never leaked so we didn't hear about them. So it seems this isn't the first time someone won an appeal for something like this, it's just the first we're hearing of it.
     
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    Ryan Braun and his lawyers made a joke of the system. To say Selig wanted Braun to be innocent at the price of making his system look very stupid cause of a technicality is a bit crazy

    There's nothing complex about this, MLB voted against Braun cause they felt it was a non issue for that guy to have piss in his fridge, but the arbitrator agreed that a flaw in the process is enough to say you can't guilt Braun... There's no big PR move behind this, and it's just brauns lawyers being smart and some loser being stupid
     
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    Information like that kinda shoots down conspiracy theories.
     
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    riiiight
     
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    Message to be learned from all of this. Always have the best lawyer in the court room, second best could get you in trouble.
     
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    MLB is pissed about the suspension being overturned not because Braun got off but because it is now on the record from this day forth that they SCREWED UP! Yes Bud and the boys are capable of a royal screw up! Wait late breaking news, Dodger fans already know this! Now who is our next owner Bud?
     
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    exactly my point
    like the folks mad at muslims for overunning france or similarly here in america with mexicans
    they are barking up the wrong tree
    the problem they have is not the muslims nor the mexican people
    its with their own governments and corporations who collude into allowing and sometimes even encouraging illegal immigration because it suits their wallets and it suits a lot of other cultural needs as well
    but then they write laws against immigration, and they demagogue against immigration on TV and you guys think they are against immigration
    when of course they arent
    its obvious
    we are the strongest military in the world... yet we cant secure our very open and unobstructed easy to defend borders or our ports
    instead we sell our ports to temporary 'allied' countries from a foreign culture, our borders with government sanctioned drug traffickers, and our airports to nearly brainless drones not paid enough to use up what little common sense they might have

    yet most of us go along with the belief that our government is doing its job of securing our homeland... which btw is its only real job
    and it does such a shitty job at it that its clear how low it is in the list of priorities

    but we believe this shit

    so if we are conditioned into having to accept such lies and many many larger and more pervasive ones... how are we not to be confused when professional forked tongues like bud selig and frank mccourt are put in front of us?
    thats the game being played on everyone, and its played because it works

    you guys can come up with the answers, they are all there... just stop accepting the spin that surrounds the facts
    ill give you another thread to pull at using what you just posted

    if Bud Selig established and codified anti doping rules
    and he is the one who determines how they are to be applied
    and they are always applied with extreme care
    and when this particular player is caught we find that the testing was not applied correctly
    so therefore the rules no longer are applicable to that subject

    are we to believe that the failure of the system was a coincidence?
    why would Bud Seligs labs all of a sudden get careless?
    why do southern politicians rail against immigrants while they are supported and support the beef and other industries that employ the majority of illegal immigrants?
    its goes a step beyond hypocrisy when everyone else accepts the hypocrisy as normalcy... i dont know what you call that
    america maybe?
     

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